Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 137. (Read 845582 times)

What you said is religion, not science. Therefore it has nothing to do with this topic.

BADecker and Przemax will not engage seriously with any argument, their opinions about the honesty and truth of the Bible are not subject to change, but the wise know that you should never believe in anything "too much".
Astargath, your opinions about the parapsychology research I presented are also not subject to change, so you are not a true skeptic either

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Cute response that has nothing to do with what I said. I guess you ran out of retarded arguments to defend the evil god that you worship which is also non existent

It's easy to tell that the godless are all mixed up.

Why do you use manipulation here? Does your wisdom of the heart tell you that its ok to manipulate people?

Yeah my wisdom of heart tell me:

"15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.16By their fruit you will recognize them."

Your fruits are manipulation. No sincere man would do that. You manipulate meaning of words. You manipulate Causes and effect. You tell half lies, you use moral terror, you use false dichotomy, you claim being a victim, etc etc.

Yes. Reformation church doctrine was, that every man have to read and choose for their own, what they think about the Bible. So why do you assume that every reformation agent should believe that Bible is bad? Maybe some believe in their wisdom of heart that it is not?

You are knocking to the wrong door. Your "doctrine" was aimed to catholics thats why my assumptions that you are being led by French masonry (catholic country). You had proven that masonry is fake reformation.

Your point is - you will be a free thinking if you would accept OT and NT (almost) are bad. You just contradicted yourself. The truth is - someone would be a free thinker, if he would think on his own.


You have to decide. If Paul corrupted the evil NT that would mean he made it correct. Or if NT was not bad, which would mean you contradict yourself(again). And if NT is good and is based on OT is OT bad? Correct answer would be that Jesus has purified the meaning of OT and its no longer controversial. Thats why satanists and pharisee of today hate him so much. They have to invent so many stupid doctrines to hide that fact.

I doubt that you will understand my process of thinking. But there could be only one non-contradictory statement about you. You are a cryptocatholic. You both hate bible, because Bible tells truth about both of you, that you would like to hide. Catholic strongly discourage from reading OT. And softly discourage from reading NT. What they mostly read on their masses are talking about money and going to church, prefferably going to church to give them money.

No. Trinity was invented by Catholic church in 4th century. You again want to fake a reformation movement. You want to make a fake divide. Catholics vs fake reformation. Its the two sides of the same coin.

And yes catholic church abuses the words of Paul. Possibly Paul makes his own interpretation. But a true bible scholar takes into account 2 or 3 witnesses to truely believe something. Paul sometimes tells something what he thinks something is and sometimes he tells like he is inspired.

Yes, corruption started from the weakest link in the fence - Paul. That does not mean we should condamn the works of Paul all together. He was a victim taken hostage spiritualy imho. But you contradict yourself. You tell people to not listen to catholic church while in other hand you gave them your own interpretation. Im not sure if you are kidding, dishonest or a hipocrite.

Again. Yes. Everyone should read their Bible and make up their own minds. WIthout assumptions its good or bad.

Honest read of the Bible - what you discourage, would make obvious that you AND catholic church are frauds that claims to be christians while being wolfs.

"15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."

The Trinity was an invention of Paul, and
the Bible is evil because there is consistent suffering of innocent people brought about by YHWH,
 in the NT the epistles of Paul are presented as though they relate the teaching of Jesus
 when in fact Paul corrupted his teachings,
not to mention the factual errors in the text of the OT (check the evilbible site).

The Sermon on the Mount is thought to be an authentic teaching of Jesus but it makes no mention of a triune God or Jesus Salvation; I can tell that most fundamentalist Christians simply believe in the truth of certain parts of their Bible without further investigation of this or other texts.

Why do fundamentalist Christians deny the wisdom of the heart when they choose to accept the evil behavior of YHWH throughout the OT? The moral principle that the innocent should not suffer is lost on some believers.

All you are doing is showing that science is a religion for you.     

God himself commanded to kill people for working on the sabbath, god himself let this evil laws happen, god himself killed everyone with the flood because, what? He was mad? A god that gets mad or is it that he failed, a god that fails. It's all bullshit man, can't you see how stupid the stories are? There is no logic to them.

Yes. And it is a real shame for them. When they come to a tragic emergency, they won't have anything to fall back on for help except terror. I feel for them. But I don't overwhelm myself with these feelings, because they asked for it, and wouldn't even look at the truth when shown.

They do not even know the difference between acknowledgement of evil, and perpetuation of evil.

They would rather keep their little words and little save zones to save them from knowing how this world is fucked.

Their religion of progress. We are chocking on almost an economical disaster and those ... "people" are still believing its all gets better...

Their little silly meaningless word games. So small......

Do I really have to say this again, just to help you think? My point is listed in my post you quoted.

What do you do? Do you simply see that it is a post of mine, and then reply with some stupidity?

Be that as it may, it's okay. There are plenty of funny farms just waiting for you when you wake up some morning slobbering gibberish. It won't be far away, since you are almost doing that right now.

No I do not defend anything neither does Bible. Bible just defended slaves from abuse. Its just a law. You know what is a law doesn't you? Law is neutral. Law is not a manual or instruction.


No I have not say that. Its the people that should be protected against propaganda of LGBTQ.


God is only against abuse, and generally against evil. Do you think current world is just and good? If you think it is... All I can say is that you are an evil man. Only an evil man would not see a radical abuse of people and wrong doings in nowaday world.


No point in talking with liberal propaganda brainwashed people that think that gay rights and abandoning slavery makes us live in paradise.


If you think that someone that has mortgage debt for 20 years (yet he have no house because it was already sold to the bank), and barely have any money for food and have no money to pay his bills, is not a slave I would say you are completly deluded by the liberal media. There are a lot of wage slaves in modern world with no guarantees or protection from abuse.

Slaves are slaves. God has not stated that there should be any slaves. But if they are the weakest in this case the poorest should be protected by law.


You started to talk about slavery... Its your passion. I had not even stated that a single once. But if you think that nowadays you dont have a way worse sittuation than slavery I suggest you should try harder to look around you. Maybe you do not see many unhappy people because the suicide rates are skyroketing. You will be happy because you would not see misery, and yet they are DEAD. Your paradise world KILLED them. You will not see misery and suffering caused by the usury and completly corrupt world.

But good luck in your dream world of human made paradise.

What's your point? God couldn't think of anything better than slavery? Give me a break badecker, you guys are defending the indefensible

Poverty is worse than slavery.

The 14th Amendment in the USA is the thing that changed blacks into slaves of the US Government. And if you have a birth certificate, you are a 14th Amendment slave, as well. If you think you are not, try being free and smoking some pot in public, in an area where the narcs and cops are watching you, knowing what you are doing.

Smoking pot is something that could freely be done in America before the Constitution, and before the 14th Amendment.

How cute if we change the actual words used in the bible to other words totally, then slavery = "amazing social security"

Equating slaves to workers and slavery to amazing social security, that's a new one.  It's kind of sickening. Lastly I think the KKK might like to hire you as a PR spokes person...

Oh well, Im ignoring you from this post on. Your delusion doesn't let you see clearly. You even defend slavery lmao. You think it's ok for god to kill gay people and it's also ok to have slaves because it's social security. There was definitely not a better way for a fucking God to do things. Your mental illness is so strong that you would go to any length to defend the bible even if it means saying killing gays is ok because they ''mock'' god and slavery is also ok. No point in talking to mentally ill people. Bye. Good luck in real life with those retarded beliefs. Go spread the word about slavery, you should be the president and insist that slavery is actually ok. See how people reacts. Do not even waste your time talking back to me.

He won't stop. He is trying to make you his slave.   

If you think this passage is not helping people with a grave problems that have to ask for help others to help them you are just wicked.... Thats all I have to say.

Thats called slaves but if you could read with understanding and read that passage of slaves as workers, you would see thats amazing social security for workers.

You have a care for your children. Your children can have security in a wealthy family etc etc. Only the wicked people like you would think adopted children would be abused. If they would not want their children to be adopted they can always go and have their children somewhere else. Thats like a workers contract.

Especially the last paragraph. That master cannot throw a homeless guy to the street.

That kind of job security with another passages of fair pay for work in the Bible greatly surpass almost any job security laws we have today. Noone cares about the debters, homelessness joblessness. Here you have all things covered.

If that system of worker security surpases those of today, what can we say about how it was superiour to that times. It was wastly more moral then any other country at that time.

Could you stop using abusive language towards me?

First of all, there shouldn't be any slaves.

 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
Children of the slaves are not slaves.

It clearly says that that if the master gives the slave a wife then the wife and sons will be the master's slaves forever lmao and the slave can only get away by himself, abandoning his family. YES THATS FUCKING EVIL YOU RETARD.