Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 175. (Read 845809 times)

The fact that intelligence, the mind, the spirit and emotions are as complex as they are, shows that God had to be even more complex to have been able to make them. That's part of why we call Him "God."

Being that you jokers are so interested in God all of a sudden, look Him up in the dictionaries and encyclopedias. Or study the Bible.

As with many things in science, the scientific proof for God proves that He exists, without showing a lot of other info about Him.

What's the matter? Can't do your own research? If you spent half the time researching, that you spend writing nonsense posts, you could find out a lot about Him.

But it seems to me that even from a scientific point of view, there is some power that I made it, what happened on our planet, founded. Even the very explosion, because of which the whole process of life began, also passed from some strength. Each person calls this force in different ways, including someone who calls him God.

Rip the definition of God, badecker can't even define what he is trying to prove scientifically ROFL. Badecker: Scientifically speaking, I don't know what the Creator really is. haha

You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.    

EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.

Badecker: Scientifically speaking, I don't know what the Creator really is.
Badecker: At the same time, cause and effect, entropy, and complexity point towards that "Something" that we can't fathom, as being the Creator.

So you still avoid the definition I see.

XinXan and HWW both believe that by talking religion they will be able to disprove science. So, that's what they have done... above. Yet, they don't have any rebuttal for the scientific proof that God exists, except political science. Political science says that if you talk long enough, people will believe you, even if you are wrong about what you are saying.

God and the scientific proof that He exists stand, with or without any rebuttal they might think that they have.



EDIT: Btw, XinXan. Thanks for placing me in the position of authority for describing God. Anybody can Google "What is God?" But you are setting me up as authority higher than Google responses. Thank you for that honor.

Our subject test, badecker, believes in god, the christian god. He claims there is scientific proof for it yet he never actually posts any evidence that leads to think that the real god is the christian god, he just believes it. He doesn't believe in evolution, of course, that would require some scientific understanding of the world, something that badecker doesn't have. He doesn't believe that the earth is flat, this is a surprise because you would expect an idiot like badecker to believe in any stupid shit but he doesn't. However he does have a thread called, US cops are worse than ISIS which is just fucking retarded, again, expected from badecker.

List of beliefs by badecker:

Believes in God
Believes that cops are worse than ISIS
Believes the earth is only 6000 years old (rofl)
Believes humans and dinosaurs lived together (rofl)
Believes a God watches you masturbate
Believes that all languages originated thanks to the babel tower (rofl)

And I'm still waiting for that definition of God, badecker, I asked you like 10 times, you seem to ignore it.

Interlude:
Of course, our small idiot will never be able to surpass his stupidity, he actually believes he is so important that someone would follow to see when he is online. He believes himself to be a small God. He also believes people were healthier before and they could all be inbred. They could, but they were not healthy and neither were the off springs...it's just a science thing, we can't expect Badecker to understand it. He always says about anyone who actually knows a bit of science that they do 'religious talk', he does not believe in the Big Bang...and then he goes telling stats science isn't a believing matter. A religious apologist who believes God exists because cause and effect exists says science is not  believing matter. Not that he wouldn't be right, science really isn't a believing matter, it's just the irony of it all: he only makes false assumptions (he believes stuff) while he knows science is not about that. Understanding of knowledge? This guy does not even understand in what he believes anymore. That is indeed mental illness with a shit ton of stupidity. Stick around for episode 21!

It's not that other people don't believe. It's like you... don't understand. Science isn't a believing matter. It is an understanding of knowledge matter.

Why do you look like your parents? Some nations come from a single family, and the children match that family line.

Entropy shows us that complexity is declining. In other words, there is devolution rather than evolution. Thousands of years ago people were healthy enough that they could safely have offspring from brothers and sisters getting together.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

You still posting your links.

Have you ever asked yourself why noone else posts your links? Its because they prove nothing.

You are the only one who believes them.

That is why i laugh at you.

In the first place, HWW doesn't really have any points.

In the second place, whatever it is that he has is simply "bash BADecker" stuff... not worth answering.

In the third place, most of what he says is religion oriented, and off topic in this thread.

And if your off-topic, bash BADecker, religious stuff was as long as his, I wouldn't answer it either.

So in that case how come there are black people and chinese people and white people ?
Also that raises the question about there children (they have to have sex with each other or with there father/mother)......

notice here that our good buddy BADecker did not address a single one of horace's points in episode 21.
i wonder why?
he just posted a big ole LOL and
for the 60 billionth time his merry go round boilerplate  links. (that no one in this thread bothers to click on anymore)
Well what a surprise!  (ZZZZZZZZZZZZ)
ok folks  DRINK!!!  (BURP)

LOL!

Did you write that before my last comment? Or did you start it as soon as you saw I was online?

The scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, when combined, not only prove that God exists, but also prove that there is no other way. Check out the summaries here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380,
and then research it to see for yourself.

HWW, your humor is simply too much

Episode 21: 'Chaos and randomness inside the mind of a retard named...you know the name'
Ever won an argument with a decent, intelligent human being? Things change, the argument changes from his side, he thinks about it, even if he still sustains his idea, his argumentation will take new thinks into consideration. Try the same with dumb, stupid, idiotic people and it will go like this: no matter how evident your argument is, his argument will always stay the same. He can never realize the fallacy in his thinking so he will always believe he is right, never researching further. That is what is happening with our small retard, Badecker. His answers have a randomness, many times he does not answer to what you said but to what crosses his useless mind. But no matter how random his answer is, he will always keep claiming the same stupid shit, over and over again. For him, the big bang is not real. He can't really understand that the Big Bang has been scientifically observed, its traces have been seen, they completely match the theory. He does not understand that there was first a theory and a prediction of what they would find and they found exactly the same thing the theory contained (Background Radiation). He does not understand the Big Bang was not a myth (as Gods are), it was properly defined, it obeys scientific laws, it is completely understandable and it has already been reproduced, on a very small scale. He somehow surpasses all of the facts in favor of his brainwashing fairy tale. He can not understand logic and he does not realize that cause and effect can not be a definite law since some things may except from the rule (radioactive decay, the big bang itself) because a cause has not yet been found, which turns cause and effect into an imperfect rule. He does not understand complexity, neither entropy and we can tell that just by the very own fact that he calls them 'scientific laws'. He does not understand that a God could not be proven based on the fact that cause and effect, entropy and complexity exist since all of these might (and might is the right term because of the exceptions) lead to the existence of a cause of the beginning, one that is undefined and unseen at the moment. He does not understand that because of our understanding of this universe (an understanding that works, it gets things going) science never mentions God as a possible first cause since there are an infinite more probable causes than this one. He does not understand that all religions have the same 'characteristics' of the Creator, they differ on the stories an are all man made and 90% they are historically erroneous which makes it all to seem a 'forgery' from the beginning. He does not understand that the age of our universe is an approximation, a very close one, not a theory and that it is a fact because the proofs have already been made, observations were clear, research was strongly done. All that Badecker can think of is that whatever the circumstances, God exists. No matter how hard the evidence would be, he would believe the same. That is a mental illness and a huge level of stupidity. The funny thing, the one that makes us not give a flying spit on his ideas, is that he doesn't even understand that he is stupid. Stay tuned for more, the chaotic retard will most surely come back with some new package for his own shit.

You are forgetting one major thing here. God isn't necessarily part of everything. Everything includes this universe. If God has made Himself partially part of this universe, God still isn't included in everything, because He is outside of this universe, as well.

This is my God, the real God, as proven by the scientific laws/principles of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, combined.

Still not defining god. Still no evidence that proves anything you say points to your specific God. I can agree with everything you said and it still doesn't show God exists. The precursor has to be more complex but it doesn't have to be God. If it is God, who is the precursor of god then? Same argument over and over again. Self refuting arguments that you keep using.

-Everything has a cause (then you would say but god doesnt have a cause but you just said everything has a cause but god doesn't have a cause....)
-Everything that is complex requires a more complex precursor (then you would say god doesn't but you just said everything does....)
Loop arguments and none of them point to a specific God. You keep avoiding the question. Where is the evidence that shows your specific God is the real God.

So you don't have much scientific understanding about complexity. Look above at what I said about it.

We have no evidence in the universe of complexity coming about without something more complex being its precursor.

The fact that you want me to "stop it" shows that you are irritated because you don't have an answer to the things that I am showing you. Why are you so against reality? What changes in your life if you realize God is real? You still go on living just like you always have. The only thing that you might achieve is peace if you come to be on God's side rather than against Him.