Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 177. (Read 845809 times)

The proof, my friend, is the ultimatum, the last thing asked in order to establish the existence. The problem starts way before than proof. First of all, people start to sense something fake, a forgery, something man made, the stories behind all of the Gods are flawed, make no sense in reality, they take effect in a fiction writing. People understand that so they start to ask questions, they begin to research, they see how those writings, the only testimonials of Gods, are incompatible with the truth of our world, are not sustained by history, logic, physics, biology, cosmology, etc. The more they search, the less they believe because religion has always based it's power on the lack of knowledge. In the end, they all reach to the same conclusion: you can be as religious as you want, you can have faith, but keep it for yourself. If you claim that the world should acknowledge your God as a general truth, children must be baptized, people who marry must go to church, funerals must be attended by priests, religion must be taught in school, etc, then you must prove that your God exists and you have to do it categorically. So instead of blaming the scientists who actually do something instead of just praying for your soul who might exist or not and also get paid for it, you should start learning, research, appeal to common sense and reason and most important of all, don't start already set with the idea that God definitely exists. I don't expect you to leave your faith, I understand how impossible it is for you to conceive the fact that God might not exist at all, most people know for sure that smoking does really much harm to your health and they still smoke, it's a vice. Religion is worse than a vice, it is so widely spread that it is really hard to escape the simulacra. But that doesn't mean you have to preach your religion just because you believe it's the truth. It's not and as long as we have understanding for you and we don't even think about banning your 'thoughts' you should also have the understanding and keep it for yourself and the ones like you.

Nope. That's actually God. The retard calls everything God, he never even described what God really is. He said his God is the God from the bible which can't be the fucking big bang because that's not what the bible says, therefore he is contradicting himself again with this non sense. He doesn't even know how to make any sense of what he says, it's pretty sad to be honest.

So going on BADecker's principle which is based on assumptions and not fact..... this is a banana.



It's yellow, and bent with folded down sides and it looks look a banana...... therefore it must be a banana.

NO dipshit.... it's a dog wearing a banana outfit.

there are so many reason to believe in god, scientist don't even know where the life is begin with, so better to make our own research to make sure that there is a really god, i believe in god, but some people don't cause they are saying that they have nothing to proof it.

fuck god

Episode 19: 'In deeper shit'
It has been a while, things cooled off and now Badecker, the retarded apologist went out of his lair not being afraid of his shadow anymore. He can eat shit again without the fear that everyone will laugh at him for debunking his own theory. He is happy and he has new answers...or not. Somehow he fails to see the great error in his mind, we don;t know why, but we've seen people speculate it might be mental illness...it probably is. What Badecker can't realize is that his mind is infected with the religious propaganda, his whole universe starts with the idea 'God exists', he can never take it out of the picture, not even in an imaginary way, because religion has always set its foot when talking about God: jokes were punished, the simple idea of not believing would have got you killed, mocking a God would have got you killed, etc. That is why the idea remained, it imposed itself through terror, and through generations it remained with it's laws but the terror is not needed anymore, because the world is infected properly in such a way that  very precise, time expensive surgery is needed to ever get out. It has been said before and it is a good comparison: religion is a North Korea dictatorship. Of course any idiot infected will say 'If Big Bang exists it must be God' because any answer is God for him, he can't think of anything else but God. In North Korea, everything is about the dictator, you think about him, not anything else in the world. Can this lead to a mental illness? Of course it can, it has all the possibilities of developing severe mental illnesses, but first of all, it's a mental delusion, a simulacra, it derives the 'believer' from reality and it makes him live in the simulation of a world that, he hopes, will never end because eternal life will be his reward for only 'believing' the lie. Yes lads, the shit goes deeper. Badecker might be mentally ill. We'll wait here for more so we can come with episode 20.

350 pages and still no proof.  lol

You are not being logical. I don't generally us science fiction quotes, but Spock says it well in Star Trek (2009): "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth."

The point is that, because of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, even if big bang were fact, then big bang would be God. As it is, we don't know if BB is fact, but the three scientific laws and principles existing together as they do, point to a something which fits what God must be.

God exists, even though we don't know much about Him from science. The fact that He exists is a scientific fact, as well as an observational understanding... from simply observing the world.

Now that we can all see it again, why not understand it?

Badecker also shows that cause and effect doesn't prove God existence. Then he proceeds to say that the rest of his argument doesn't prove God either because it points to ''something'' but we can't really know what that something is and then he admits he believes in God from the bible purely on faith. Then he goes full retard or maybe he has double personality and keeps posting the same links that he said didn't prove God because nothing can really prove God and he is trying now to deny that he said it. Why? It's right here, we can all see it, we can see what he wrote, why would he try to deny it now? Is there an explanation besides him being mentally ill?

See? Even the devil knows that God exists. And he is way more scientifically capable than the rest of us.

 

                     

Romans 1:20:
Since Saint Paul shows the logical reason for understanding the existence of God, in this and other passages, why wouldn't there be scientific proof, as well?

I think it is simply incompatible to talk about scientific proof and the existence of god (if the god that you mean here is the god to whom we say prayers) at the same time. When the Higgs boson was discovered, it was touted as the "God particle." But it does not actually have anything to do with the religious god. In the same manner that when Einstein believed that there must be a god out there, he did not mean any religious god at all.

It is because the god in any religion does not have any place in science. And science, on the other hand, cannot prove anything about the existence of a god. 

Interlude: 'The dream still stays on'
We've seen what we can call 'The end pf Badecker' these days, when he himself debunked his own theory that God created the Universe. Of course, it was foolish of him to let that out and now he is trying to 'repair' his mistake by saying he meant something else, going around the subject, etc. His classical method of deflecting the attention off his mistakes is blaming everyone of involving religion into a scientific subject. The hurtful truth for him, and those like him, is that the subject is of a religious matter, it has a religious motif (God) and it follows the religious story of a certain God. Yes, he claims to 'scientifically' prove the existence of God, but the 'scientific' research is in the domain of religion, so anyone who involves religion in the discussion has all the reasons to do so. Even more, almost all of the religious questions asked here are on subject and are reasonable, they should be answered in order to clarify some 'scientific' claims that bare no proof but assumptions. Badecker can't or won't understand that and he is stuck in his own little loop of mental errors, he is stuck on his same old debunked and pseudo scientific links that nobody cares for anymore. That is why, as we are gathering proof here, we can conclude again that he is indeed really stupid and stubborn in his stupidity. More to come, hang around folks.

Save your time, he already showed he is mentally ill. He debunks himself and says we don't know what the creator is and the next post he keeps talking about how science shows the creator is God. I suggest you to read this, badecker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Science.... yes  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19350390

Your pseudo science bullshit..... Pffffff

What does Ken Ham have to do with scientific proof that God exists?

I had thought that within the Bitcointalk forum there would be a few people who understood the difference between science and religion. But here you are, another one focusing on religion rather than science.

Don't any of you jokers know even enough basic science that you can talk science rather than religion?

oh jeezus!!! i just had the best belly laugh i've had in years!
oh cmon now, aren't you like  totally flattered that you could be mistaken for the likes of that
god fearin, bible lovin, evolution/science denying, character KEN HAM!!!
Come on dude...he built the   Creation Museum! complete with dinosaurs and humans in the same time period and Noahs Ark and Adam and Eve!!... ROFLMFAO!!!

Your link says you dont know what it is.... and you dont have the ability to fathom what it is.

That my furry little friend means your assumption of it being your god is flawed. You yourself have stated you do not have the ability to know.

Thank you for showing your delusional and this is purely your attempt to make your assumptions as fact.

Better luck next time.

Just to show you how flawed your thinking is, the info your, above, link makes a distinction between knowing that God exits, and the fact that we don't really know what He is, even though we know that He exists.

Here you are, posting all kinds of stuff, and you can't even see that there is a difference between knowing that something exists, and not knowing what it is made out of.

However, thank you for your post. It shows how really ignorant you are. But your greatest ignorant part isn't simply being ignorant. Your true ignorance lies in the fact that you don't want to stop being ignorant.