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April 01, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
That argument will always come first, the health industry rejects it. If it is tested and researched and the health industry does reject it, can we see some proof of the rejection? Anything at all, please? Can you come with examples of the research on the power of prayer? Please come with more than arguments and you shall be trusted.

I already stated several times that prayer will not destroy a pathogen by itself, but I was able to see the results of the remote healing (pathogen cleanse) right away. Since Tom and I are the only ones conducting these experiments, it is probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea of remote healing.

It is far from probably correct to say that since numbers tell you it's probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea knowing it's pure bullshit and they prefer to recieve real specialised treatment. You are just being delusional.
Who can say for a fact that remote healing is pure B.S.? What is their evidence and does it weigh more than my true story of healing?
In the TV series "Supehumans" there is one man who demonstrated telekinesis, this proves that matter is a form of mind, this sort of idea is not mainstream, but the raw truth is never popular. Scalar energy for health is also not mainstream, but some tests seem to show that it is effective.

So I was deluded into receiving a fake treatment? I find that hard to believe because while being treated I did not need to apply the life saving microcurrent and felt no discomfort near my tooth, but since the treatment and also prior to that I have always felt discomfort.
I can only conclude that the disease was suppressed by the scalar energy, that is the sensible conclusion based on the extraordinary events that actually happened to me after submitting a photo of my hand. I can speak from experience while you cannot, so I am living in reality of perception, you are just prejudiced against anything that dares to check your own delusional belief system (B.S.), in fact you have not contributed any evidence to this thread, nor has any skeptic ever attempted to give this energy a fair test.
Can you please skip that fucking microcurrent shit? That claims to be anti aging, not to treat dental infections. Go and see a dentist, you delusional twat. Now, I've had a tooth infection a while ago, a really bad one with incredible pain. I only took a pain killer and did nothing. I didn't pray because I never pray, I just stood one day in bed and I said 'fuck you infection, you have nothing on me'. The day after that the infection was gone, I was fresh. So believe me that I have discovered and researched the power of not giving a fuck that might save lives and cure cancer. Do not even dare to say it's bullshit because I have experimented on myself. Now, this would mean 'delusional'. Recognising that in my story, my imunity system was healthy enough to fight back the infection (hence the fever) is not being delusional, but rational. But I have a feeling you won't understand that because you are simply delusional. It's hard to get out of that zone.
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April 01, 2017, 04:23:41 AM

Faith simulation is when someone attempts to believe that he has enough faith. Peter had enough faith as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

In any event, you have stated that God doesn't exist. Prove it by showing the vast knowledge that you have... knowledge that knows virtually every corner of the macrocosm and microcosm, plus all the dimensions, so that we all know that you have checked everything out to be certain that God isn't out there somewhere.

If you fail in this proof, then you are at least ignorant about your atheism, but are probably a liar. Why a liar? You are capable of realizing your lack of knowledge of some areas that God might exist in, and yet you say that God doesn't exist.

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First of all, I don't need to proove anything, I don't claim god exists. First prove his existence and then we will talk about him not existing. Science does not prove God's existence, in fact it proves there are some big holes in the story and from that point of view it all becomes a hoax. You can start with the 5000 claimed age and from that point of view God is already bullshit. Second of all, I have never claimed to be omnipotent and all knowing as your god does. Calling me a liar for failing to search for your god in every corner of the world as if he was playing hide and seek is plain reetarded and sais very much about your infantility. The funny fact is when given the full story of god, every religious man will know about the shit that is regarded as the writings, the bible. Most of the religious 'scientists' that had debates about the existence of god have come to a point in recognising the story is complete bullshit but people need faith, they need the teachings, etc. That, my friend, is a liar. A child that believes in Santa Claus is not a liar because he's been lied about it and doesn't know too much. A grown up man who went past that, found out the truth but still believes in Santa is a liar because knowing the story was a hoax, he still choosed to believe. If he wouldn't it would mean he was wrong, and some people really hate being wrong.
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April 01, 2017, 02:38:13 AM

BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.


Actually, you are talking about your own principle. I have shown the proof that God exists. You haven't shown rebuttal.

What about your videos? All they are is an elaborate way of suggesting that there is rebuttal, when they don't have any... same thing you have been doing for multitudes of posts, now.

So, welcome to the group of people who know God exists. Of course it is rather easy to His existence this when you look at nature.

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You haven't shown proof. You have shown an assumption. Big difference.

Because you can't prove god exists, you must be a liar.

Burden of proof little fella is for you to show some proof..... but you can't.
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April 01, 2017, 12:10:32 AM
That argument will always come first, the health industry rejects it. If it is tested and researched and the health industry does reject it, can we see some proof of the rejection? Anything at all, please? Can you come with examples of the research on the power of prayer? Please come with more than arguments and you shall be trusted.

I already stated several times that prayer will not destroy a pathogen by itself, but I was able to see the results of the remote healing (pathogen cleanse) right away. Since Tom and I are the only ones conducting these experiments, it is probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea of remote healing.

It is far from probably correct to say that since numbers tell you it's probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea knowing it's pure bullshit and they prefer to recieve real specialised treatment. You are just being delusional.
Who can say for a fact that remote healing is pure B.S.? What is their evidence and does it weigh more than my true story of healing?
In the TV series "Supehumans" there is one man who demonstrated telekinesis, this proves that matter is a form of mind, this sort of idea is not mainstream, but the raw truth is never popular. Scalar energy for health is also not mainstream, but some tests seem to show that it is effective.

So I was deluded into receiving a fake treatment? I find that hard to believe because while being treated I did not need to apply the life saving microcurrent and felt no discomfort near my tooth, but since the treatment and also prior to that I have always felt discomfort.
I can only conclude that the disease was suppressed by the scalar energy, that is the sensible conclusion based on the extraordinary events that actually happened to me after submitting a photo of my hand. I can speak from experience while you cannot, so I am living in reality of perception, you are just prejudiced against anything that dares to check your own delusional belief system (B.S.), in fact you have not contributed any evidence to this thread, nor has any skeptic ever attempted to give this energy a fair test.
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March 31, 2017, 08:50:41 PM

BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.


Actually, you are talking about your own principle. I have shown the proof that God exists. You haven't shown rebuttal.

What about your videos? All they are is an elaborate way of suggesting that there is rebuttal, when they don't have any... same thing you have been doing for multitudes of posts, now.

So, welcome to the group of people who know God exists. Of course it is rather easy to His existence this when you look at nature.

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March 31, 2017, 07:46:24 PM
Go ahead and tell that to that african priest who had too much faith in his powers of controling the nature and got killed by lions. Try it yourself, in fact. Go to the zoo, have faith in my words and jump into the lions cage. Don't be scared, have faith, and you will be able to control them. Come back with pictures, okay?

That isn't faith. It might be faith simulation, but it isn't faith. Of course, if it were faith, it would happen according to the "wishes" of the person who had the faith.

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That is faith. "Faith simulation" doesn't even make sense. That african priest did exactly as Peter supposedly initially did, walking on water(before he lost faith and started to sink). Either way it shows that either 1) The priest didn't have enough of this imaginary thing called faith, 2) God doesn't exist, obviously and hence he died in vain for believing in something that was never there to begin with.

Faith simulation is when someone attempts to believe that he has enough faith. Peter had enough faith as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

In any event, you have stated that God doesn't exist. Prove it by showing the vast knowledge that you have... knowledge that knows virtually every corner of the macrocosm and microcosm, plus all the dimensions, so that we all know that you have checked everything out to be certain that God isn't out there somewhere.

If you fail in this proof, then you are at least ignorant about your atheism, but are probably a liar. Why a liar? You are capable of realizing your lack of knowledge of some areas that God might exist in, and yet you say that God doesn't exist.

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BADecker principle rule number 1:
"If a point of discussion does not meet criteria of one's own belief, then ignore the context and claim it is wrong".

Therefore, your proof is wrong, so please give me proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCTEhezcYw  Burden of proof lies with those who claim god exists can be found here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   Answer to the first cause argument can be found here.
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March 31, 2017, 07:16:27 PM
Go ahead and tell that to that african priest who had too much faith in his powers of controling the nature and got killed by lions. Try it yourself, in fact. Go to the zoo, have faith in my words and jump into the lions cage. Don't be scared, have faith, and you will be able to control them. Come back with pictures, okay?

That isn't faith. It might be faith simulation, but it isn't faith. Of course, if it were faith, it would happen according to the "wishes" of the person who had the faith.

Cool

That is faith. "Faith simulation" doesn't even make sense. That african priest did exactly as Peter supposedly initially did, walking on water(before he lost faith and started to sink). Either way it shows that either 1) The priest didn't have enough of this imaginary thing called faith, 2) God doesn't exist, obviously and hence he died in vain for believing in something that was never there to begin with.

Faith simulation is when someone attempts to believe that he has enough faith. Peter had enough faith as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

In any event, you have stated that God doesn't exist. Prove it by showing the vast knowledge that you have... knowledge that knows virtually every corner of the macrocosm and microcosm, plus all the dimensions, so that we all know that you have checked everything out to be certain that God isn't out there somewhere.

If you fail in this proof, then you are at least ignorant about your atheism, but are probably a liar. Why a liar? You are capable of realizing your lack of knowledge of some areas that God might exist in, and yet you say that God doesn't exist.

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March 31, 2017, 05:33:17 PM
Go ahead and tell that to that african priest who had too much faith in his powers of controling the nature and got killed by lions. Try it yourself, in fact. Go to the zoo, have faith in my words and jump into the lions cage. Don't be scared, have faith, and you will be able to control them. Come back with pictures, okay?

That isn't faith. It might be faith simulation, but it isn't faith. Of course, if it were faith, it would happen according to the "wishes" of the person who had the faith.

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That is faith. "Faith simulation" doesn't even make sense. That african priest did exactly as Peter supposedly initially did, walking on water(before he lost faith and started to sink). Either way it shows that either 1) The priest didn't have enough of this imaginary thing called faith, 2) God doesn't exist, obviously and hence he died in vain for believing in something that was never there to begin with.
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March 31, 2017, 05:16:41 PM
Yes, I am pretty sure if he had real faith, the kind of faith only you guys know about, he would have easily controled those lions. As for Chrisivl, he was not seeking death, he was proving faith is above everything. The lions, however, did not get affected by his faith and reacted normally by killing him. Fairy tale time is over boys, get over it. Humanity does not need blind faith and manipulation via religion anymore.
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March 31, 2017, 04:27:55 PM
Go ahead and tell that to that african priest who had too much faith in his powers of controling the nature and got killed by lions. Try it yourself, in fact. Go to the zoo, have faith in my words and jump into the lions cage. Don't be scared, have faith, and you will be able to control them. Come back with pictures, okay?

That isn't faith. It might be faith simulation, but it isn't faith. Of course, if it were faith, it would happen according to the "wishes" of the person who had the faith.

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March 31, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Go ahead and tell that to that african priest who had too much faith in his powers of controling the nature and got killed by lions. Try it yourself, in fact. Go to the zoo, have faith in my words and jump into the lions cage. Don't be scared, have faith, and you will be able to control them. Come back with pictures, okay?
You have a very peculiar sense of humor. Or you do not know the meaning of faith, or you have not heard such words as "God cares." If you seek death yourself, then no one will help.
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March 31, 2017, 10:49:10 AM
Go ahead and tell that to that african priest who had too much faith in his powers of controling the nature and got killed by lions. Try it yourself, in fact. Go to the zoo, have faith in my words and jump into the lions cage. Don't be scared, have faith, and you will be able to control them. Come back with pictures, okay?
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March 31, 2017, 10:45:13 AM
That argument will always come first, the health industry rejects it. If it is tested and researched and the health industry does reject it, can we see some proof of the rejection? Anything at all, please? Can you come with examples of the research on the power of prayer? Please come with more than arguments and you shall be trusted.

I already stated several times that prayer will not destroy a pathogen by itself, but I was able to see the results of the remote healing (pathogen cleanse) right away. Since Tom and I are the only ones conducting these experiments, it is probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea of remote healing.

It is far from probably correct to say that since numbers tell you it's probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea knowing it's pure bullshit and they prefer to recieve real specialised treatment. You are just being delusional.

Whatever faith is, it is the thing that controls all of nature and everything else. People are weak in faith. That is why God gave them material things, to strengthen their faith. Prayer, also, strengthens faith. Faith doesn't need prayer to make anything work. But people need prayer to strengthen their faith.

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March 31, 2017, 09:09:07 AM
That argument will always come first, the health industry rejects it. If it is tested and researched and the health industry does reject it, can we see some proof of the rejection? Anything at all, please? Can you come with examples of the research on the power of prayer? Please come with more than arguments and you shall be trusted.

I already stated several times that prayer will not destroy a pathogen by itself, but I was able to see the results of the remote healing (pathogen cleanse) right away. Since Tom and I are the only ones conducting these experiments, it is probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea of remote healing.

It is far from probably correct to say that since numbers tell you it's probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea knowing it's pure bullshit and they prefer to recieve real specialised treatment. You are just being delusional.
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March 31, 2017, 08:17:20 AM
science does not work that way, science mostly provides facts that God does not exits Undecided 
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March 30, 2017, 06:11:25 PM
That argument will always come first, the health industry rejects it. If it is tested and researched and the health industry does reject it, can we see some proof of the rejection? Anything at all, please? Can you come with examples of the research on the power of prayer? Please come with more than arguments and you shall be trusted.

I already stated several times that prayer will not destroy a pathogen by itself, but I was able to see the results of the remote healing (pathogen cleanse) right away. Since Tom and I are the only ones conducting these experiments, it is probably correct to say that others are not interested and reject the idea of remote healing.
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March 30, 2017, 06:00:43 PM
That argument will always come first, the health industry rejects it. If it is tested and researched and the health industry does reject it, can we see some proof of the rejection? Anything at all, please? Can you come with examples of the research on the power of prayer? Please come with more than arguments and you shall be trusted.

Even no one will conduct these studies. No one needs to prove it. There must always be a confrontation between believers and atheists
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March 30, 2017, 10:40:34 AM
That argument will always come first, the health industry rejects it. If it is tested and researched and the health industry does reject it, can we see some proof of the rejection? Anything at all, please? Can you come with examples of the research on the power of prayer? Please come with more than arguments and you shall be trusted.
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March 30, 2017, 02:28:40 AM
Official medicine is moving in the wrong direction if it tries to ignore the role of vibrational physics in disease. Often the official medical position continues to be wrong, like with root canals, vaccines, astrology...

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the famous quote from Hippocrates  : “a physician without a knowledge of Astrology has no right to call himself a physician .” The was held to be true by physicians throughout the 17th Century in the West and in many parts of the world, such as India, it was never forgotten. The reverse was also true. Every astrologer was expected to know something about Physic because  astrology deals with body, mind and soul. Various plants were used in relation to their planetary natures to bring about the desired result.
Medicine is in need of reform and already there is a naturopath in every city, the more that we can distribute the correct healing protocol the better results for everyone.

Just consider the many smart individuals who all believed in a Creator! Here you can see some of the greatest minds in science and mathematics probing the great mysteries and overcoming the materialist bias of their peers.
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers

Francis Bacon, “Of Atheism” (1601): “A little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion,”

The raw truth is never popular. As for scalar energy, it is not harmful and not untested, it is merely rejected by the mainstream for-profit health industry. Most people understand intuitively that prayer works as a motivator and confidence booster, there is even some research showing the positive effect of magical thinking on performance.
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March 29, 2017, 08:52:39 PM
Only a few selected groups of real believers which are the same people experimenting, thinking, looking and seeking for the truth will see the obvious signs and evidence of God existing.

This is also an explanation of why atheism is a religion. They try ignore the fact that God exists.

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