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March 29, 2017, 11:15:24 AM
I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.
I am conducting scientific research and I already disclosed my findings, I only tested for pathogen cleanse effectiveness. By the way I still zap myself and feel the pathogenic activity in my mouth, that is because of constant re-infection that must be treated; I had fewer sensations in my mouth when treated with scalar energy than with daily microcurrent and no outbreaks, but I will not be using myself as a CONTROL GROUP for this study . Naturopaths will have more experience than I on scalar treatment for a variety of issues, you could also become an expert and help to heal the world's diseases. Anyone can try this test on animals, allegedly even on pathogens on a microscope slide. Why is Tom posting experiments that confirm my experience while you sit back and say that neither of us are scientists? Is it just because we are not believing in the philosophical materialism of scientism? Perhaps you could ask a local scientists group to take a photo of some pathogens like in Tom's experiment. Yes that is a very nice experiment to try! I think that citizen science is fun!

You see, you are not conducting a scientific research, not by far. You are only trying what a scam artist (Tom Paladino) told you can heal the unhealed diseases (not a fucking tooth infection). Your infection relapsed because it has not been treated, but fought back. What you idiot do not understand is that you might have a cavity along with that infection, and by not going to a dentist who will intervene to treat the infection and clean everything up, you might lose your tooth because if there is tissue damage, scalar energy won't do shit to build it back. Not anyone can try this test on animals because not anyone is a scientist, you went from try it on yourselves to try it on animals. Let the animals be and you zap yourself as much as you want, stop telling people to try your shit until that shit becomes properly researched and not just claimed to be researched by a complete whaco that scams people on the internet. Both of you are not scientists and both of you can zap yourselves as much as you can, just don't tell other idiots to do the same. Thank you!
I am urging everyone to test this out, it will not hurt anyone to submit their photograph, right??? Why do you think that the energy could produce a remote harm or benefit via your photo if this guy is a scam artist?! Seems illogical.
One can include a photo of a pet as well. Your opinion on the effectiveness or danger of submitting a photo is not backed by any evidence, on the other hand I have personally seen that pathogens are cleansed from the infected area, something that normally would have to be done with either microcurrent or chemical antibiotics. The treatment is free, and it is not like sending a photo of your foot is going to harm you from a distance. I will certainly be following up on my experiment, I will not wait for others, and I never call people crazy until I have determined the truth for myself.
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March 29, 2017, 05:32:27 AM
God is actually a name for aliens, we have missinterpreted it all these years

You can see every religion says the gods came from the stars, even the bible Smiley

And my hypotesis is that they came, they saw a smart species [apes] and they implemented a missing gene in them to make them evolve, to make us

I guess you don't actually believe in the existence of just one supreme being called God. But even if you don't, its ridiculous to conclude that God is another name for aliens, if you do believe in the existence of aliens, then you should also believe that God truly exist.
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March 29, 2017, 04:26:36 AM
I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.
I am conducting scientific research and I already disclosed my findings, I only tested for pathogen cleanse effectiveness. By the way I still zap myself and feel the pathogenic activity in my mouth, that is because of constant re-infection that must be treated; I had fewer sensations in my mouth when treated with scalar energy than with daily microcurrent and no outbreaks, but I will not be using myself as a CONTROL GROUP for this study . Naturopaths will have more experience than I on scalar treatment for a variety of issues, you could also become an expert and help to heal the world's diseases. Anyone can try this test on animals, allegedly even on pathogens on a microscope slide. Why is Tom posting experiments that confirm my experience while you sit back and say that neither of us are scientists? Is it just because we are not believing in the philosophical materialism of scientism? Perhaps you could ask a local scientists group to take a photo of some pathogens like in Tom's experiment. Yes that is a very nice experiment to try! I think that citizen science is fun!

You see, you are not conducting a scientific research, not by far. You are only trying what a scam artist (Tom Paladino) told you can heal the unhealed diseases (not a fucking tooth infection). Your infection relapsed because it has not been treated, but fought back. What you idiot do not understand is that you might have a cavity along with that infection, and by not going to a dentist who will intervene to treat the infection and clean everything up, you might lose your tooth because if there is tissue damage, scalar energy won't do shit to build it back. Not anyone can try this test on animals because not anyone is a scientist, you went from try it on yourselves to try it on animals. Let the animals be and you zap yourself as much as you want, stop telling people to try your shit until that shit becomes properly researched and not just claimed to be researched by a complete whaco that scams people on the internet. Both of you are not scientists and both of you can zap yourselves as much as you can, just don't tell other idiots to do the same. Thank you!
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March 28, 2017, 10:23:59 PM
I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.
I am conducting scientific research and I already disclosed my findings, I only tested for pathogen cleanse effectiveness. By the way I still zap myself and feel the pathogenic activity in my mouth, that is because of constant re-infection that must be treated; I had fewer sensations in my mouth when treated with scalar energy than with daily microcurrent and no outbreaks, but I will not be using myself as a CONTROL GROUP for this study . Naturopaths will have more experience than I on scalar treatment for a variety of issues, you could also become an expert and help to heal the world's diseases. Anyone can try this test on animals, allegedly even on pathogens on a microscope slide. Why is Tom posting experiments that confirm my experience while you sit back and say that neither of us are scientists? Is it just because we are not believing in the philosophical materialism of scientism? Perhaps you could ask a local scientists group to take a photo of some pathogens like in Tom's experiment. Yes that is a very nice experiment to try! I think that citizen science is fun!
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March 28, 2017, 06:14:56 PM

BIG PHUKKING FACE PLANT IN MY KEYBOARD!!

                                           https://i.imgur.com/UrCSU2u.jpg

You type with your nose? Does your tongue help out now and again?

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hey now!! lol my friend!!  and for once, you lost the stupid shades emoji... (its getting old and tired dude...just sayin)
hallelujah!    I feel honored!!
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March 28, 2017, 05:15:14 PM
how about this discoveries:

Archaeology Discoveries that Prove the Bible is True [FULL VIDEO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxHYh3QZbTI

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March 28, 2017, 04:42:34 PM
I pretty much doubt qwik2learn is a scientist or is specialised in studying the scalar waves and their effect on the imunity system. Also, even though some things are still tested on human beings, most of the experiments are being tested on animals.
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March 28, 2017, 04:25:07 PM
I am not skeptical of Tesla's work on scalar waves, I am skeptical on a religious man confusing the scalar waves with the power of god, using a treatment that is not fully researched yet and which is targeting different dangers for the human being, not a tooth infection which might end up pretty bad if not seeing a dentist. The placebo response is well known of and that might be your answer untill further studies. Your imunity system might be also strong and fought back with or without the help of scalar waves. I have no problem with you testing things on yourself, I have a problem with you encouraging people to experiment god's power by trying scalar waves treatments that have not yet been fully researched. (especially not by the Tom Paladino)

From http://amhistory.si.edu/polio/virusvaccine/vacraces2.htm regarding Salk and Sabin:
Although the scientific method of hypothesis formulation, testing, and verification is straightforward, even the most spectacular achievements involve complicated issues and tough choices. The scientists who raced toward effective polio vaccines tested their work on prisoners, institutionalized children, and tens of thousands of monkeys, as well as on themselves and their family members. They believed they were serving the greater good of society and of science.

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March 28, 2017, 01:52:04 PM
I am not skeptical of Tesla's work on scalar waves, I am skeptical on a religious man confusing the scalar waves with the power of god, using a treatment that is not fully researched yet and which is targeting different dangers for the human being, not a tooth infection which might end up pretty bad if not seeing a dentist. The placebo response is well known of and that might be your answer untill further studies. Your imunity system might be also strong and fought back with or without the help of scalar waves. I have no problem with you testing things on yourself, I have a problem with you encouraging people to experiment god's power by trying scalar waves treatments that have not yet been fully researched. (especially not by the Tom Paladino)
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March 28, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
First of all I do not assume, I am based on proofs recognised around the world: medicine.
I am basing my belief on the medical treatment and monitoring that I have given myself for over 2 years with this infection, I present my case study of medicine just like anyone else would. The scalar energy is more effective than the microcurrent that I have been applying for two years.

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Second of all, you talking about a PCR that proves your experiment is only reflecting how little you know about the subject. Go make your homework and learn what a PCR is and does.
Ok, just checked and saw it is relevant for pathogens. It would tell you the level of the pathogen in your body. Just as I thought, you are confused about what this treatment entails and how PCR is used to verify that the pathogens are gone.
Pathogen detection:
https://www.qiagen.com/us/spotlight-pages/newsletters-and-magazines/articles/applications-pathogen-detection/

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And last but not least, saying that the lives of those who might die because of these stupid ideas are less important than me proving to you that you are a liar is exactly what religion has done and is still doing to humanity. That is the base of it, the sacrifice and it involves egocentric bullshit that is no longer trusted by any sane human being today.
Wait, why would one die if they are receiving treatment? This treatment is trusted by me, and I am not insane, just a guy with a battery and a dead tooth looking for a simpler solution.

I already said that prayer will not destroy any pathogens by itself, prayer is your strawman, and you should easily be able to prove that PCR is not relevant to treating pathogens and determining their presence in the body. Also to disprove the results from this energy is very easy; I do not see what is the problem?

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Take your toys, go play wherever you want with your childish (although children are a bit skeptic of this nonsense, they have better stories) ideas and if you want to start curing yourself with prayers, go ahead and do it, but leave others out of this.
It is not childish, you are just skeptical of the work of Tesla and those who study scalar energy like he did.
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March 28, 2017, 11:39:42 AM
You can't prove what you can't see. You can only choose to believe but you'll find out the truth when you're deceased. Believe or ignore, your call.

Is feeling things the same as seeing them? I mean, you can't see the wind, but you can feel it, so you have proof, right?

Many people feel God, so we have proof that He exists. Those who think they don't feel God really do feel Him. They just interpret what they are feeling in a different way, and so they think that God doesn't exist.

If people had no sensory perception at all, there would be no science. There would be no proof of anything. Since all sensory perception is based on feeling - seeing is simply feeling light rays in a sensitive way - feeling is the thing that we use to present proof to us. People who feel God have simply found feeling proof that God exists. They have also found feeling proof that science exists.

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March 28, 2017, 10:25:57 AM
You can't prove what you can't see. You can only choose to believe but you'll find out the truth when you're deceased. Believe or ignore, your call.
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March 28, 2017, 06:03:37 AM
First of all I do not assume, I am based on proofs recognised around the world: medicine. Second of all, you talking about a PCR that proves your experiment is only reflecting how little you know about the subject. Go make your homework and learn what a PCR is and does. And last but not least, saying that the lives of those who might die because of these stupid ideas are less important than me proving to you that you are a liar is exactly what religion has done and is still doing to humanity. That is the base of it, the sacrifice and it involves egocentric bullshit that is no longer trusted by any sane human being today. Take your toys, go play wherever you want with your childish (although children are a bit skeptic of this nonsense, they have better stories) ideas and if you want to start curing yourself with prayers, go ahead and do it, but leave others out of this.
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March 27, 2017, 11:08:23 PM
Why do you assume that I lie about my experience? Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.

Anyone could confirm or deny the results based on a PCR test. I conducted my own tests but I did not use PCR. Go ahead and improve upon my methods.

I propose that a true skeptic should conduct this test. No need to be concerned about those who could be victims, just release the results of your experiment and it will prove that I am a liar.
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March 27, 2017, 09:01:35 PM
While I am extremely tolerrant to beliefs and faith, I find it very dangerous when religious people come up with experiments such as 'try the healing energy of God'. Why would you lie to people telling them that in 15 days you can cure infections, illnesses, etc only with the help of prayer and faith? You can believe in whatever you want but keep it to yourself and most of it, keep your dumb ideas for yourself. Dumb people might end up dying or killing their children because of such idiotic nonsense. In my country, a case of two parents who refused treatment in favor of prayer for their little girl, who ended up dying, is still being judged.
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March 26, 2017, 09:01:42 AM
Sorry BADecker,
Jesus never taught that he would take away the sins of the world, that teaching comes from Paul. Why do you honor this teaching when Jesus simply taught "stop sinning"? Sounds like you have been hoodwinked! Jesus did not teach "Jesus salvation" at all, he taught the path of not sinning. You came up with most of the reasoning all on your own, in this circular post of yours where you make the bizzare claim that Paul's Bible teaching is the only teaching that matters to any Christian:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12775612

Jesus never said that you would be damned for "not believing in Jesus":
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hell

You better study a bit further. The following two passages are a couple of hints as to what to look for.

Quote from: John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Quote from: Revelation 20:14,15
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

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March 25, 2017, 09:01:32 PM
Sorry BADecker,
Jesus never taught that he would take away the sins of the world, that teaching comes from Paul. Why do you honor this teaching when Jesus simply taught "stop sinning"? Sounds like you have been hoodwinked! Jesus did not teach "Jesus salvation" at all, he taught the path of not sinning. You came up with most of the reasoning all on your own, in this circular post of yours where you make the bizzare claim that Paul's Bible teaching is the only teaching that matters to any Christian:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12775612

Jesus never said that you would be damned for "not believing in Jesus":
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15353/did-jesus-actually-ever-say-if-you-dont-believe-in-me-you-go-to-hell
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March 25, 2017, 08:48:10 PM

BIG PHUKKING FACE PLANT IN MY KEYBOARD!!

                                           https://i.imgur.com/UrCSU2u.jpg

You type with your nose? Does your tongue help out now and again?

 Grin
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March 25, 2017, 08:43:44 PM
Hi BADecker,
Jesus actually "implanted something" in all humans "betwen his death and resurrection"?
Not sure how that is relevant to lessons here on earth. Maybe just focus on the "not sinning" part of the Bible since Jesus actually taught that stuff.

According to Matthew, when Jesus died, the curtain in the temple was ripped in two, and, many of the saints who had died came to life, and walked around in the city, and were seen by many people.

At His death, Jesus imparted something to all people, implanting it in them. The saints (believers) get it most, whatever it was.

My idea is this. It isn't found to be taught by anyone that I know of. Here it is.

Jesus, on the cross, took the punishment for all  sins in the whole world. This is standard understanding in many Christian denominations.

Next... Then what are people in Hell going to pay for? It wouldn't be the sins, because Jesus already paid for them, and God is just. He won't punish twice for the same sins.

The one sin that has not been paid for is the sin against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the One Who works repentance in the heart, so that a person can accept God, and be in favor of Him rather than against Him. Even Jesus taught that this was the only unforgivable sin... locked in unbelief.

Since all people die, all people will rise just like Jesus did. Jesus paid the whole penalty and arose on the third day. So, all people will arise, and with a glorified body, like Jesus had after He arose. Because the sins that stop people from having a glorified body have been paid for, by Jesus on the cross.

Then, after the resurrection, the one unforgiven, unforgivable sin kicks in. The punishment for that sin is Hell.

The reason Hell is eternal is that a glorified body can die no longer. And the soul that rides in the undying body will live right along with it, forever. Hell - the lake of fire (Revelation) - will attempt to burn the glorified body. The glorified body will resist because it has been glorified. The turmoil of these to opposing activities will go on forever. It won't be fun for the soul riding in one of these bodies to interpret the burning as pain and torment, yet be renewed just to go on feeling the pain.

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March 25, 2017, 08:35:25 PM
What experiment did YOU conduct?

I tried it out for 15 days and my infection went away, thus I am convinced. Without treating the tooth with microcurrent or antibiotics, a breakout comes in only a few days. It happened to me twice before, so I know about my infection, having managed it for over 2 years. Upon submitting my photo to Tom, I no longer needed to apply the microcurrent. A true skeptic conducts his own tests, for example telekinesis is tested in the series "Superhumans" from Stan Lee. These tests definitely prove that matter is a form of mind, and I do not think you have the evidence to back up anything that you say.

You troll me only because you are too lazy to do your own experiment.  Cool
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