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April 02, 2017, 08:53:00 PM
Lifting an object at a distance with the mind:
http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/
How can the atheist account for this kind of astonishing mental power? Only by concluding that matter is a form of mind, but then this would suggest that a part of the mind or personality could "survive" beyond physical death.

Eminent researchers who recognized the truth about mind were many, often they conducted their own experiments and were critical of Darwinian theory:
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers

Evidence that supports survival comes from many and varying classes of phenomena; here you can find the top 40 cases of spirit contact and reincarnation:
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

More details about survival research and studies about the effectiveness of prayer:
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Anomalous phenomena supporting the survival theory includes:  out-of-body experiences such as researched by Jerry Gross, (1) deathbed visions, (2) quantum physics, (3) dream research, (4) after-death communications research, (5) reincarnation research, (6) hypnosis, (7) synchronicity, (8 ) remote viewing, and (9) consciousness research.

Because NDEs have many common core elements, this suggests that they are spiritual voyages outside of the body. Also, if the dying brain creates NDE illusions, what is the purpose for doing it? If our brains are only a high-tech computer-like lump of tissue which produces our mind and personality, why does it bother to create illusions at the time of death? If everything, including the mind and personality, are about to disintegrate, why would the brain produce a last wonderful Grand Finale vision? Even if NDE elements can be reduced to only a series of brain reactions, this does not negate the idea that NDEs are more than a brain thing.

Many skeptical arguments against the survival theory are actually arguments from pseudo-skeptics who often think they have no burden of proof. Such arguments often based on scientism with assumptions that survival is impossible even though survival has not been ruled out. Faulty conclusions are often made such as, "Because NDEs have a brain chemical connection then survival is impossible." Pseudo-skeptical arguments are sometimes made that do not consider the entire body of circumstantial evidence supporting the possibility of survival or do not consider the possibility of new paradigms. Such pseudo-skeptical claims are often made without any scientific evidence.
http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html
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April 02, 2017, 08:23:49 PM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:


God helps in healing, but walking with such an infection and hoping only for God is too stupid. I would have gone to the dentist long ago and thanked God for sending me a good dentist. And if the seal falls out, will some people also pray to God or go to the dentist?
That is what I said: prayer will not kill a pathogen, you need medical technology or GOD's healing energy. I had to take amoxicillin several times but often instead of using it for 10 days I stopped at 2 days thanks to the electromedicine device. I read about others who treated themselves with electromedicine and scalar energy medicine so I decided to try them BOTH.
 I can confirm that prayer can bring you to self-knowledge, it is not a substitute for physical healing or action. I pointed out how GOD has helped me through His energy and how it was a simple experiment to test the effectiveness of the energy. This is my scientific proof and Tom Paladino suggests more experiments on his site, yet the pseudo-skeptics Horacewoodwood and stats will try to tell me that my experience with my own medical treatment is invalid because it involves healing an infection at a distance. Instead they should improve upon my methods and see what happens in their own experiments. Why is it that I had my disease managed better than ever during the 15 day pathogen cleanse? Please do not be too quick to reject the truthful answer.
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April 02, 2017, 07:58:50 PM
So here ya go folks just in case you haven't seen the indisputable proof that god exists
I thought I'd post these links for you ....
They've already been posted 3 gazillion times by my buddy BADecker. (As you may have noticed)
And they all link right back to him and his indisputable knowledge of the facts. Imagine that!
Its like riding the bitcointalk merry-go-round... weeeee!
So that makes it that much more indisputable because remember folks, you keep on repeating
the same thing over and over again, eventually it becomes true!!

so I repeated it six more times just to be sure   Grin




Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

                                



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April 02, 2017, 06:17:27 PM

Faith simulation is when someone attempts to believe that he has enough faith. Peter had enough faith as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

In any event, you have stated that God doesn't exist. Prove it by showing the vast knowledge that you have... knowledge that knows virtually every corner of the macrocosm and microcosm, plus all the dimensions, so that we all know that you have checked everything out to be certain that God isn't out there somewhere.

If you fail in this proof, then you are at least ignorant about your atheism, but are probably a liar. Why a liar? You are capable of realizing your lack of knowledge of some areas that God might exist in, and yet you say that God doesn't exist.

Cool

First of all, I don't need to proove anything, I don't claim god exists. First prove his existence and then we will talk about him not existing. Science does not prove God's existence, in fact it proves there are some big holes in the story and from that point of view it all becomes a hoax.
Cause and effect, entropy, and complex universe are scientific facts and laws. No hoax.


You can start with the 5000 claimed age and from that point of view God is already bullshit.
Cause and effect, entropy, and complex universe don't say anything about 5000 years... not directly, anyway.


Second of all, I have never claimed to be omnipotent and all knowing as your god does. Calling me a liar for failing to search for your god in every corner of the world as if he was playing hide and seek is plain reetarded and sais very much about your infantility.
The fact that you are a liar is shown by your statements wherein you claim that God doesn't exist. The fact that you are posting in detail like this, shows that you are aware that you don't know that He doesn't exist. Sounds like you are a liar to me.


The funny fact is when given the full story of god, every religious man will know about the shit that is regarded as the writings, the bible.
The funny fact is that this is totally irrelevant. Why? Nobody knows the full story of God. God is so great that it would take all of eternity to learn the full story of God.


Most of the religious 'scientists' that had debates about the existence of god have come to a point in recognising the story is complete bullshit but people need faith, they need the teachings, etc. That, my friend, is a liar.
The only lie is the unwillingness of people to accept the proof of the existence of God in my links above. Such people lie to themselves, and then to others when they express their lie.


A child that believes in Santa Claus is not a liar because he's been lied about it and doesn't know too much.
You are lying about this. It might be a lie out of ignorance. But all falsehoods are lies. See:
A grown up man who went past that, found out the truth but still believes in Santa is a liar because knowing the story was a hoax, he still choosed to believe. If he wouldn't it would mean he was wrong, and some people really hate being wrong.

Well, now that you have shown that you are wrong, if you hate it, you will stop being a liar... maybe even admit to your lying and so redeem yourself somewhat.

Cool
Cause and effect, entropy and complex universe have absolutely nothing to do with the proof of the existence of a God. The only liar is the one who started all of this. It all started by claiming that there is an omnipresent, omnipotent all knowing God. It did not start with someone denying it. Once you come up with facts and theories (scientific ones, retard) that god is real, you can claim something. Since you can't do that, fuck off. The 'God is so great no one can know his story' don't work anymore, not even on children. Enough with the bullshit, start proving or fuck off. Plain and simple.

When you look at the links, above, you can see the process whereby cause and effect, entropy, and complex universe prove the existence of God.

Anybody can say that God isn't proven by these facts and laws. But show us the spot where the proof breaks down. Do it through step-by-step explanation, the same way that the proof is explained. If you don't, you simply have a occultic cult going for yourself.

Cool

EDIT: The fact that you are upset enough to use foul language and to pick on something you can't explain away, shows that you are convinced by it, at least to some extent. Why would you be convinced? Because it makes sense.
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April 02, 2017, 05:12:48 PM
Only a few selected groups of real believers which are the same people experimenting, thinking, looking and seeking for the truth will see the obvious signs and evidence of God existing.

This is also an explanation of why atheism is a religion. They try ignore the fact that God exists.

Cool


indeed, i posted facts, and even them unbelivers (need signs) they ignored instead of watching and do the works to find the truth - so here again for all Thomas like peoples:

Archaeology Discoveries that Prove the Bible is True [FULL VIDEO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxHYh3QZbTI

more proofs? search for Ron Wyatt

what most people don't understand, Religions and Churches has nothing to do with the gospel of the coming kingdom of God. All this Kathedrales and churchbuildings are baal temples and they tell you all you wanna hear, but not the truth. why? because they are all Man made and want your money !

cheers
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April 02, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:


God helps in healing, but walking with such an infection and hoping only for God is too stupid. I would have gone to the dentist long ago and thanked God for sending me a good dentist. And if the seal falls out, will some people also pray to God or go to the dentist?

What? You never heard of placebo action? There is evidence that more than a third of all healings are done by placebo action. How much more if God is involved!

Cool

I agree with you. All diseases are provoked by the person himself. He believes in illness and therefore falls ill. And then he begins to believe in God and pills. And really healed
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April 02, 2017, 02:45:43 PM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:


God helps in healing, but walking with such an infection and hoping only for God is too stupid. I would have gone to the dentist long ago and thanked God for sending me a good dentist. And if the seal falls out, will some people also pray to God or go to the dentist?

What? You never heard of placebo action? There is evidence that more than a third of all healings are done by placebo action. How much more if God is involved!

Cool
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April 02, 2017, 01:11:37 PM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:
http://www.teethrelief.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/image-5.jpg

God helps in healing, but walking with such an infection and hoping only for God is too stupid. I would have gone to the dentist long ago and thanked God for sending me a good dentist. And if the seal falls out, will some people also pray to God or go to the dentist?
I do not think it's worth sarcasm in this matter, because religion is one thing, and medicine is different. Nobody is asking the god of money or other things. They also will not ask for healthy teeth.
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April 02, 2017, 12:02:48 PM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:

And you as well, with your delusional bullshit, fuck off. Go to a dentist, you miserable retard. It would have been solved in 7 days, you donkey.

Actually, God's healing energy DOES help with everything. The only reason why we don't get sick more, is that the healing energy of God keeps us from getting sick more. But even God, great as He is, gets a little tired of keeping people healthy without a little bit of thanks after a while. So, we are the ones that are actually forcing His healing hands out of our lives by not thanking Him.

If God's healing and protecting energy were not around keeping us well, what would happen? The devil would destroy all life on this planet in an instant.

Cool

What a crock of shit.

Please tell me you don't go to doctor's or hospital's for any kind of medical help.

At least then I know your complete bullshit will die with you!
Let the person believe in what he wants. If he is helped by God to survive and recover from severe illnesses, then so be it. And you are treated with the help of doctors and pills. To each his own. But why swear.
There is a difference between believing in whatever you want and telling people you can cure them with the power of god so no need for doctors. That's when you get told to fuck off.
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April 02, 2017, 10:53:02 AM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:


God helps in healing, but walking with such an infection and hoping only for God is too stupid. I would have gone to the dentist long ago and thanked God for sending me a good dentist. And if the seal falls out, will some people also pray to God or go to the dentist?
legendary
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April 02, 2017, 10:47:16 AM

SNIP (same old BADecker links back to his same old drivel)

First of all, I don't need to prove anything, I don't claim god exists. First prove his existence and then we will talk about him not existing. Science does not prove God's existence, in fact it proves there are some big holes in the story and from that point of view it all becomes a hoax.

SNIP (same old BADecker drivel)

Cool
Cause and effect, entropy and complex universe have absolutely nothing to do with the proof of the existence of a God. The only liar is the one who started all of this. It all started by claiming that there is an omnipresent, omnipotent all knowing God. It did not start with someone denying it. Once you come up with facts and theories (scientific ones, retard) that god is real, you can claim something. Since you can't do that, fuck off. The 'God is so great no one can know his story' don't work anymore, not even on children. Enough with the bullshit, start proving or fuck off. Plain and simple.

@ Horace ,nice to see some rational logic once in awhile on this thread. thanx for your insight my friend. And as far as actually getting through to these nutters?....fuhgeddaboudit!!

...oh and btw, you can see much more delusionaL BADecker comedic nonsense---> here   Grin
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April 02, 2017, 10:24:39 AM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:
http://www.teethrelief.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/image-5.jpg
And you as well, with your delusional bullshit, fuck off. Go to a dentist, you miserable retard. It would have been solved in 7 days, you donkey.

Actually, God's healing energy DOES help with everything. The only reason why we don't get sick more, is that the healing energy of God keeps us from getting sick more. But even God, great as He is, gets a little tired of keeping people healthy without a little bit of thanks after a while. So, we are the ones that are actually forcing His healing hands out of our lives by not thanking Him.

If God's healing and protecting energy were not around keeping us well, what would happen? The devil would destroy all life on this planet in an instant.

Cool

What a crock of shit.

Please tell me you don't go to doctor's or hospital's for any kind of medical help.

At least then I know your complete bullshit will die with you!
Let the person believe in what he wants. If he is helped by God to survive and recover from severe illnesses, then so be it. And you are treated with the help of doctors and pills. To each his own. But why swear.
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April 02, 2017, 09:53:34 AM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:

And you as well, with your delusional bullshit, fuck off. Go to a dentist, you miserable retard. It would have been solved in 7 days, you donkey.

Actually, God's healing energy DOES help with everything. The only reason why we don't get sick more, is that the healing energy of God keeps us from getting sick more. But even God, great as He is, gets a little tired of keeping people healthy without a little bit of thanks after a while. So, we are the ones that are actually forcing His healing hands out of our lives by not thanking Him.

If God's healing and protecting energy were not around keeping us well, what would happen? The devil would destroy all life on this planet in an instant.

Cool

What a crock of shit.

Please tell me you don't go to doctor's or hospital's for any kind of medical help.

At least then I know your complete bullshit will die with you!
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April 02, 2017, 09:35:10 AM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:

And you as well, with your delusional bullshit, fuck off. Go to a dentist, you miserable retard. It would have been solved in 7 days, you donkey.

Actually, God's healing energy DOES help with everything. The only reason why we don't get sick more, is that the healing energy of God keeps us from getting sick more. But even God, great as He is, gets a little tired of keeping people healthy without a little bit of thanks after a while. So, we are the ones that are actually forcing His healing hands out of our lives by not thanking Him.

If God's healing and protecting energy were not around keeping us well, what would happen? The devil would destroy all life on this planet in an instant.

Cool
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April 02, 2017, 06:00:07 AM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:

And you as well, with your delusional bullshit, fuck off. Go to a dentist, you miserable retard. It would have been solved in 7 days, you donkey.
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April 02, 2017, 05:58:17 AM

Faith simulation is when someone attempts to believe that he has enough faith. Peter had enough faith as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

In any event, you have stated that God doesn't exist. Prove it by showing the vast knowledge that you have... knowledge that knows virtually every corner of the macrocosm and microcosm, plus all the dimensions, so that we all know that you have checked everything out to be certain that God isn't out there somewhere.

If you fail in this proof, then you are at least ignorant about your atheism, but are probably a liar. Why a liar? You are capable of realizing your lack of knowledge of some areas that God might exist in, and yet you say that God doesn't exist.

Cool

First of all, I don't need to proove anything, I don't claim god exists. First prove his existence and then we will talk about him not existing. Science does not prove God's existence, in fact it proves there are some big holes in the story and from that point of view it all becomes a hoax.
Cause and effect, entropy, and complex universe are scientific facts and laws. No hoax.


You can start with the 5000 claimed age and from that point of view God is already bullshit.
Cause and effect, entropy, and complex universe don't say anything about 5000 years... not directly, anyway.


Second of all, I have never claimed to be omnipotent and all knowing as your god does. Calling me a liar for failing to search for your god in every corner of the world as if he was playing hide and seek is plain reetarded and sais very much about your infantility.
The fact that you are a liar is shown by your statements wherein you claim that God doesn't exist. The fact that you are posting in detail like this, shows that you are aware that you don't know that He doesn't exist. Sounds like you are a liar to me.


The funny fact is when given the full story of god, every religious man will know about the shit that is regarded as the writings, the bible.
The funny fact is that this is totally irrelevant. Why? Nobody knows the full story of God. God is so great that it would take all of eternity to learn the full story of God.


Most of the religious 'scientists' that had debates about the existence of god have come to a point in recognising the story is complete bullshit but people need faith, they need the teachings, etc. That, my friend, is a liar.
The only lie is the unwillingness of people to accept the proof of the existence of God in my links above. Such people lie to themselves, and then to others when they express their lie.


A child that believes in Santa Claus is not a liar because he's been lied about it and doesn't know too much.
You are lying about this. It might be a lie out of ignorance. But all falsehoods are lies. See:
A grown up man who went past that, found out the truth but still believes in Santa is a liar because knowing the story was a hoax, he still choosed to believe. If he wouldn't it would mean he was wrong, and some people really hate being wrong.

Well, now that you have shown that you are wrong, if you hate it, you will stop being a liar... maybe even admit to your lying and so redeem yourself somewhat.

Cool
Cause and effect, entropy and complex universe have absolutely nothing to do with the proof of the existence of a God. The only liar is the one who started all of this. It all started by claiming that there is an omnipresent, omnipotent all knowing God. It did not start with someone denying it. Once you come up with facts and theories (scientific ones, retard) that god is real, you can claim something. Since you can't do that, fuck off. The 'God is so great no one can know his story' don't work anymore, not even on children. Enough with the bullshit, start proving or fuck off. Plain and simple.
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April 02, 2017, 01:51:18 AM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:


This makes sense how your god's healing powers work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipYDDXo5C0

I can not understand why God is here to your teeth. You are very literate about faith. I think that you need to reconsider your views and otherwise it's like self-deception.
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April 01, 2017, 06:02:07 PM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:


This makes sense how your god's healing powers work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipYDDXo5C0
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April 01, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
You claim that your god's healing energy can help..... then it should help everything.
I have evidence that this energy helps with infections; are you trying to suggest that it DOES NOT?
In this thread: pseudo-skeptics try to suggest that they can know something for sure without first conducting a test.

Telekinesis was also ridiculed by skeptics, but now the evidence suggests that it is real, the tests have proven that matter is a form of mind. However, an infection cannot be controlled by mental effort or placebo, it takes more than that to destroy a pathogen. I have used the "Godzilla device" as a source of microcurrent for over 2 years to treat an infected tooth with some success, I did not use prayer, but I did use amoxicillin after an outbreak on 2 occassions when I neglected to zap on a daily basis. Also recently I tried Tom's 15 day treatment and it seemed to be more effective than using the Godzilla.

This is not my photo, but I did have an abscess of this size:
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April 01, 2017, 09:07:37 AM

Faith simulation is when someone attempts to believe that he has enough faith. Peter had enough faith as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus.

Proof of the existence of God is both a science thing, and a nature thing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

In any event, you have stated that God doesn't exist. Prove it by showing the vast knowledge that you have... knowledge that knows virtually every corner of the macrocosm and microcosm, plus all the dimensions, so that we all know that you have checked everything out to be certain that God isn't out there somewhere.

If you fail in this proof, then you are at least ignorant about your atheism, but are probably a liar. Why a liar? You are capable of realizing your lack of knowledge of some areas that God might exist in, and yet you say that God doesn't exist.

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First of all, I don't need to proove anything, I don't claim god exists. First prove his existence and then we will talk about him not existing. Science does not prove God's existence, in fact it proves there are some big holes in the story and from that point of view it all becomes a hoax.
Cause and effect, entropy, and complex universe are scientific facts and laws. No hoax.


You can start with the 5000 claimed age and from that point of view God is already bullshit.
Cause and effect, entropy, and complex universe don't say anything about 5000 years... not directly, anyway.


Second of all, I have never claimed to be omnipotent and all knowing as your god does. Calling me a liar for failing to search for your god in every corner of the world as if he was playing hide and seek is plain reetarded and sais very much about your infantility.
The fact that you are a liar is shown by your statements wherein you claim that God doesn't exist. The fact that you are posting in detail like this, shows that you are aware that you don't know that He doesn't exist. Sounds like you are a liar to me.


The funny fact is when given the full story of god, every religious man will know about the shit that is regarded as the writings, the bible.
The funny fact is that this is totally irrelevant. Why? Nobody knows the full story of God. God is so great that it would take all of eternity to learn the full story of God.


Most of the religious 'scientists' that had debates about the existence of god have come to a point in recognising the story is complete bullshit but people need faith, they need the teachings, etc. That, my friend, is a liar.
The only lie is the unwillingness of people to accept the proof of the existence of God in my links above. Such people lie to themselves, and then to others when they express their lie.


A child that believes in Santa Claus is not a liar because he's been lied about it and doesn't know too much.
You are lying about this. It might be a lie out of ignorance. But all falsehoods are lies. See:
A grown up man who went past that, found out the truth but still believes in Santa is a liar because knowing the story was a hoax, he still choosed to believe. If he wouldn't it would mean he was wrong, and some people really hate being wrong.

Well, now that you have shown that you are wrong, if you hate it, you will stop being a liar... maybe even admit to your lying and so redeem yourself somewhat.

Cool
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