evidence of the existence of God can be seen through his creation.
Nature is not created by itself.
their land and oceans on Earth, the planets and stars in the galaxy, with the order that was so neat and orderly.
then who created it and stir it all, if not for God.
Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 229. (Read 845646 times)
This video proves that if we are created in gods image then god is an idiot.
https://youtu.be/GgxSvFoQ59k
Okay so if God exists, this makes any scientific experiment impossible to prove that it's true.
Not necessarily. Jesus said that not one jot or one tittle would fall out of the law, until everything was fulfilled. He also said that until the end, seed time and harvest, marrying and giving in marriage... in other words, life and physics... would go on.While it might be true that nothing is proof in the presence of God, God has allowed many things to be proof until the time of the end.
I do believe in God but I do not think we'll ever be able to find out unless He comes down to Earth and shows us himself.
The clincher for the proof of God lies in the definition of God... not the things that He says about Himself in some holy book.1. Cause and effect is a scientific law that is evident throughout nature, without anything ever being seen to refute it... other than the miracles of God.
2. Entropy is a scientific law that is constantly incompletely referenced by scientists. If it were spoken about in its entirety all the time, the fact that the universe is winding down, dispersing, diffusing, dissipating, would be part of the speaking.
3. What is entropy winding down, dispersing, diffusing, and dissipating? Complexity! Complexity is diminishing because or entropy. Yet, complexity is extremely great, even though it is less-so than it was in the past. You can ask any doctor or researcher for the one-word reason why they can fix all the diseases, or make people to live for a thousand years. They will tell you, COMPLEXITY. Nature is often way too complex for them to figure out the answers to it. But if they do figure them out, the complexity might not let them apply the answers.
Cause and effect is programming of the whole universe... that programmed intelligence into the universe (a form of high complexity)... that had a beginning (as shown by entropy not having completed its job). This fits our descriptions of God even more aptly than the descriptions, themselves.
We've been left here on the planet to think about it and take which decision we want. I prefer to believe rather than not do so, because if we do believe and we'll die and we find out He doesn't exist and it's finished then it's alright but.. What if we do not believe He exists and when we die we meet Him? What would we do?
This last part is reasonable thinking. But God is dynamic. And He wants us to be dynamic. So, He wants us to actively find out about Him so that we can live and grow, rather than simply outsmart Hell.
For example. The atheism religion has people who try to (unknowingly) set themselves up as God by proclaiming (falsely) that God doesn't exist. So, when they try to set themselves up as God, they proclaim that He exists. In addition, many of them understand certain factual science. They understand part of what God created. So, even they have some minor accuracy in their religion.
Atheism (from the greek ἄθεoς, àtheos, composed of α- privative, without, and θεός, god, literally without god) is a philosophical position opposite to theism and pantheism in general, to polytheism and monotheism in particular. So, everyone who claims that atheism is a religion simply doesn't know what he's talking about.
Just because people make up a virtual definition and try to apply it to reality, doesn't make either the definition true, or those who attempt to apply it to themselves to be truthful.
Atheism is simply a religion that attempts to fight against God by claiming that He doesn't exist, while nature shows us all around that God DOES exist. So, atheism has formed itself into a religion of non-religion, because atheists are liars about their atheism.
A person who is really close to true atheism is a brute beast of a person... one who doesn't have enough sense to look at nature and see God... one who doesn't realize that he is missing God... one who goes on his way without thinking much, eating and drinking and finding a partner like himself to have sex with.
Okay so if God exists, this makes any scientific experiment impossible to prove that it's true. I do believe in God but I do not think we'll ever be able to find out unless He comes down to Earth and shows us himself. We've been left here on the planet to think about it and take which decision we want. I prefer to believe rather than not do so, because if we do believe and we'll die and we find out He doesn't exist and it's finished then it's alright but.. What if we do not believe He exists and when we die we meet Him? What would we do?
ask him why he is such an evil bastard
He isn't. You are simply mistaking the devil for God. And that is the thing the devil wants you to do.
However, God forgives you for your mistake. But if you die in your mistake, you will have plunged yourself into the agonies of Hell, forever.
If you are debating whether the christian god is more real than the Islamic Allah, or vice versa, you are retarded. They are both the same god. They are a universal god, with differing views on how that god said things should be and how one thinks Jesus is a prophet and the other thinks he's the son of god while being god.
Fun fact, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all pray to the same Abrahamic God. And did you also know that that god is believed to have been one of many gods from an ancient religion. Some references in the Torah to demons actually may be references to other gods from that former religion they broke from. That is also why you find one of the ten commandments explicitly states it is forbidden to pray to false idols, or other gods. So they didn't outright state the Abrahamic God was the only god, but the one true god. And since they conquered all of their region for centuries, they successfully suppressed all other gods from this former religion.
You see similar cases in the Egyptian religion when a king tried to change the religion from many gods to just a religion focused around Ra. Of course in that case the Egyptians rejected that idea and switched back to a religion of many gods soon after that king died.
That's why I reject any human knowledge of gods, as they sound less like masters of the universe and more like regional sports mascots.
Fun fact, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all pray to the same Abrahamic God. And did you also know that that god is believed to have been one of many gods from an ancient religion. Some references in the Torah to demons actually may be references to other gods from that former religion they broke from. That is also why you find one of the ten commandments explicitly states it is forbidden to pray to false idols, or other gods. So they didn't outright state the Abrahamic God was the only god, but the one true god. And since they conquered all of their region for centuries, they successfully suppressed all other gods from this former religion.
You see similar cases in the Egyptian religion when a king tried to change the religion from many gods to just a religion focused around Ra. Of course in that case the Egyptians rejected that idea and switched back to a religion of many gods soon after that king died.
That's why I reject any human knowledge of gods, as they sound less like masters of the universe and more like regional sports mascots.
Wrong. The Islamic god, the Christian God, and the Jewish god are three different g/Gods, even though they have their root in the real God, and their origins expressed through Abraham.
While the Gods of all three religions are one God...
The Islamic God is, simply, one god;
The Jewish god is one god made up of two persons - the Father and the Messiah;
The Christian God is one God made up of 3 Persons.
The Christian God is interesting. He calls Himself by the masculine gender. He is made up of 3 Persons. The Three are One God... All together, in any combination of Two, or Singly and Separately. No matter how many Persons of this God exist together, He is still only One God. Christianity has coined the name/term, the Holy Trinity.
If you are debating whether the christian god is more real than the Islamic Allah, or vice versa, you are retarded. They are both the same god. They are a universal god, with differing views on how that god said things should be and how one thinks Jesus is a prophet and the other thinks he's the son of god while being god.
Fun fact, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all pray to the same Abrahamic God. And did you also know that that god is believed to have been one of many gods from an ancient religion. Some references in the Torah to demons actually may be references to other gods from that former religion they broke from. That is also why you find one of the ten commandments explicitly states it is forbidden to pray to false idols, or other gods. So they didn't outright state the Abrahamic God was the only god, but the one true god. And since they conquered all of their region for centuries, they successfully suppressed all other gods from this former religion.
You see similar cases in the Egyptian religion when a king tried to change the religion from many gods to just a religion focused around Ra. Of course in that case the Egyptians rejected that idea and switched back to a religion of many gods soon after that king died.
That's why I reject any human knowledge of gods, as they sound less like masters of the universe and more like regional sports mascots.
Fun fact, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all pray to the same Abrahamic God. And did you also know that that god is believed to have been one of many gods from an ancient religion. Some references in the Torah to demons actually may be references to other gods from that former religion they broke from. That is also why you find one of the ten commandments explicitly states it is forbidden to pray to false idols, or other gods. So they didn't outright state the Abrahamic God was the only god, but the one true god. And since they conquered all of their region for centuries, they successfully suppressed all other gods from this former religion.
You see similar cases in the Egyptian religion when a king tried to change the religion from many gods to just a religion focused around Ra. Of course in that case the Egyptians rejected that idea and switched back to a religion of many gods soon after that king died.
That's why I reject any human knowledge of gods, as they sound less like masters of the universe and more like regional sports mascots.
Holy shit, someone has way too much time on their hands LO
Two of my fingers smell like vagina this morning. That's an indisputable evolution of the smell on my fingers.
It's a very interesting and scientific fact, keep going!Scratch -n- sniff
Jesus taught me that trick.
I know that I'm god because every time I have my face buried in some sweet little furry beaver she starts screaming "oh god".
Is that before or after yu Scratch -n- sniff?
It was after I gave her my snake in the garden of eden.
The lord (of the rings) said, "thou shalt wiggle on the great white snake and then sniff thou fingers and scream Oh God. So let it be written, so let it be done. Behold my greatness for I have given you stinky pussy to make thou mustache smell for all eternity." Then the lord peeped through the glory hole at the wonder of his creations procreation and knew it was good and stinky.
LMAO! good one dude! hopefully our buddy BADecker will chime in with his words of wisdom god-swill
Two of my fingers smell like vagina this morning. That's an indisputable evolution of the smell on my fingers.
It's a very interesting and scientific fact, keep going!Scratch -n- sniff
Jesus taught me that trick.
I know that I'm god because every time I have my face buried in some sweet little furry beaver she starts screaming "oh god".
Is that before or after yu Scratch -n- sniff?
It was after I gave her my snake in the garden of eden.
The lord (of the rings) said, "thou shalt wiggle on the great white snake and then sniff thou fingers and scream Oh God. So let it be written, so let it be done. Behold my greatness for I have given you stinky pussy to make thou mustache smell for all eternity." Then the lord peeped through the glory hole at the wonder of his creations procreation and knew it was good and stinky.
I believe there is a god in this life. because God is only one, that Allah SWT. there is no god but He.
Hm, as I recall badecker said tha tthere is only one true god and that that's cristian god... who's right here?
well lets see... yu got the talking snake theory or that dude on the flying horse.
i go with the flying horse hands down, that sounds like fun.
plus getting a hit with a horse shit bomb is far more hilarious than your simple bird shit splatter...
Okay so if God exists, this makes any scientific experiment impossible to prove that it's true. I do believe in God but I do not think we'll ever be able to find out unless He comes down to Earth and shows us himself. We've been left here on the planet to think about it and take which decision we want. I prefer to believe rather than not do so, because if we do believe and we'll die and we find out He doesn't exist and it's finished then it's alright but.. What if we do not believe He exists and when we die we meet Him? What would we do?
ask him why he is such an evil bastard
For example. The atheism religion has people who try to (unknowingly) set themselves up as God by proclaiming (falsely) that God doesn't exist. So, when they try to set themselves up as God, they proclaim that He exists. In addition, many of them understand certain factual science. They understand part of what God created. So, even they have some minor accuracy in their religion.
Atheism (from the greek ἄθεoς, àtheos, composed of α- privative, without, and θεός, god, literally without god) is a philosophical position opposite to theism and pantheism in general, to polytheism and monotheism in particular. So, everyone who claims that atheism is a religion simply doesn't know what he's talking about.
Okay so if God exists, this makes any scientific experiment impossible to prove that it's true. I do believe in God but I do not think we'll ever be able to find out unless He comes down to Earth and shows us himself. We've been left here on the planet to think about it and take which decision we want. I prefer to believe rather than not do so, because if we do believe and we'll die and we find out He doesn't exist and it's finished then it's alright but.. What if we do not believe He exists and when we die we meet Him? What would we do?
I believe there is a god in this life. because God is only one, that Allah SWT. there is no god but He.
Hm, as I recall badecker said tha tthere is only one true god and that that's cristian god... who's right here?
There is only one real God. The complexity of the universe shows that if there were two or more, they would have to be acting as one, just to make things work.
Many people know God in their hearts. Many religions talk about the true God. The Christian religion (not necessarily the Christians who belong to the Christian religion) is the only religion that speaks about God accurately, even though many other religions understand some things about him accurately.
For example. The atheism religion has people who try to (unknowingly) set themselves up as God by proclaiming (falsely) that God doesn't exist. So, when they try to set themselves up as God, they proclaim that He exists. In addition, many of them understand certain factual science. They understand part of what God created. So, even they have some minor accuracy in their religion.
There are no proofs like that, trust me.
There are some things that we cannot explain/science can't but there are not any "miracles" where we can say that god really exists.
If we could, then i would not be a atheist ;P
There are some things that we cannot explain/science can't but there are not any "miracles" where we can say that god really exists.
If we could, then i would not be a atheist ;P
I believe there is a god in this life. because God is only one, that Allah SWT. there is no god but He.
Hm, as I recall badecker said tha tthere is only one true god and that that's cristian god... who's right here?
Two of my fingers smell like vagina this morning. That's an indisputable evolution of the smell on my fingers.
It's a very interesting and scientific fact, keep going!Scratch -n- sniff
Jesus taught me that trick.
I know that I'm god because every time I have my face buried in some sweet little furry beaver she starts screaming "oh god".
Is that before or after yu Scratch -n- sniff?
I believe there is a god in this life. because God is only one, that Allah SWT. there is no god but He.
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