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July 14, 2016, 03:03:10 AM
what is it that you really believe in? Not all prophets got it wrong. How do we know? Because God wants us to understand, so He sends us prophets with His Word.

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I think God is a supreme being; He is not human, not even close to being human. God does not "think" or have opinions like we do - God just "IS", and God is "Good".

In my opinion, religion gets it wrong when they think God expects something specific from us:

let's take Islam as an example: I dont believe God can be "pleased" for being worshipped 5 times a day, or not eating pork or throwing stones at homosexuals - I think these are human traits that we project on God. But God is not human - he doesn't care about specific things or specific people.

I also do not believe God talks back to us; so I dont think the Bible, the Torah or the Qran were divinely inspired; those are just tools made by humans to control the masses.

God peacefully "IS" "Good".

My humble opinion...

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July 13, 2016, 06:30:48 PM
interesting to see creationists intervening here, in a forum about Bitcoin - without science there would be no computers or internet.
Without God there would be no science... or anything else.



Carbon dating - indisputable and unquestionable.
Of course carbon dating exists and works. But nobody knows if there was any C-14 prior to 5,000 years ago or not. If there wasn't, all the carbon-dating dates would be off by at least millions or billions of years.



Just because all our Prophets and all our Holy Book writers got it wrong about many things doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It just means I will never follow a Holy Book, but I still believe in God.

You have a start there. But what is it that you really believe in? Not all prophets got it wrong. How do we know? Because God wants us to understand, so He sends us prophets with His Word.

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July 13, 2016, 06:19:10 PM
interesting to see creationists intervening here, in a forum about Bitcoin - without science there would be no computers or internet.

Carbon dating - indisputable and unquestionable.

Just because all our Prophets and all our Holy Book writers got it wrong about many things doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It just means I will never follow a Holy Book, but I still believe in God.
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July 13, 2016, 06:10:12 PM
being Muslim we have strong beleif that God is one. and there is no doubt about this.

Everyone who believe in god is sure that God is exists  Grin
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July 13, 2016, 03:51:04 AM
It does indeed seem that religion must have afforded an evolutionary advantage.

Yes, being religious stopped you from becoming burnt at the stake from other religious people. All the non-religious people got murdered, leaving only the religious ones.

Fortunately in civilised societies that has stopped now. Well.... for the time being anyway.

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July 13, 2016, 02:56:31 AM
We hypothesized that belief in the value of science as an institution and in its superiority as a source of knowledge can offer reassurance to secular individuals. As far as I’m concerned, the most interesting question about religion isn’t whether God exists but why so many people are religious. There are around 10,000 different religions, each of which is convinced that there’s only one Truth and that they alone possess it. API Research & Development It does indeed seem that religion must have afforded an evolutionary advantage.
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July 13, 2016, 02:26:24 AM
being Muslim we have strong beleif that God is one. and there is no doubt about this.

That'e because you are brainwashed, like the Christians.  If you didn't pray to your imaginary god 4 times a day, maybe your head would clear and you would accept reality.   Undecided
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July 13, 2016, 02:00:05 AM
being Muslim we have strong beleif that God is one. and there is no doubt about this.
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July 13, 2016, 01:10:33 AM
No matter how great the percentage of scientists that THINK theory is fact, theory isn't fact until it is proven to be fact. That's why it is called theory. This is why Big Bang and Black Hole Theory will remain theory. Neither will ever be proven to be fact.

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Thank you captain obvious for pointing out the obvious. I don't pretend it's anything different.
As long as you understand that Christian mythology is nothing more than blind speculation and don't pretend it's anything different, or worse, claiming it as fact, we'll both get on just dandy.
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July 12, 2016, 05:55:30 PM
One thing to watch out for from both camps when reading what they have to say is, they often use wording that assumes something. If they don't explain it completely and clearly, they are not the best source.

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LOL. Considering most of your posts contain some sort of assumption, maybe you're gonna wish you never posted the above quote.


That's okay, Fluffer. You simply happen to be one of the many people who don't understand the difference between factual science and science theory. No matter how great the percentage of scientists that THINK theory is fact, theory isn't fact until it is proven to be fact. That's why it is called theory. This is why Big Bang and Black Hole Theory will remain theory. Neither will ever be proven to be fact.

Makes for good sci-fi though. And you might even formally proclaim it a religion... science theory as fact, that is.

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July 12, 2016, 03:52:35 PM
One thing to watch out for from both camps when reading what they have to say is, they often use wording that assumes something. If they don't explain it completely and clearly, they are not the best source.

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LOL. Considering most of your posts contain some sort of assumption, maybe you're gonna wish you never posted the above quote.
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July 12, 2016, 03:18:44 PM




God, because there isn't anything else.    Cool
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44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults





When Charles Darwin popularized the theory of evolution, he didn’t actually have any evidence that it was true.  And since then the missing evidence has still not materialized.  Most Americans would be absolutely shocked to learn that most of what is taught as “truth” about evolution is actually the product of the overactive imaginations of members of the scientific community.  They so badly want to believe that it is true that they will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their fairy tale.  They keep insisting that the theory of evolution has been “proven” and that it is beyond debate.  Meanwhile, most average people sheeple are intimidated into accepting the “truth” about evolution because they don’t want to appear to be “stupid” to everyone else.


Read more at http://thetruthwins.com/archives/44-reasons-why-evolution-is-just-a-fairy-tale-for-adults.


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#2 When Charles Darwin came up with his theory, he admitted that no "transitional forms had been found at that time", but he believed that huge numbers certainly existed and would eventually be discovered…

Looks like darwin also wanted to "believe" ..

"I often had to run very quickly to be on time, and from being a fleet runner was generally successful; but when in doubt I prayed earnestly to God to help me, and I well remember that I attributed my success to the prayers and not to my quick running, and marvelled how generally I was aided."

-Charles Darwin




Next, note the evolutionist's use of the word "denier." This is a strong word, but why apply it to skeptics of the dogma that the world spontaneously arose? Evolutionists insist their idea is a scientific fact, and they fail to support this claim. In fact there are monumental scientific problems with this claim. Cannot people be skeptical without being labeled as a "denier"? If one wants to use the D word here, it would seem that those insisting evolution is a scientific fact are the ones who are in denial.


Thomas Huxley was a scientist and philosopher of the 19th century. He was most famous for his vehement defense of evolution as the source of earth's diverse life forms. He once said that he "protected" Darwin, referring to himself as "his bull dog." The moniker stuck, despite the philosophical and historical differences between the two men. Huxley was famed for some of his other exploits. Among these, his debate with Archbishop Samuel Wilberforce, his "progressive" philosophical work, and his supposed coining of the term "agnostic."

 

For anyone who is truly interested, there are many Internet sources that show logical flaws in evolution. Simply Google "evolution lies" or "evolution probability." Or you can think up other words to search for the debate between evolutionists and creationists.

One thing to watch out for from both camps when reading what they have to say is, they often use wording that assumes something. If they don't explain it completely and clearly, they are not the best source.

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July 11, 2016, 12:11:06 PM
However if you say god is my enemy, I have shown as THE creator, he is insignificant, for a mere human can change the way..                                                 
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July 12, 2016, 03:58:14 AM
44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults





When Charles Darwin popularized the theory of evolution, he didn’t actually have any evidence that it was true.  And since then the missing evidence has still not materialized.  Most Americans would be absolutely shocked to learn that most of what is taught as “truth” about evolution is actually the product of the overactive imaginations of members of the scientific community.  They so badly want to believe that it is true that they will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their fairy tale.  They keep insisting that the theory of evolution has been “proven” and that it is beyond debate.  Meanwhile, most average people sheeple are intimidated into accepting the “truth” about evolution because they don’t want to appear to be “stupid” to everyone else.


Read more at http://thetruthwins.com/archives/44-reasons-why-evolution-is-just-a-fairy-tale-for-adults.


Cool

#2 When Charles Darwin came up with his theory, he admitted that no "transitional forms had been found at that time", but he believed that huge numbers certainly existed and would eventually be discovered…

Looks like darwin also wanted to "believe" ..

"I often had to run very quickly to be on time, and from being a fleet runner was generally successful; but when in doubt I prayed earnestly to God to help me, and I well remember that I attributed my success to the prayers and not to my quick running, and marvelled how generally I was aided."

-Charles Darwin




Next, note the evolutionist's use of the word "denier." This is a strong word, but why apply it to skeptics of the dogma that the world spontaneously arose? Evolutionists insist their idea is a scientific fact, and they fail to support this claim. In fact there are monumental scientific problems with this claim. Cannot people be skeptical without being labeled as a "denier"? If one wants to use the D word here, it would seem that those insisting evolution is a scientific fact are the ones who are in denial.


Thomas Huxley was a scientist and philosopher of the 19th century. He was most famous for his vehement defense of evolution as the source of earth's diverse life forms. He once said that he "protected" Darwin, referring to himself as "his bull dog." The moniker stuck, despite the philosophical and historical differences between the two men. Huxley was famed for some of his other exploits. Among these, his debate with Archbishop Samuel Wilberforce, his "progressive" philosophical work, and his supposed coining of the term "agnostic."

 
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July 12, 2016, 01:52:35 AM
44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults





When Charles Darwin popularized the theory of evolution, he didn’t actually have any evidence that it was true.  And since then the missing evidence has still not materialized.  Most Americans would be absolutely shocked to learn that most of what is taught as “truth” about evolution is actually the product of the overactive imaginations of members of the scientific community.  They so badly want to believe that it is true that they will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their fairy tale.  They keep insisting that the theory of evolution has been “proven” and that it is beyond debate.  Meanwhile, most average people are intimidated into accepting the “truth” about evolution because they don’t want to appear to be “stupid” to everyone else.


Read more at http://thetruthwins.com/archives/44-reasons-why-evolution-is-just-a-fairy-tale-for-adults.


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July 12, 2016, 12:13:12 AM
Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

That's where good old trusty evolution kicks in. Life evolved to suit planet earth, not planet earth evolved to suit life.
Maybe on some distant planet, life has evolved in a hydrogen rich atmosphere. We simply don't know enough about the universe to give a firm no answer to this. We should keep our minds open


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July 11, 2016, 10:50:44 PM
Scientific proof that God exists,The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

So when we find another planet with liquid water, will you give up your fairy tale then?

What does liquid water have to do with it? Since we know of no way that life could appear without God doing it - evolution is mathematically impossible https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mathematical-impossibility-of-evolution-1454732 - until we find life out there, there is no way to know if it could exist out there or not. And we're barely off the ground practically speaking.

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July 11, 2016, 10:46:39 PM



Which has so much science theory in it that nobody knows if any of it is truth.    Cool
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