Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 242. (Read 845809 times)

Are you sure about that?  It seems to have worked on you...




The aphorismus, "there are no Atheists in foxholes", is really a backwards argument...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_no_atheists_in_foxholes#Notable_counterexamples

It assumes that everyone in a foxhole is hiding, praying to God to save their life...

The problem is... if Christians actually believed God would protect them from bullets, they would have no need for hiding in a foxhole... therefore, one can conclude, "there are no Christians in foxholes"... quite the opposite of your hypothesis (as always)

Newton's 3rd Law, action and reaction, applies to everything in the universe that people know about so far. Action and reaction are very similar to cause and effect. Everything in the universe exists because one or more things caused it to exist the way it does.

Whatever evolution is, all of the happenings of it were caused by other happenings. And those causes were caused by other causes. And those causes were caused by other causes... all the way back to when?

There is no random event that we know of in nature. Everything was caused by one or more other things causing it to happen or exist. This means that the common understanding of evolution is not true. Evolution requires random, spontaneous happenstance, which has never been seen in the universe, and virtually cannot happen.

Essentially, what cause and effect means is that the universe has been programmed by something. And whatever that something was, has caused extreme complexity, as we see all around us and within ourselves. We can't make this extreme complexity. We can't even manipulate it enough to cause ourselves to live much more than 100 years.

Because of the complexity, and especially the complexity of mind and brain, anything capable of programming this complexity through cause and effect, must have had complexity even greater. Why? Because our complexity isn't great enough to do the programming. As just stated, we are not even complex enough to program ourselves to live beyond about 100 years.

Whatever was complex enough to do the cause and effect programming that maintains the complexity we see in the universe, fits the definition/description of our word "God." We surely don't understand the Thing we call God. It is way beyond us. But the fact of the existence of the universe as it exists shows us that something far greater and more intelligent than the universe, and than mankind, exists.

You can only feel God. Just like gravity, it don't exist that you can see it. but you can feel it. try jumping from the 10th storey building and sure you know you've been pulled down.
Once you're on the ground after few seconds, you'll feel gravity. Thats kinda like God, you feel it when you're in the near death.. You should try jumping just maybe 5th floor.  

As of now, there is no scientific proof that god exists. However, I think the current scientific knowledge we have is enough to show that God does not exist, or at least that certain stories of God could not be possible, such as the belief of Adam and Eve. There is enough scientific evidence to prove that evolution has been and is currently taking place.

it is a matter of faith, not science. Maybe science can proof something in the future, but it is still not possible today.

You might be right if there were not quantity, quality, and complexity in the things around us... and if science had not already proven the existence of God as shown in my previous post in this thread.

"God is scientifically explained because there are things in the world around us" is not an explanation. At least not a scientific one.
Now if you really do have a scientific explanation for God, then please - I'm the first one to listen to it more than carefully.

Without God Existence, how come the whole world is running.

The laws of science as we know them, that prove that God exists, do not really say anything about what He is. They DO show that He is intelligent and smart beyond understanding. But they only suggest that He is One Being. They don't prove it... at least as far as I know.

Everything operates by cause and effect. This means that there is really nothing random. This means that everything is pre-programmed. This almost proves God by itself.

Another thing that almost proves God alone is, we don't see anything that can make the complexity around us. Anything that can cause the complexity we see in mankind and the universe, must be more complex. There is nothing in nature where something more complex comes from something less complex. When we combine simple atoms into complex molecules, it is the complexity that we are that is doing it.

Entropy shows that everything is trying to equalize throughout the universe. Mountains erode into the valleys. Valleys fill up to meet the reducing mountains at the level of the plain. All the energy and material in the universe is doing this in one way or another... dissipating to equalize throughout the whole space-time continuum. We see nothing that causes any greatness without greater reduction of itself to make the greatness that it makes.

Something was great enough that it could set the cause and effect into place with such complexity in the face of all-pervading entropy. Such thing fits our definitions of the word "God."

Right, God is in our minds and hearts, no one can practically or scientifically prove that God exists as no one have seen God in real life.

Right! Big Bang Theory will always be a theory. Why? Because even if people actually prove that the Big Bang could have really happened, that's still a long way off from proving that it did.

God maybe the missing link as to why science haven't figured out yet how the universe started.

Nobody can force another to believe in God. Even for-real brainwashing doesn't stick. But in the foxholes... In times of great pain, fear, joy, or pleasure, all but a very few people acknowledge God. It is our nature to recognize God without proof.

When you understand the scientific proof that shows that God exists, this doesn't mean you have to accept it. However, once you understand the scientific proof, in times of great pain, fear, joy, or pleasure, you will cry out to God with open arms.

Yeah, right - nuggets. Still, you people with the flat earth and God exists and other propaganda should let people decide for themselves.

Prove or quit it. No one has seen God, heard God etc.
Interesting how something that no one can prove exists. Where? How?

It's kinda like if you and I walked into a hidden valley that nobody had ever visited before. And there on the floor of the valley were fist-sized and larger gold nuggets. And I said, "Wow! There's gold all over the place around here." And you said, "Naw. There's only these dumb yellow colored rocks."

It's not a matter of approving or disapproving - it's a matter of common sense.
A being that has all of it's attributes at the superlative and without limits?
This would make a great sequel for the X-men movie.

Science is working to prove the existence of God but not enough and  came up with some facts but not enough to totally prove that there is really one supreme creator. As of now, God cannot be proven or disproven, it's up for one person to believe or not.

People also believe in UFO's but I haven't seen one of those either. As I was saying - people believe many stupid things and most of them are BS.

The fact is that the ground under your feet exists. You know it by the irrefutable evidence produced by your senses when you see it and feel it under your feet.

You have faith that your area isn't going to have an earthquake today. Your experience tells you that it will not happen. But you don't know for sure, because there are other things that have happened in life that you weren't expecting.

Knowing that God exists by the fact that His existence has been scientifically proven is fact. Believing that God will do this or that is faith.