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January 25, 2016, 01:13:33 PM
We're here. That's proof. But what you're asking is scientific proof. Science only deals with the natural. When it comes to the supernatural, science is powerless. Believing or disbelieving in God is an act of faith
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January 25, 2016, 12:22:35 PM
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101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

 Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html


Which is it?  Common sense or scientific.  Your title says one and the OP says another.
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January 25, 2016, 12:21:16 PM
If science can prove God's existence, God will be a fact not simply an idea - but I won't hold my breath for that to happen soon. And I'm being optimistic when I say this.

Simple, basic proof is in the post directly above the one quoted here.

God is fact. That's why billions of people around the world believe in Him. The things that are not always fact are the attributes applied to Him.

Faith is stronger if it has some fact tied to it. If this wasn't so, science theory wouldn't have any strength at all.

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January 25, 2016, 12:02:40 PM
If science can prove God's existence, God will be a fact not simply an idea - but I won't hold my breath for that to happen soon. And I'm being optimistic when I say this.
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January 25, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
Just a thought..

If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
People are very diverse. If you really mean "everyone," probably not. As you can see right in this thread, some people attempt to ignore the proof when it is set right in front of them... which it is in this thread and others.


Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.

The need for a god is universal. The reason for this is that nobody knows for a fact what is going to happen to him in life, even only one minute from now. Nobody knows anything about the future for sure.

The idea of a god suggests to people that there is something that is controlling their lives for their benefit... they hope. That's why atheists accept all kinds of science theory as fact when it isn't fact. They are looking for a god even though they don't realize it. They have no other hope. And they need hope to remain outside of despair, so that they don't commit suicide, which thing they are afraid to do, just like they are afraid to formally admit that God exists.

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You have provided absolutely no proof at all. You've just spouted the same nonsense that any little boy raping Catholic priest vomits out to frighten his victims.

You are right that emotionally weak people need something to believe in to keep them off the edge of the building. That's what Voltaire is talking about when he said, if God didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him.

Just because you can't think your way through God's existence being proven by combining:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Entropy;
doesn't mean that the proof isn't there.

You will have even greater trouble understanding the proof, simply because you don't want to understand.

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January 25, 2016, 11:09:36 AM
Just a thought..

If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
People are very diverse. If you really mean "everyone," probably not. As you can see right in this thread, some people attempt to ignore the proof when it is set right in front of them... which it is in this thread and others.


Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.

The need for a god is universal. The reason for this is that nobody knows for a fact what is going to happen to him in life, even only one minute from now. Nobody knows anything about the future for sure.

The idea of a god suggests to people that there is something that is controlling their lives for their benefit... they hope. That's why atheists accept all kinds of science theory as fact when it isn't fact. They are looking for a god even though they don't realize it. They have no other hope. And they need hope to remain outside of despair, so that they don't commit suicide, which thing they are afraid to do, just like they are afraid to formally admit that God exists.

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You have provided absolutely no proof at all. You've just spouted the same nonsense that any little boy raping Catholic priest vomits out to frighten his victims.

You are right that emotionally weak people need something to believe in to keep them off the edge of the building. That's what Voltaire is talking about when he said, if God didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him.
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January 25, 2016, 10:29:29 AM
Just a thought..

If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
People are very diverse. If you really mean "everyone," probably not. As you can see right in this thread, some people attempt to ignore the proof when it is set right in front of them... which it is in this thread and others.


Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.

The need for a god is universal. The reason for this is that nobody knows for a fact what is going to happen to him in life, even only one minute from now. Nobody knows anything about the future for sure.

The idea of a god suggests to people that there is something that is controlling their lives for their benefit... they hope. That's why atheists accept all kinds of science theory as fact when it isn't fact. They are looking for a god even though they don't realize it. They have no other hope. And they need hope to remain outside of despair, so that they don't commit suicide, which thing they are afraid to do, just like they are afraid to formally admit that God exists.

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January 25, 2016, 10:16:48 AM
Just a thought..

If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?

Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.
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January 24, 2016, 08:30:13 PM
science cannot prove God does exist since science does not believe in the concept of faith. you can't see any science book explaining faith/God since it always find physical evidence to prove one's existence.


Science proves the existence of God. But people can deny any proof that they don't like. They have the ability to do this.

The thing that science doesn't prove easily, is knowledge about the characteristics of God. In fact, science doesn't prove whether or not God is a Being that is sexually aligned, personally. Science hasn't proven that God is One, although there is some evidence for that. Certainly science hasn't proved or even found out what God thinks about people.

All the things that science HASN'T proven about God, are things that people might have faith in God for. But science HAS proven the existence of God.

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January 24, 2016, 08:20:38 PM
Everything that happens in our lives is possible due to science. Science cannot prove God exists because God doesn't exist. Simple as that.

Everything that happens in our lives works through scientific happening. Science proves God. God made and upholds science and the universe.

Scientists prove that they are wrong when they express that science doesn't prove the existence of God. They prove it by dying after 50 to 100 years of life. God lives on.

Simple as that.

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January 24, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Everything that happens in our lives is possible due to science. Science cannot prove God exists because God doesn't exist. Simple as that.
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January 24, 2016, 04:15:20 AM
science cannot prove God does exist since science does not believe in the concept of faith. you can't see any science book explaining faith/God since it always find physical evidence to prove one's existence.
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January 24, 2016, 04:02:05 AM
I think god doesn't exist.
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January 23, 2016, 02:42:41 PM
The science is always against religion. The scientists are always devotees of God. They begin their scientific works after praying God. They also pray for the success of researches.Scientists, philosophers and atheists have long argued that God and spirituality are constructs of the human mind, although that opinion generally hasn't been a popular one. After centuries of bloody holy wars and fierce theological dispute, the controversy of the Creator's existence has taken a strange new turn: humanity may finally have uncovered tangible evidence that the phenomenon of religious faith is all in our heads.

People have faith even when they don't realize they have faith. We indians have a lot and lots of proof scientifically and Mahavishnu's Dasavatara is a scientific proof followed by darwin.


Proof not need faith. Only partial proof and no proof need faith. Proof = fact. Proof/fact known. Need no faith.

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January 22, 2016, 03:02:53 PM
The science is always against religion. The scientists are always devotees of God. They begin their scientific works after praying God. They also pray for the success of researches.Scientists, philosophers and atheists have long argued that God and spirituality are constructs of the human mind, although that opinion generally hasn't been a popular one. After centuries of bloody holy wars and fierce theological dispute, the controversy of the Creator's existence has taken a strange new turn: humanity may finally have uncovered tangible evidence that the phenomenon of religious faith is all in our heads.

People have faith even when they don't realize they have faith. We indians have a lot and lots of proof scientifically and Mahavishnu's Dasavatara is a scientific proof followed by darwin.
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January 22, 2016, 01:56:02 PM
Can science proof that God exists? I suppose this is a wrong question in some sort of way. The famous paraphrase of a Tertullian's statement ("I believe because it is absurd."), I suppose, shows us the main point of religion. God needs to be transcendent. Otherwise He is not a God at all. In "The Future of an Illusion" Freud explains that religion is something that helps to deal with the problems our ratio can't solve. Religion HAS to be unscientific, because it is another way to see the world. When you are not satisfied with smth science leads you to - you come to religion. If science proofs that God exists then God can't calm you down when you are upset by rational thinking anymore.

That's a pretty rational argument. It's close to Voltaire's statement in his epistle to the author of the book, The Three Impostors".

"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."

If God did not exist, it would be impossible to invent Him. Why? Because nothing, including nothing itself, would exist.

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January 22, 2016, 10:56:36 AM
Can science proof that God exists? I suppose this is a wrong question in some sort of way. The famous paraphrase of a Tertullian's statement ("I believe because it is absurd."), I suppose, shows us the main point of religion. God needs to be transcendent. Otherwise He is not a God at all. In "The Future of an Illusion" Freud explains that religion is something that helps to deal with the problems our ratio can't solve. Religion HAS to be unscientific, because it is another way to see the world. When you are not satisfied with smth science leads you to - you come to religion. If science proofs that God exists then God can't calm you down when you are upset by rational thinking anymore.

That's a pretty rational argument. It's close to Voltaire's statement in his epistle to the author of the book, The Three Impostors".

"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."
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January 22, 2016, 09:48:12 AM
Can science proof that God exists? I suppose this is a wrong question in some sort of way. The famous paraphrase of a Tertullian's statement ("I believe because it is absurd."), I suppose, shows us the main point of religion. God needs to be transcendent. Otherwise He is not a God at all. In "The Future of an Illusion" Freud explains that religion is something that helps to deal with the problems our ratio can't solve. Religion HAS to be unscientific, because it is another way to see the world. When you are not satisfied with smth science leads you to - you come to religion. If science proofs that God exists then God can't calm you down when you are upset by rational thinking anymore.
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January 14, 2016, 08:58:31 PM
There is no evidence or proof that God exists and won't be. Sorry guys, this is what fact is.

Then who built the dome that covers the planet? I think the artificially constructed nickel-iron steel dome above our heads is some fairly good scientific proof.

But please, don't lets facts get in the way of your faith in the belief that we're an insignificant accident of nature created by chance on spinning globe hurting through space.
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January 14, 2016, 07:32:34 PM
There is no evidence or proof that God exists and won't be. Sorry guys, this is what fact is.
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