Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 247. (Read 845582 times)
If science can prove God's existence, God will be a fact not simply an idea - but I won't hold my breath for that to happen soon. And I'm being optimistic when I say this.
Just a thought..
If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
People are very diverse. If you really mean "everyone," probably not. As you can see right in this thread, some people attempt to ignore the proof when it is set right in front of them... which it is in this thread and others.If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.
The need for a god is universal. The reason for this is that nobody knows for a fact what is going to happen to him in life, even only one minute from now. Nobody knows anything about the future for sure.
The idea of a god suggests to people that there is something that is controlling their lives for their benefit... they hope. That's why atheists accept all kinds of science theory as fact when it isn't fact. They are looking for a god even though they don't realize it. They have no other hope. And they need hope to remain outside of despair, so that they don't commit suicide, which thing they are afraid to do, just like they are afraid to formally admit that God exists.
You have provided absolutely no proof at all. You've just spouted the same nonsense that any little boy raping Catholic priest vomits out to frighten his victims.
You are right that emotionally weak people need something to believe in to keep them off the edge of the building. That's what Voltaire is talking about when he said, if God didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him.
Just because you can't think your way through God's existence being proven by combining:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Entropy;
doesn't mean that the proof isn't there.
You will have even greater trouble understanding the proof, simply because you don't want to understand.
Just a thought..
If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
People are very diverse. If you really mean "everyone," probably not. As you can see right in this thread, some people attempt to ignore the proof when it is set right in front of them... which it is in this thread and others.If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.
The need for a god is universal. The reason for this is that nobody knows for a fact what is going to happen to him in life, even only one minute from now. Nobody knows anything about the future for sure.
The idea of a god suggests to people that there is something that is controlling their lives for their benefit... they hope. That's why atheists accept all kinds of science theory as fact when it isn't fact. They are looking for a god even though they don't realize it. They have no other hope. And they need hope to remain outside of despair, so that they don't commit suicide, which thing they are afraid to do, just like they are afraid to formally admit that God exists.
You have provided absolutely no proof at all. You've just spouted the same nonsense that any little boy raping Catholic priest vomits out to frighten his victims.
You are right that emotionally weak people need something to believe in to keep them off the edge of the building. That's what Voltaire is talking about when he said, if God didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him.
Just a thought..
If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
People are very diverse. If you really mean "everyone," probably not. As you can see right in this thread, some people attempt to ignore the proof when it is set right in front of them... which it is in this thread and others.If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.
The need for a god is universal. The reason for this is that nobody knows for a fact what is going to happen to him in life, even only one minute from now. Nobody knows anything about the future for sure.
The idea of a god suggests to people that there is something that is controlling their lives for their benefit... they hope. That's why atheists accept all kinds of science theory as fact when it isn't fact. They are looking for a god even though they don't realize it. They have no other hope. And they need hope to remain outside of despair, so that they don't commit suicide, which thing they are afraid to do, just like they are afraid to formally admit that God exists.
Just a thought..
If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.
If science was able to prove God's existence. Will it seriously inspire faith for everyone?
Guess we should really convince ourselves first, ask ourselves first, the need for a god and the idea of having one before we ever even try to prove it. And just perhaps proving won't be the solution to our answers.
science cannot prove God does exist since science does not believe in the concept of faith. you can't see any science book explaining faith/God since it always find physical evidence to prove one's existence.
Science proves the existence of God. But people can deny any proof that they don't like. They have the ability to do this.
The thing that science doesn't prove easily, is knowledge about the characteristics of God. In fact, science doesn't prove whether or not God is a Being that is sexually aligned, personally. Science hasn't proven that God is One, although there is some evidence for that. Certainly science hasn't proved or even found out what God thinks about people.
All the things that science HASN'T proven about God, are things that people might have faith in God for. But science HAS proven the existence of God.
Everything that happens in our lives is possible due to science. Science cannot prove God exists because God doesn't exist. Simple as that.
Everything that happens in our lives works through scientific happening. Science proves God. God made and upholds science and the universe.
Scientists prove that they are wrong when they express that science doesn't prove the existence of God. They prove it by dying after 50 to 100 years of life. God lives on.
Simple as that.
Everything that happens in our lives is possible due to science. Science cannot prove God exists because God doesn't exist. Simple as that.
science cannot prove God does exist since science does not believe in the concept of faith. you can't see any science book explaining faith/God since it always find physical evidence to prove one's existence.
I think god doesn't exist.
The science is always against religion. The scientists are always devotees of God. They begin their scientific works after praying God. They also pray for the success of researches.Scientists, philosophers and atheists have long argued that God and spirituality are constructs of the human mind, although that opinion generally hasn't been a popular one. After centuries of bloody holy wars and fierce theological dispute, the controversy of the Creator's existence has taken a strange new turn: humanity may finally have uncovered tangible evidence that the phenomenon of religious faith is all in our heads.
People have faith even when they don't realize they have faith. We indians have a lot and lots of proof scientifically and Mahavishnu's Dasavatara is a scientific proof followed by darwin.
People have faith even when they don't realize they have faith. We indians have a lot and lots of proof scientifically and Mahavishnu's Dasavatara is a scientific proof followed by darwin.
Proof not need faith. Only partial proof and no proof need faith. Proof = fact. Proof/fact known. Need no faith.
The science is always against religion. The scientists are always devotees of God. They begin their scientific works after praying God. They also pray for the success of researches.Scientists, philosophers and atheists have long argued that God and spirituality are constructs of the human mind, although that opinion generally hasn't been a popular one. After centuries of bloody holy wars and fierce theological dispute, the controversy of the Creator's existence has taken a strange new turn: humanity may finally have uncovered tangible evidence that the phenomenon of religious faith is all in our heads.
People have faith even when they don't realize they have faith. We indians have a lot and lots of proof scientifically and Mahavishnu's Dasavatara is a scientific proof followed by darwin.
People have faith even when they don't realize they have faith. We indians have a lot and lots of proof scientifically and Mahavishnu's Dasavatara is a scientific proof followed by darwin.
Can science proof that God exists? I suppose this is a wrong question in some sort of way. The famous paraphrase of a Tertullian's statement ("I believe because it is absurd."), I suppose, shows us the main point of religion. God needs to be transcendent. Otherwise He is not a God at all. In "The Future of an Illusion" Freud explains that religion is something that helps to deal with the problems our ratio can't solve. Religion HAS to be unscientific, because it is another way to see the world. When you are not satisfied with smth science leads you to - you come to religion. If science proofs that God exists then God can't calm you down when you are upset by rational thinking anymore.
That's a pretty rational argument. It's close to Voltaire's statement in his epistle to the author of the book, The Three Impostors".
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."
If God did not exist, it would be impossible to invent Him. Why? Because nothing, including nothing itself, would exist.
Can science proof that God exists? I suppose this is a wrong question in some sort of way. The famous paraphrase of a Tertullian's statement ("I believe because it is absurd."), I suppose, shows us the main point of religion. God needs to be transcendent. Otherwise He is not a God at all. In "The Future of an Illusion" Freud explains that religion is something that helps to deal with the problems our ratio can't solve. Religion HAS to be unscientific, because it is another way to see the world. When you are not satisfied with smth science leads you to - you come to religion. If science proofs that God exists then God can't calm you down when you are upset by rational thinking anymore.
That's a pretty rational argument. It's close to Voltaire's statement in his epistle to the author of the book, The Three Impostors".
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."
Can science proof that God exists? I suppose this is a wrong question in some sort of way. The famous paraphrase of a Tertullian's statement ("I believe because it is absurd."), I suppose, shows us the main point of religion. God needs to be transcendent. Otherwise He is not a God at all. In "The Future of an Illusion" Freud explains that religion is something that helps to deal with the problems our ratio can't solve. Religion HAS to be unscientific, because it is another way to see the world. When you are not satisfied with smth science leads you to - you come to religion. If science proofs that God exists then God can't calm you down when you are upset by rational thinking anymore.
There is no evidence or proof that God exists and won't be. Sorry guys, this is what fact is.
Then who built the dome that covers the planet? I think the artificially constructed nickel-iron steel dome above our heads is some fairly good scientific proof.
But please, don't lets facts get in the way of your faith in the belief that we're an insignificant accident of nature created by chance on spinning globe hurting through space.
There is no evidence or proof that God exists and won't be. Sorry guys, this is what fact is.
Gods perfect design went a little wrong when he made those babies. Maybe He's not perfect after all.
An enemy did this. The enemy is the one who introduced death into the people. Of course, it was through deception which the people accepted rather than obeying God. So, it is also the fault of the people, not God.
There is someone who i listen to on Tv which he discuss about GOd. and he sad God kills and heals.
if he kill people then there must be reasons, it could be because he may not want to punish more by allowing someone to live with all the things on his shoulder or maybe god just let him die becuase he don't want this someone to suffer skin diseases while at age 60+. he kills babies as well after all babies belongs to heaven.. not sure if you will believe him but somehow i do.
No way...
I should be scientific proof God never exist...
I should be scientific proof God never exist...
In general, I totally agree with you. But until you brought it up just now, this hadn't been in our conversation.
When you look through the Bible in a little more detail, you see that it is an advanced document, way advanced beyond any other religious or philosophical documents we have. In addition, the miracles reported on are in advance of anything that we can scientifically do.
An advanced document?
Not only is the Christian bible not a "good book" it probably the worst written diatribe against humanity I've ever read. It's choppy, fails to make complete points, different sections contradict each other, sections are obviously written to control the ancient societies through fear, it tells stories similar in nature to what a preschooler might make up, at best it's nonsensical and at worst it's a complete tissue of lies added to by every ruler that's decided to retranslate it for 2000 years.
If you want to read a really good book from ancient history try The Republic by Plato or Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu.
Well, it's too bad you feel that way. Too bad for you, that is. These feelings will probably keep you from being saved for eternal life. It's the one thing that God even made this whole universe and life for... salvation for all who come to His Son, Jesus. And this is the thing that the Bible talks about.
Oh well. Your choice.
No worries, I look horrible in white anyway. Red has always been my color.
I do believe in Jesus btw. I believe he lived. I believe he worked as a carpenter. I believe he hung out with a lot of prostitutes. I believe he was a political activist against an oppressive system. I believe he was charismatic. I believe he had a lot of groupies. I believe he was a talented magician. I believe he was a skilled orator and storyteller.
See, I believe in Jesus.
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