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legendary
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May 08, 2015, 01:26:17 PM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

So it's "worship me or I kill you and you'll burn in hell!"

Isn't that exactly like the abusive husband that tells his wife he'll kill her if she leaves (is against) him?

We don't put up with that kind of behavior in society, why would we put up with it in religion?  Give a strong NO! to your god and go to a shelter (aka education).

Luckily, more and more people are doing that in record numbers every day.  Smiley

Furthermore, with the flood he destroyed almost everyone, so he either thought everyone was against him wich is stupid because probably 90% of people didnt even know he existed (if he did) or he just likes to kill people.

...or HE DOESNT EXIST.

The flood happened around 1,600 years after the creation. Everyone knew about God from their ancestors. They simply ignored Him, same thing that is going on today.

God reads the hearts of all people. They are easier for Him to read that an open book. The wickedness of the people revolved not only around their denial of God, but it included all the different ways that people can harm each other. In fact, because the earth was much newer than it is now, the people (who often lived hundreds of years) could think a lot better than we can think now. They probably developed methods for doing wickedness that we can't even imagine.

God made people. He doesn't want them to be destroyed. But, since He is a giving God (look at all the good things He gives to people), finally He will give wicked people what they ask for... the results of their wickedness... destruction.

Regarding what is going on today, Jesus mentioned a list of things that would happen at the time in which He returned. One of the things He said was:
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As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

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legendary
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May 08, 2015, 01:18:03 PM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

So it's "worship me or I kill you and you'll burn in hell!"

Isn't that exactly like the abusive husband that tells his wife he'll kill (destroy) her if she leaves (is against) him?

We don't put up with that kind of behavior in society, why would we put up with it in religion?  Give a strong NO! to your god and go to a shelter (aka get an education).

Luckily, more and more people are doing that in record numbers every day.  Smiley

No, it's worship God because that is what mankind was made for.

If you have a garden tool that breaks, you might fix it, or at least attempt to. If you find out that trying to fix it is taking longer than it would take to buy a new one, you throw the broken one in the trash.

God is putting up with your kind of behavior regarding Him and religion, because it is His way of trying to mend you, a broken tool. If you won't let Him fix you, He doesn't really have any use for you. Into the trash of Hell you go.

Smiley

Punishing people for all eternity is vindictive like a spoiled child. He could just wipe the slate clean and start the sand box over again. I don't beat my hard drive with a hammer and burn it up when the OS stops working. I erase it and start over.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 01:11:35 PM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

So it's "worship me or I kill you and you'll burn in hell!"

Isn't that exactly like the abusive husband that tells his wife he'll kill (destroy) her if she leaves (is against) him?

We don't put up with that kind of behavior in society, why would we put up with it in religion?  Give a strong NO! to your god and go to a shelter (aka get an education).

Luckily, more and more people are doing that in record numbers every day.  Smiley

No, it's worship God because that is what mankind was made for.

If you have a garden tool that breaks, you might fix it, or at least attempt to. If you find out that trying to fix it is taking longer than it would take to buy a new one, you throw the broken one in the trash.

God is putting up with your kind of behavior regarding Him and religion, because it is His way of trying to mend you, a broken tool. If you won't let Him fix you, He doesn't really have any use for you. Into the trash of Hell you go.

Smiley
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 01:05:40 PM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

Err no, I've never noticed that one.

I have noticed, however, that man is eager to destroy/kill those that are against religion.


People who destroy other people in the name of religion, if they don't have God's direct command to do so (which they don't in this modern day and age), they are doing wrong.

At times Islam uses the threat of death to force someone into their religion. This is absolutely the wrong way to do things. An infinitely better way is to invite, showing the advantages of joining, and the disadvantages for not joining, and then letting the person make up his own mind.

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legendary
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May 08, 2015, 01:00:51 PM
He hasn't killed vod Grin. The world is plentiful of sinners and evil people but nothing happens to them. Meanwhile innocent babies die of horrible diseases. Saying god punishes those who are against him seem to be a bit of a cop out to me.

I killed god when I was 12 and realized he didn't exist.  All I had to do was run away from home Sunday mornings for a few months and when the brainwashed ebbed away I was able to see it was just BS they repeated to me over and over again each week.  (P.S.  I always came home in the afternoon!)

BADecker's imaginary god has no power over me.  He can have his fun now, for we all rot together in the ground later, no matter what we believe.   Wink

I urge BADecker, if he is still able to understand common sense, to try stepping away from the constant brainwashing he subjects himself to every week.  He'll be amazed at the real world if he just takes his head out of the sand.



No, you didn't kill God. You only weakened a portion of yourself that lets you recognize God. That part of you is still there. You can revitalize it if you desire. But if you don't turn back by the time you die in this earthly life, you will wind up dying in the eternity of the hereafter. And that won't be fun.

Am I trying to scare you? Why would I be trying to scare you? It doesn't benefit me in any way to care if you go to Hell or not. I get nothing from either you salvation or destruction. I am simply playing the forum game, and posting words, just like everyone else is.

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legendary
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May 08, 2015, 12:55:01 PM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him. The whole world was filled with people who were all wicked and evil, except for Noah and his family. God saved Noah and his family, but destroyed the evil wickedness.

It's kinda fun watching you condemn yourself along with the rest of the wicked, evil people.

Smiley

He hasn't killed vod Grin. The world is plentiful of sinners and evil people but nothing happens to them. Meanwhile innocent babies die of horrible diseases. Saying god punishes those who are against him seem to be a bit of a cop out to me.

Haven't you noticed? We are all already dead. It's in the genes.

The way God kills isn't the thing that we do by killing. We go out and actually do something to somebody to cause him to die. God does it differently. Here's how He does it.

We are all held alive by God. Those who reject Him are essentially pushing life away from themselves. God fights against us by keeping us alive even though we attempt to push Him - life - away from ourselves. After a time He gets tired of fighting with us and lets us go.

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legendary
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May 08, 2015, 12:46:15 PM
BADecker you'll be happy to know that I found Jesus!








He was in a bar downtown for three days. His wife was pissed and my lawn needs to be mowed again.

Well, he always was fond of the old booze you know. Water into wine and all that.

Yeah, that whole water into wine thing always amused me. Why wouldn't he turn water into something the locals couldn't ever hope to get without Gods help. I mean he's God right, he could have turned water into 12 year old scotch, ultra-premium daiginjo sake or the finest blue agave tequila. Instead he turns it into the common dinner drink of everyone in the region. I would be seriously impressed of the bible referenced ultra-premium daiginjo sake.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 10:57:07 AM
BADecker you'll be happy to know that I found Jesus!








He was in a bar downtown for three days. His wife was pissed and my lawn needs to be mowed again.

Well, he always was fond of the old booze you know. Water into wine and all that.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
May 08, 2015, 10:49:11 AM
BADecker you'll be happy to know that I found Jesus!








He was in a bar downtown for three days. His wife was pissed and my lawn needs to be mowed again.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 09:56:52 AM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

A god that rules by anger and fear, is not worthy of my worship.

He must fear me, because I'm still here, not destroyed.

hero member
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May 08, 2015, 08:41:02 AM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

So it's "worship me or I kill you and you'll burn in hell!"

Isn't that exactly like the abusive husband that tells his wife he'll kill her if she leaves (is against) him?

We don't put up with that kind of behavior in society, why would we put up with it in religion?  Give a strong NO! to your god and go to a shelter (aka education).

Luckily, more and more people are doing that in record numbers every day.  Smiley

Furthermore, with the flood he destroyed almost everyone, so he either thought everyone was against him wich is stupid because probably 90% of people didnt even know he existed (if he did) or he just likes to kill people.

...or HE DOESNT EXIST.
Vod
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

So it's "worship me or I kill you and you'll burn in hell!"

Isn't that exactly like the abusive husband that tells his wife he'll kill (destroy) her if she leaves (is against) him?

We don't put up with that kind of behavior in society, why would we put up with it in religion?  Give a strong NO! to your god and go to a shelter (aka get an education).

Luckily, more and more people are doing that in record numbers every day.  Smiley
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
May 08, 2015, 08:22:55 AM
I have noticed, however, that man is eager to destroy/kill those that are against religion.

legendary
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May 08, 2015, 08:19:49 AM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him.

Err no, I've never noticed that one.

I have noticed, however, that man is eager to destroy/kill those that are against religion.
Vod
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 07:58:27 AM
He hasn't killed vod Grin. The world is plentiful of sinners and evil people but nothing happens to them. Meanwhile innocent babies die of horrible diseases. Saying god punishes those who are against him seem to be a bit of a cop out to me.

I killed god when I was 12 and realized he didn't exist.  All I had to do was run away from home Sunday mornings for a few months and when the brainwashed ebbed away I was able to see it was just BS they repeated to me over and over again each week.  (P.S.  I always came home in the afternoon!)

BADecker's imaginary god has no power over me.  He can have his fun now, for we all rot together in the ground later, no matter what we believe.   Wink

I urge BADecker, if he is still able to understand common sense, to try stepping away from the constant brainwashing he subjects himself to every week.  He'll be amazed at the real world if he just takes his head out of the sand.

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May 08, 2015, 07:56:06 AM
Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him. The whole world was filled with people who were all wicked and evil, except for Noah and his family. God saved Noah and his family, but destroyed the evil wickedness.

It's kinda fun watching you condemn yourself along with the rest of the wicked, evil people.

Smiley

He hasn't killed vod Grin. The world is plentiful of sinners and evil people but nothing happens to them. Meanwhile innocent babies die of horrible diseases. Saying god punishes those who are against him seem to be a bit of a cop out to me.
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 07:30:32 AM
Edit: By the way, I still disagree with you about a "jealous/wrathful God"; God is love, and you have called my God the Devil without even so much as pointing out where God's messenger is telling you to do evil.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

Do you deny the christian belief that your imaginary god collected all the animals on earth into a big boat for over a year, and maliciously killed everyone else?

Your god is evil - he has killed a lot of people bro (almost 3 million by the text of your holy book) - he needs anxiety medication (made by humans btw).   Undecided

BTW - your same holy book says the devil has killed 10 (yep - ten) lol!

Notice that the God of the Bible only destroys those who are against Him. The whole world was filled with people who were all wicked and evil, except for Noah and his family. God saved Noah and his family, but destroyed the evil wickedness.

It's kinda fun watching you condemn yourself along with the rest of the wicked, evil people.

Smiley
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
May 08, 2015, 07:24:01 AM
Edit: By the way, I still disagree with you about a "jealous/wrathful God"; God is love, and you have called my God the Devil without even so much as pointing out where God's messenger is telling you to do evil.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

Do you deny the christian belief that your imaginary god collected all the animals on earth into a big boat for over a year, and maliciously killed everyone else?

Your god is evil - he has killed a lot of people bro (almost 3 million by the text of your holy book) - he needs anxiety medication (made by humans btw).   Undecided

BTW - your same holy book says the devil has killed 10 (yep - ten) lol!
legendary
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May 08, 2015, 07:21:15 AM
You are right that the Bible does not make some distinctions and is missing a lot of neeeed commentary; in my opinion this makes the Bible unclear. I point you to Phoenix Journals for a comprehensive text that discloses truth and news/history in literal/rational language of discourse and teaching suitable for this day and age.

Edit: By the way, I still disagree with you about a "jealous/wrathful God"; God is love, and you have called my God the Devil without even so much as pointing out where God's messenger is telling you to do evil.

Hurt your itty bitty feelings, did I? I explained it to you in the past, but I will do it briefly again.

If the Phoenix Journals had been written prior to the time of Jesus (prior to about 2,000 years ago), and if they had been Hebrew writings, then they would either be part of the Old Testament, or they would not... as judged by the people of Israel, the leaders of Israel, and the priests and prophets of Israel... who would have determined their position within, or outside of the Old Testament according to the instructions for determining such things given by Moses in books 2 thru 5 of the Old Testament.

If the Phoenix Journals had been written during the time that the New Testament was written, they would have been included in the Bible by the Council of Nicea if they were worthy.

Since the Revelation in the New Testament says that nothing is to be added to or subtracted from the book of Revelation, if the Phoenix Journals were written following the time of the New Testament (following the time of the Revelation), they would essentially be additions to the Revelation, because the Revelation covers all the Word of God from the time it was written to the entry into the New Heavens and the New Earth after this universe destroyed.

If the Phoenix Journals were part of the Word of God, they would not contradict the Bible in any way. If they were written by a man or men, they would be the Word of God only if they fit the descriptions in one of the above paragraphs. If they were done through some form of automatic writing, they fall into the classification of divination and witchcraft and are directly from the devil; Moses outlawed such in the Old Testament.

Several different things that you have told me about the Phoenix Journals in the past show that they are NOT part of God's Word according to the things written above. Since you told me that they claim to be God's Word, if they truly claim this, then they are lies, and are against the Bible, the only Word of God. That means that they are from the devil, just like the writings of Islam are.

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May 07, 2015, 08:47:07 PM
You are right that the Bible does not make some distinctions and is missing a lot of neeeed commentary; in my opinion this makes the Bible unclear. I point you to Phoenix Journals for a comprehensive text that discloses truth and news/history in literal/rational language of discourse and teaching suitable for this day and age.

Edit: By the way, I still disagree with you about a "jealous/wrathful God"; God is love, and you have called my God the Devil without even so much as pointing out where God's messenger is telling you to do evil.
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