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legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:54:03 PM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley

What's this got to do with my last statement? Your rambling.

Do I have to literally spell it out for you?

Atheism suggests there is no God. Nobody living has complete faith in the existence of God. Therefore everybody lives with at least a touch of atheism in him/her. Because of this, since I am living, there is a part of me that holds to atheism just like there is a part of you that holds to God. Secrecy has nothing to do with it... except that, though you seem to write the language very well, you don't seem to be able to understand much of what anyone says.

Nothing wrong with that. Your field of expertise simply lies elsewhere.

Smiley

Hold on. You've give us the green light to manipulate the definition of words! You can't have your cake and eat it BADecker.
Either:
A) We all stick to the standard definition of words.
B) We are all allowed to change the definition of words

We can't have one rule for some and other rules for others.
So what's it going to be? A or B?


Wow! You make reasonable sense here. And you are asking me to be your leader by making this choice for all of you?

 Cheesy

No. What I'm saying is if you choose to manipulate the definition of words such as 'scientists' and 'atheists' which you have endlessly here on the forum, you cannot protest when others do the same.

Not meaning to change the definitions of words. Simply explaining some details about the people who claim that they are what those words express.

Smiley

EDIT: However, if it takes a redefining of the words to do it, why not? I mean, it's about time that people stop hiding behind a bunch of deceitfulness.

Changing words about for your own gain is in itself deceitful.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:45:29 PM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley

What's this got to do with my last statement? Your rambling.

Do I have to literally spell it out for you?

Atheism suggests there is no God. Nobody living has complete faith in the existence of God. Therefore everybody lives with at least a touch of atheism in him/her. Because of this, since I am living, there is a part of me that holds to atheism just like there is a part of you that holds to God. Secrecy has nothing to do with it... except that, though you seem to write the language very well, you don't seem to be able to understand much of what anyone says.

Nothing wrong with that. Your field of expertise simply lies elsewhere.

Smiley

Hold on. You've give us the green light to manipulate the definition of words! You can't have your cake and eat it BADecker.
Either:
A) We all stick to the standard definition of words.
B) We are all allowed to change the definition of words

We can't have one rule for some and other rules for others.
So what's it going to be? A or B?


Wow! You make reasonable sense here. And you are asking me to be your leader by making this choice for all of you?

 Cheesy

No. What I'm saying is if you choose to manipulate the definition of words such as 'scientists' and 'atheists' which you have endlessly here on the forum, you cannot protest when others do the same.

Not meaning to change the definitions of words. Simply explaining some details about the people who claim that they are what those words express.

Smiley

EDIT: However, if it takes a redefining of the words to do it, why not? I mean, it's about time that people stop hiding behind a bunch of deceitfulness.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:34:19 PM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley

What's this got to do with my last statement? Your rambling.

Do I have to literally spell it out for you?

Atheism suggests there is no God. Nobody living has complete faith in the existence of God. Therefore everybody lives with at least a touch of atheism in him/her. Because of this, since I am living, there is a part of me that holds to atheism just like there is a part of you that holds to God. Secrecy has nothing to do with it... except that, though you seem to write the language very well, you don't seem to be able to understand much of what anyone says.

Nothing wrong with that. Your field of expertise simply lies elsewhere.

Smiley

Hold on. You've give us the green light to manipulate the definition of words! You can't have your cake and eat it BADecker.
Either:
A) We all stick to the standard definition of words.
B) We are all allowed to change the definition of words

We can't have one rule for some and other rules for others.
So what's it going to be? A or B?


Wow! You make reasonable sense here. And you are asking me to be your leader by making this choice for all of you?

 Cheesy

No. What I'm saying is if you choose to manipulate the definition of words such as 'scientists' and 'atheists' which you have endlessly here on the forum, you cannot protest when others do the same.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:29:33 PM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley

What's this got to do with my last statement? Your rambling.

Do I have to literally spell it out for you?

Atheism suggests there is no God. Nobody living has complete faith in the existence of God. Therefore everybody lives with at least a touch of atheism in him/her. Because of this, since I am living, there is a part of me that holds to atheism just like there is a part of you that holds to God. Secrecy has nothing to do with it... except that, though you seem to write the language very well, you don't seem to be able to understand much of what anyone says.

Nothing wrong with that. Your field of expertise simply lies elsewhere.

Smiley

Hold on. You've give us the green light to manipulate the definition of words! You can't have your cake and eat it BADecker.
Either:
A) We all stick to the standard definition of words.
B) We are all allowed to change the definition of words

We can't have one rule for some and other rules for others.
So what's it going to be? A or B?


Wow! You make reasonable sense here. And you are asking me to be your leader by making this choice for all of you?

 Cheesy
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:27:21 PM
Look here is the problem with your arguments. Disproving the existence of God and pretty much anything is impossible now your arguments are also pretty much impossible to disprove and i quote: "God is timeless" How are gonna disprove that? Pretty much all your "arguments" are like that and if we cant disprove your arguments or the existance of God its pointless
Luckily the people with closed minds never achieve anything in life and just remain the average unimportant Joe. People have become so stupid and ignorant, that leading discussions is becoming a waste of time.
If they can't accept being wrong, there is no argument that will make them 'wrong' in their own eyes.

I know exactly what you mean. I am continually putting up with a whole lot of these people right here in this thread.

Smiley
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
Look here is the problem with your arguments. Disproving the existence of God and pretty much anything is impossible now your arguments are also pretty much impossible to disprove and i quote: "God is timeless" How are gonna disprove that? Pretty much all your "arguments" are like that and if we cant disprove your arguments or the existance of God its pointless

The proofs for God are here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395. That He is timeless cannot be proven.

Smiley
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:17:42 PM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley

What's this got to do with my last statement? Your rambling.

Do I have to literally spell it out for you?

Atheism suggests there is no God. Nobody living has complete faith in the existence of God. Therefore everybody lives with at least a touch of atheism in him/her. Because of this, since I am living, there is a part of me that holds to atheism just like there is a part of you that holds to God. Secrecy has nothing to do with it... except that, though you seem to write the language very well, you don't seem to be able to understand much of what anyone says.

Nothing wrong with that. Your field of expertise simply lies elsewhere.

Smiley

Hold on. You've give us the green light to manipulate the definition of words! You can't have your cake and eat it BADecker.
Either:
A) We all stick to the standard definition of words.
B) We are all allowed to change the definition of words

We can't have one rule for some and other rules for others.
So what's it going to be? A or B?
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:16:58 PM
Look here is the problem with your arguments. Disproving the existence of God and pretty much anything is impossible now your arguments are also pretty much impossible to disprove and i quote: "God is timeless" How are gonna disprove that? Pretty much all your "arguments" are like that and if we cant disprove your arguments or the existance of God its pointless
Luckily the people with closed minds never achieve anything in life and just remain the average unimportant Joe. People have become so stupid and ignorant, that leading discussions is becoming a waste of time.
If they can't accept being wrong, there is no argument that will make them 'wrong' in their own eyes.
hero member
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March 11, 2015, 12:14:14 PM
Look here is the problem with your arguments. Disproving the existence of God and pretty much anything is impossible now your arguments are also pretty much impossible to disprove and i quote: "God is timeless" How are gonna disprove that? Pretty much all your "arguments" are like that and if we cant disprove your arguments or the existance of God its pointless
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:13:09 PM
Come on, folks. Just a little more arguing and we will be to 200 pages.    Shocked
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:11:37 PM
When you finally determine that going within is simply a method to prove that God does not exist, or else that He exists in yourself, then you have the chance to see if such thinking matches the things of the universe and nature around you.

Obviously, God exists as I have shown at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395. All that is left is to see if you are He (She/It). Miracle time.

Smiley
Both statements are wrong. You haven't answered to anything, rather avoided it completely.
Go within was a hint that one should meditate.

Thank you. You are such a sweetheart.     Kiss
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:08:33 PM
When you finally determine that going within is simply a method to prove that God does not exist, or else that He exists in yourself, then you have the chance to see if such thinking matches the things of the universe and nature around you.

Obviously, God exists as I have shown at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395. All that is left is to see if you are He (She/It). Miracle time.

Smiley
Both statements are wrong. You haven't answered to anything, rather avoided it completely.
Go within was a hint that one should meditate.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:07:20 PM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley

What's this got to do with my last statement? Your rambling.

Do I have to literally spell it out for you?

Atheism suggests there is no God. Nobody living has complete faith in the existence of God. Therefore everybody lives with at least a touch of atheism in him/her. Because of this, since I am living, there is a part of me that holds to atheism just like there is a part of you that holds to God. Secrecy has nothing to do with it... except that, though you seem to write the language very well, you don't seem to be able to understand much of what anyone says.

Nothing wrong with that. Your field of expertise simply lies elsewhere.

Smiley
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:01:24 PM
what created  god? Can't have something come from nothing, apparently.

God always existed. This universe, and the dimensions that are part of it, these are the things that have a beginning.

Smiley

Any proof to sustain that statment?

Not the first statement. Cause and effect, combined with the complexity of the universe, along with the entropy therein, prove the second.

Remember, we all believe. We believe in many things because we don't have any proof for them. We even believe and hope that the next second of our lives will be at least as good, if not better than, the last, because we don't know for a fact what will happen even a second into the future.

Consider Hiroshima and Nagasaki. One instant the people were living their lives. The next instant they were gone. They had no clue.

Smiley
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March 11, 2015, 11:58:23 AM
Can you answer my last 2 posts?
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 11:58:18 AM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley

What's this got to do with my last statement? Your rambling.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 11:54:01 AM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy

Nobody has complete faith in the existence of God. And one must have some faith just to live. The question is, do I have enough faith that God can use it to save me? I hope and trust that He will hold my faith strong enough that I will be saved. Why? Certainly I don't want the pain of damnation. But more importantly, I don't want to miss out on living in the New Heavens and the New Earth, with God, forever beholding the Greatness and Wonderfullness that He is.

Smiley
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 11:49:32 AM
@BADecker  How do you feel about the ancient gods? I'll pick one at random, let's say Thor? Do you believe in Thor?


What do you mean by the question "Do you believe in Thor?"

I believe that the real Thor was a capable person who people idolized. After he died, the story about him changed somewhat, over time.

Does anybody know about the real Thor? I haven't even been interested in him enough to look him up for scientific or archaeological details about who he really was.

But that isn't really what this thread is about, is it?

Smiley

Actually it is. Why dont you believe in THOR? There are quadrilions of evidence of his existance? Can you prove that god thor does not exist?

Why do you think I don't believe in Thor? Didn't you read my post that you quoted?

Smiley

But can you prove he does not exist?

I don't even know who he is. I probably can't prove that he doesn't exist. But more importantly, why do you ask questions about Thor?

Smiley


Because he is a god and because you ask for proof against god. Im trying to make you understand how hard is to disprove something, pretty much imposible

Thank you. That is almost exactly the "small" idea of my post at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395. Not only do we have no way of proving God does not exist, but we have a universe full of reasons why He does exist, as pointed out at my post.

Smiley
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 11:45:35 AM
BADecker: Is the only proof the people need that bible is shit. Just read BADeckers posts.. no truth, no evidence, no proof, just shite spoutin from the most un-educated bible basher in history. Someone needs to tell him we're only entertaining him to see what more shite he'll spout about his jewish diety.. imagine.. a christian jew.. wow.. he's prob got a cross with a photo of himself stuck to jesus's face just to remind himself of his one fatal flaw.. he's a fuckin idiot, As his 'evidence' proves. Yeah BADecker, we know you are.. now hurry up and crucify yourself, saves us doing it for ya..

I know, I know. Now that we have figured out that God most certainly exists, you simply want to argue some about His attributes.

Smiley

The only thing we've figured out today is that you've secretly been an atheist all along. Cheesy
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 11:45:18 AM
@BADecker  How do you feel about the ancient gods? I'll pick one at random, let's say Thor? Do you believe in Thor?


What do you mean by the question "Do you believe in Thor?"

I believe that the real Thor was a capable person who people idolized. After he died, the story about him changed somewhat, over time.

Does anybody know about the real Thor? I haven't even been interested in him enough to look him up for scientific or archaeological details about who he really was.

But that isn't really what this thread is about, is it?

Smiley

Well this thread is about god, and Thor was a god. The thread didn't specify which god.
Why are you rejecting this god yet believe yours is the true one?
Surely your being Atheist towards the god Thor? Logical right

Since you are saying that I am doing something that you really don't know that I am doing, and that it appears that I am not doing by my post which you quoted, there is no real way to respond to your questions. Logical, right?

Smiley

That makes no sense.

You would say that.   Smiley
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