Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 431. (Read 845565 times)

Keep in mind that 'darkness' is just as transparent as the 'water' and hence, does not exist.

Edit: As for the firmament, would'nt that be the 'bit' where other parallel univere's 'join' which MAY explain where that 'spirit' of god came from?

Truth is guy's, I'd go as far as say, WE created the begining, from nothing more than a thought, an eternal thought, that grew in the abyss of our mind. I see us as looking IN life, as opposed to most who see out..

Space is the universal mind.

No, according to your last post here, I will be god lol, and I do like a bit of sarcasm n cheek, or I would'nt dish it out when i do, bash on soldier..

Good for you. And I am not speaking sarcastically. But let me start, sorta.

Since you are using deductive reasoning, how many trillions of things in the universe do you have left to prove? Of course, some things will be implied by others... maybe.

When you get done, if you have disproved everything in the universe from being God, will that mean that God doesn't exist?

So far I have managed to 'prove' that god is most certainly NOT the light, dunno about the 'spirit' of, but I'll settle for the obvious science we know. There was no light before god spoke the sentence. As for where the water, darkness, and deep came from, well, that's three different matter's entirely..

If you prove God exists, or if you prove He doesn't exist, You are setting yourself up as god through the proving. So, one way or another God exists, even though there isn't any complete proof one way or another.

Boost his post count.  He left twenty+ one line posts in the span of 10 minutes in the Off Topic section on every topic.   

Your request is coming sooner than you think..

And the point of this statement is?

What do you think I'm trying to do here?

I'm not only trying to find proof of this 'god', I'm also trying to disprove it..

You sound like a shop assistant, you know, like, I as a customer walk in to 'browse' the fact's and the 'fiction', you come up and ask, can I help you sir? - yeah, you look around, I'll wait here.

The Jewish religion bullshit, setbacks the humanity for 1700 years. It is time to threw it in the trash where it belongs.

god doesnt exist unless u proof otherwise

I know as much as the next man everything you could say that came after that let there be light, (big bang?) but your denying the test, me, I know the answer, you clearly do not, (yet) please stick to the test?

If there was ever a time where only one thing existed, it was immediately after the Big Bang.

The only thing that existed at the time was hydrogen.

Everything you see now comes from the fusion of hydrogen into heavier elements.

And they came from..?? This is a test, not negotiable. If all there is, for this test, is water and dark?

The water was contained in the ice on the meteorites and comets.  This is common knowledge.   

To think light happened 'approx' 4 billion years ago is as nonsensicle as the bible. To think land formed 1 billion years later is also nonsense, as for how solid meteorite's and comet's became h20.. I dont think so.. I dont have a 2000 year old book, for I am not religious, spiritual, yes, but religious enough to believe in a false god designed to instill fear, nah.. notice how all of nature attack's fear? I only try to answer the op's question, sometimes by saying thing's I know will trigger other response's, that in turn will (hopefully) trigger answer's that bring us closer to the truth like, for instance, test equipment is only designed to tell us what it is designed to tell us, it cannot question, and or decide anything we dont program it to.. so to say everything started way back whenever the gadjets we make, show, is nonsense in itself.. be it 2000 years, or 100 billion trillion, it all started somewhere.. I just got one question, which I know no-one can answer, and that is, where DID it all (all including the space inbetween) come from?

Let me guess, it just happened..? nah..

I have to say, that not one book has ever answered me in a fair and square way, any possible way that the infinite space up there could be, full stop. It's one thing to have an idea of how old something is, like, say, light, okay, let's just say for argument's sake that you are correct, then how old is the space in between object's, ya know, the 'nothing' the big gap's inbetween everything we could imagine?

How old is the dark stuff?

And how do you get fusion from water and dark?

Wether it always has been or not, it came from, and started somewhere, and if a god created it, then there must be a way to figure it out. For instance, those in the know, know that the spirit of god CANNOT be earth, air, fire, or water, however, it CAN be the wind, but this to me is contradictory, for wind is created by the flames of the sun, but if there was no light before god spoke that first sentence of his, then how could the water exist in such a form as to be able to reflect the darkness?

In this department, I am an imovable object until I can at least see the light of HOW it all came to be.

In my mind, I see:

Darkness existed before the water. Water, most likely came from condensation. but condensation requires heat, which evaporate's water. Evaporated water is hence (theoretically) the spirit of god.

Here's the 'trick' - Imagine absolutely nothing. Not even a void.

Add Darkness. Now dya get it? Then add water. If nothing else exist's yet, how can the water be 'deep'? Perhap's it was the 'dark' that was deep..

How, in YOUR mind's eye, do you differentiate water from the dark that sit's on it? Now you see the light. For your mind's eye 'create's' the deviding 'line' making one darker than the other. If they appear the same, you still have that fine deviding line in your mind's eye. Just as the water appear's 'together' as opposed to spread out to infinity. For then you'd only 'see' darkness, as the water become's 'white' noise.

This 'line' between the Darkness and the Water, would be the 'spirit' of god, aka, the whorl, or in simple term's, wind.

Kinda leave's us in the middle of nowhere really, but this IS the point. Now produce life.

I am afraid that Bible and other holy books as we know them today will be long gone in like 2000 years from now. Then it would be only a memory and mythology. Like today we have ancient Greek and Roman mythology. And no one believes in Zeus or Athena today.

Light happened approx 4 billion years ago with the fusion of the sun
Land formed approx 3 billion years ago with the gravitation collection of the earth
Water formed approx 2 billion years ago from meteorites and comets.

Your 2,000 year old book has it very backwards.  Try reading a newer book.

 

You can't really compare people from back then and now. Science has shown us many things and changed the way that we see everything (well at least for the non-ignorant, non-religious people).
Also nobody sees things the same way, and things like 'perception', 'reality' were always discussable.

I reckon if people want evidence of god they need to consider what was BEFORE god spoke "let there be light"

We know there was 'deep' and 'darkness' (which incidently, prove's darkness will win in the end, as in the A & O, from darkness, and water,  we came) which the 'spirit' of god moved over. Now we have a focal point for FINDING scientific proof of god.

All you have in your mind's eye right now is water, reflecting darkness. Cold, and Wet.As for what moved over this 'deep' which could, as previously stated, only be possible (scientifically) if the water was contained, or ice - ?

Answer's, please?

Actually, no two people experience the same, wether part of this universe or not, for no two eye's see the same colour.. which is forever changing from day to day..