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legendary
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October 20, 2014, 04:55:32 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there
legendary
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October 20, 2014, 04:55:23 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

Nay, but that testimony of "God" termed "Jesus."

Does that mean that it was Jesus Who spoke the light into existence?  Smiley

Or was Jesus only the Word that God used to speak light into existence?

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-5/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Wow! A God guy. Here I was thinking that you were probably an atheist. Or aren't you a guy, but rather a gal?

Smiley
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October 20, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
And hence why I saught god elsewhere, cause that book is just too out of date for today's intelligence.

The word is NOT god, or they would NOT be looking for it would they now, dear masons? Who was it that lost it? Hiram Abiff aka Jesus?
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October 20, 2014, 04:48:33 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

Nay, but that testimony of "God" termed "Jesus."

Does that mean that it was Jesus Who spoke the light into existence?  Smiley

Or was Jesus only the Word that God used to speak light into existence?

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-5/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
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October 20, 2014, 04:47:41 PM
Ah.. so adam and eve existed before the dinosaur's? 64 MILLION years ago?

Since when was god 'recognised' (for want of a better word) as the light?
legendary
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October 20, 2014, 04:45:09 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

Nay, but that testimony of "God" termed "Jesus."

Does that mean that it was Jesus Who spoke the light into existence?  Smiley

Or was Jesus only the Word that God used to speak light into existence?
sr. member
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October 20, 2014, 04:44:21 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

3    And God said
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October 20, 2014, 04:42:28 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

Nay, but that testimony of "God" termed "Jesus."
legendary
Activity: 3906
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October 20, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley
sr. member
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Knowledge could but approximate existence.
October 20, 2014, 04:36:57 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)
legendary
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October 20, 2014, 04:33:59 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley

First off, do you read anything that is not in the bible? In particular, my earlier post's that clearly state I am not an athiest? I am a searcher. I have yet to choose. I believe in god, but not YOURS. Mine is superior in that he allows me to show you, your bible is the one that is in fact backwards. I mean c'mon.. God is the light, yet light existed only after how many other event's of actualisation, or day's? You try to belittle me, whenever I come up with a genuine scientific FACT that MAY prove or disprove the existance of god.

In that when I speak for god, your right there preaching with me, but when I point out all the things that existed before god, like the WATER god moved over, you call me an athiest? You dont understand the reason people like me dont go to church is not fear of god, but people like you who just wont acknowledge that god's light is staring you in the face, and you deny him?

When I said god said to remind them (people like you) that he is the light, all that happened here in my house, is I went to make coffee, and the thought occured to me that if god is the light, then he was created in the 3rd sentence of genesis. The fact he SAW the light prove's he cannot BE the light, for then light would exist. I like these argument's/debates with you, and hhope you can be just as thorough in your defense of god, just dont use the book, cause as I said.. for me to ask you, god must also work through me too, in order to point out these thing's no? What if god really did speak though me to ask you these points personally?

It seems,  and not only to me, that when things are from the bible, your there, but if it's not the christian bible, then it's crap?

Let's try my style without making you cry:

Genesis:

1    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Fair call, so they say etc..

2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Earth (soil/dust) clearly existed, it just had no form, and hence is negated. darkness was on the face of the deep. This state's that the deep reflected darkness on it's face like a mirror. Now here if god was/is the light, he could not, scientifically exist. Note the 'spirit' of god, but NOT god, moved upon the face of the water. Now unless that water was 'contained', it would be spread over so vast a space that scot's mist would be a downpour compared to how fine the water particle's would be.. to move ON the water is to suggest the water was either ICE or CONTAINED.

3    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Proving no light existed previous to the act of the eternal thought that grew in the abyss, which evolved into SOUND.

Now, how's about stopping trying to belittle someone with a greater understanding of SCIENCE in this search for YOUR god, that even YOU probably need, just to comprehend that YOUR god answer's to mine?

Relax, Decky. You are way ahead of the atheists, simply by recognizing that God exists!  Smiley

Sfunny.. am way ahead of genesis already.. I better put your book away.. just dont be taking anything I say personally.. But I did get ya all with the light..

No, Decky. All it proves is that you can read and think some. I realize how hard it is to hold a lot of thoughts together at the same time, and try to juggle where they fit. Keep trying, though. You just might make it sometime.

Smiley
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October 20, 2014, 04:31:16 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.
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October 20, 2014, 04:28:44 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley

First off, do you read anything that is not in the bible? In particular, my earlier post's that clearly state I am not an athiest? I am a searcher. I have yet to choose. I believe in god, but not YOURS. Mine is superior in that he allows me to show you, your bible is the one that is in fact backwards. I mean c'mon.. God is the light, yet light existed only after how many other event's of actualisation, or day's? You try to belittle me, whenever I come up with a genuine scientific FACT that MAY prove or disprove the existance of god.

In that when I speak for god, your right there preaching with me, but when I point out all the things that existed before god, like the WATER god moved over, you call me an athiest? You dont understand the reason people like me dont go to church is not fear of god, but people like you who just wont acknowledge that god's light is staring you in the face, and you deny him?

When I said god said to remind them (people like you) that he is the light, all that happened here in my house, is I went to make coffee, and the thought occured to me that if god is the light, then he was created in the 3rd sentence of genesis. The fact he SAW the light prove's he cannot BE the light, for then light would exist. I like these argument's/debates with you, and hhope you can be just as thorough in your defense of god, just dont use the book, cause as I said.. for me to ask you, god must also work through me too, in order to point out these thing's no? What if god really did speak though me to ask you these points personally?

It seems,  and not only to me, that when things are from the bible, your there, but if it's not the christian bible, then it's crap?

Let's try my style without making you cry:

Genesis:

1    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Fair call, so they say etc..

2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Earth (soil/dust) clearly existed, it just had no form, and hence is negated. darkness was on the face of the deep. This state's that the deep reflected darkness on it's face like a mirror. Now here if god was/is the light, he could not, scientifically exist. Note the 'spirit' of god, but NOT god, moved upon the face of the water. Now unless that water was 'contained', it would be spread over so vast a space that scot's mist would be a downpour compared to how fine the water particle's would be.. to move ON the water is to suggest the water was either ICE or CONTAINED.

3    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Proving no light existed previous to the act of the eternal thought that grew in the abyss, which evolved into SOUND.

Now, how's about stopping trying to belittle someone with a greater understanding of SCIENCE in this search for YOUR god, that even YOU probably need, just to comprehend that YOUR god answer's to mine?

Relax, Decky. You are way ahead of the atheists, simply by recognizing that God exists!  Smiley

Sfunny.. am way ahead of genesis already.. I better put your book away.. just dont be taking anything I say personally.. But I did get ya all with the light..
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October 20, 2014, 04:26:30 PM
I'd also like to show you the internal colour's of an old tv, red, green and blue. Now if the sky does not actually exist, it cannot be blue. And grass is not green. Explain the science that makes me say this?

How do these three primary colours make grass APPEAR green, and the sky APPEAR blue?

Those incidentally direct relatively specific electromagnetic radiation into one's eyes.

Your a fuckin nutjob pal, spoiling this thread all on your own.

Imagine "black" with "things" in it (that "make sense")—that's a "rough sketch" of "the" universe.

I think it's obvious I know just a wee bit more than the copy n paste man.. how many thread's did you scout from this site alone just to copy n paste useless information, in particular, information we've heard over and over? I wish I was mod here, cause I'd delete 85% of your crap just to keep READERS on track..!

What matter is "know[ledge]‽" These are matter of external accuracy (that is, "truth").
legendary
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October 20, 2014, 04:26:06 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
legendary
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October 20, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley

First off, do you read anything that is not in the bible? In particular, my earlier post's that clearly state I am not an athiest? I am a searcher. I have yet to choose. I believe in god, but not YOURS. Mine is superior in that he allows me to show you, your bible is the one that is in fact backwards. I mean c'mon.. God is the light, yet light existed only after how many other event's of actualisation, or day's? You try to belittle me, whenever I come up with a genuine scientific FACT that MAY prove or disprove the existance of god.

In that when I speak for god, your right there preaching with me, but when I point out all the things that existed before god, like the WATER god moved over, you call me an athiest? You dont understand the reason people like me dont go to church is not fear of god, but people like you who just wont acknowledge that god's light is staring you in the face, and you deny him?

When I said god said to remind them (people like you) that he is the light, all that happened here in my house, is I went to make coffee, and the thought occured to me that if god is the light, then he was created in the 3rd sentence of genesis. The fact he SAW the light prove's he cannot BE the light, for then light would exist. I like these argument's/debates with you, and hhope you can be just as thorough in your defense of god, just dont use the book, cause as I said.. for me to ask you, god must also work through me too, in order to point out these thing's no? What if god really did speak though me to ask you these points personally?

It seems,  and not only to me, that when things are from the bible, your there, but if it's not the christian bible, then it's crap?

Let's try my style without making you cry:

Genesis:

1    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Fair call, so they say etc..

2    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Earth (soil/dust) clearly existed, it just had no form, and hence is negated. darkness was on the face of the deep. This state's that the deep reflected darkness on it's face like a mirror. Now here if god was/is the light, he could not, scientifically exist. Note the 'spirit' of god, but NOT god, moved upon the face of the water. Now unless that water was 'contained', it would be spread over so vast a space that scot's mist would be a downpour compared to how fine the water particle's would be.. to move ON the water is to suggest the water was either ICE or CONTAINED.

3    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Proving no light existed previous to the act of the eternal thought that grew in the abyss, which evolved into SOUND.

Now, how's about stopping trying to belittle someone with a greater understanding of SCIENCE in this search for YOUR god, that even YOU probably need, just to comprehend that YOUR god answer's to mine?

Relax, Decky. You are way ahead of the atheists, simply by recognizing that God exists!  Smiley
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October 20, 2014, 04:19:13 PM
I think it's obvious I know just a wee bit more than the copy n paste man.. how many thread's did you scout from this site alone just to copy n paste useless information, in particular, information we've heard over and over? I wish I was mod here, cause I'd delete 85% of your crap just to keep READERS on track..!
sr. member
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Knowledge could but approximate existence.
October 20, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
I'd also like to show you the internal colour's of an old tv, red, green and blue. Now if the sky does not actually exist, it cannot be blue. And grass is not green. Explain the science that makes me say this?

How do these three primary colours make grass APPEAR green, and the sky APPEAR blue?

Those incidentally direct relatively specific electromagnetic radiation into one's eyes.

Your a fuckin nutjob pal, spoiling this thread all on your own.

Imagine "black" with "things" in it (that "make sense")—that's a "rough sketch" of "the" universe.
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October 20, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
I'd also like to show you the internal colour's of an old tv, red, green and blue. Now if the sky does not actually exist, it cannot be blue. And grass is not green. Explain the science that makes me say this?

How do these three primary colours make grass APPEAR green, and the sky APPEAR blue?

Those incidentally direct relatively specific electromagnetic radiation into one's eyes.

Your a fuckin nutjob pal, spoiling this thread all on your own.
legendary
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We are the champions of the night
October 20, 2014, 04:08:58 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so
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