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October 20, 2014, 06:16:33 PM
I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink



By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.

What, then, are you saying?

That collectively, our SOUL's are god
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October 20, 2014, 06:15:54 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

And here, you will eventually, (for I have no idea of your age) discover, that in the beginning, water existed. So did the dark above it. It was the 'Spirit' of god that created the first MOVEMENT as IT moved ON the water. To dis my introduction of SOUND is to forget a f(o)und-a-mental process, that purposefull vibration that filled the VOID with SOUND. If the water sat on nothing, or was not contained, it would be spread so vast as to appear as non-existant, yet the spirit of god moved ON/OVER the deep, not THROUGH the mist of time. To dis my introduction of SOUND is to forget your book, for the first word's EVER spoken, according to your book, were "let there be light" - The universe is a mental process, and we are all a part of that creation.

Within Christianity, "Epistle" trumps "Torah," and "Gospel" trumps that.
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October 20, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

And here, you will eventually, (for I have no idea of your age) discover, that in the beginning, water existed. So did the dark above it. It was the 'Spirit' of god that created the first MOVEMENT as IT moved ON the water. To dis my introduction of SOUND is to forget a f(o)und-a-mental process, that purposefull vibration that filled the VOID with SOUND. If the water sat on nothing, or was not contained, it would be spread so vast as to appear as non-existant, yet the spirit of god moved ON/OVER the deep, not THROUGH the mist of time. To dis my introduction of SOUND is to forget your book, for the first word's EVER spoken, according to your book, were "let there be light" - The universe is a mental process, and we are all a part of that creation.
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October 20, 2014, 05:55:55 PM
I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink



By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.

What, then, are you saying?
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October 20, 2014, 05:54:58 PM
I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink



By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.
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October 20, 2014, 05:54:22 PM
I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink



Well, even the Bible says that if God were to withdraw His Spirit and breath (another word for spirit), that all mankind would perish together.

Smiley

Have you ever tried to breath aurora borealis? Shocking to say the least!!
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October 20, 2014, 05:53:07 PM
I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink



By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."
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October 20, 2014, 05:39:24 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

Keep trying. Or maybe start trying? Sooner or later, if you try hard enough, you will see through the haze of faith in your religion, so that you can finally see the truth.

Smiley
I could sit here all day and dismantle your terrible arguments for a god, but you'll just keep coming up with new ones.  You proved with the Higgs Boson you literally do 0 research before spewing out false info.  It's really kinda funny that you belittle the person that has proved every thing you've said to me in this thread wrong.

Believe what you want, but there is no evidence.  Oh, and atheism isn't a religion Smiley

Again, the strong evidence is found in (among other things) these:
1. There is simply no evidence of anything other than entropy, so how did all this start?
2. We see no evidence of complex machinery without a machine maker, so where did the complex universe machine come from?
3. There is no such thing as pure random, so there is no way that the complex universe could have happened by accident.
4. The fact of consciousness and conscience within people defies all scientific tracking except a very external one.

So, when are you going to recognize the evidence and stop parroting the no-evidence idea? Or are you some kind of a political science propagandist?

Smiley
1: big crunch seems to be the leading theory right now.  Lack of knowledge doesn't prove a god

2: fine-tuned universe fallacy

3: makes no sense

4: God of the gaps, and we do understand consciousness on a basic level.  Soon we will understand it more

C'mon, give me a challenge Cheesy

See? That's precisely the point. Anybody can simply say that they don't accept what was said somewhere else.

If you study the 4 points I made above, you would see God. I understand how that might scare the heck out of you. But heck is just another word for hell, and you would feel a whole lot better with a whole lot less of hell in you.

Smiley
Thank you for threatening to burn me in a eternal fire instead of countering my points

Hey, have no fear, god is here, I'll piss on ye tae save your soul..
Vod
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October 20, 2014, 05:37:47 PM
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3. There is no such thing as pure random, so there is no way that the complex universe could have happened by accident.

Yet an even more complex god just formed by accident.   Roll Eyes
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October 20, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

Keep trying. Or maybe start trying? Sooner or later, if you try hard enough, you will see through the haze of faith in your religion, so that you can finally see the truth.

Smiley
I could sit here all day and dismantle your terrible arguments for a god, but you'll just keep coming up with new ones.  You proved with the Higgs Boson you literally do 0 research before spewing out false info.  It's really kinda funny that you belittle the person that has proved every thing you've said to me in this thread wrong.

Believe what you want, but there is no evidence.  Oh, and atheism isn't a religion Smiley

Again, the strong evidence is found in (among other things) these:
1. There is simply no evidence of anything other than entropy, so how did all this start?
2. We see no evidence of complex machinery without a machine maker, so where did the complex universe machine come from?
3. There is no such thing as pure random, so there is no way that the complex universe could have happened by accident.
4. The fact of consciousness and conscience within people defies all scientific tracking except a very external one.

So, when are you going to recognize the evidence and stop parroting the no-evidence idea? Or are you some kind of a political science propagandist?

Smiley
1: big crunch seems to be the leading theory right now.  Lack of knowledge doesn't prove a god

2: fine-tuned universe fallacy

3: makes no sense

4: God of the gaps, and we do understand consciousness on a basic level.  Soon we will understand it more

C'mon, give me a challenge Cheesy

See? That's precisely the point. Anybody can simply say that they don't accept what was said somewhere else.

If you study the 4 points I made above, you would see God. I understand how that might scare the heck out of you. But heck is just another word for hell, and you would feel a whole lot better with a whole lot less of hell in you.

Smiley
Thank you for threatening to burn me in a eternal fire instead of countering my points
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October 20, 2014, 05:31:08 PM
1: Entropy is bullshit. A lame assed excuse of a word that makes people fall asleep.

2: No living thing on Earth, or Earth, is a machine. The key here, is human's are BEING, as they form their own form, ALIVE, as is Earth, which form's it's own also. In a continual state of fluidity, this prove's it cannot be a machine, for it is akin to the water, with a little 'clay'

3: There was no accident. The water that the 'spirit'(aurora borealis) of god moved over was clearly at one with itself.

4: Seth speak's or Seth reversed.. very trackable, both internally and externally..

5. The second coming is of Jinn.

Now aint that a fact BADecker?
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October 20, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

Keep trying. Or maybe start trying? Sooner or later, if you try hard enough, you will see through the haze of faith in your religion, so that you can finally see the truth.

Smiley
I could sit here all day and dismantle your terrible arguments for a god, but you'll just keep coming up with new ones.  You proved with the Higgs Boson you literally do 0 research before spewing out false info.  It's really kinda funny that you belittle the person that has proved every thing you've said to me in this thread wrong.

Believe what you want, but there is no evidence.  Oh, and atheism isn't a religion Smiley

Again, the strong evidence is found in (among other things) these:
1. There is simply no evidence of anything other than entropy, so how did all this start?
2. We see no evidence of complex machinery without a machine maker, so where did the complex universe machine come from?
3. There is no such thing as pure random, so there is no way that the complex universe could have happened by accident.
4. The fact of consciousness and conscience within people defies all scientific tracking except a very external one.

So, when are you going to recognize the evidence and stop parroting the no-evidence idea? Or are you some kind of a political science propagandist?

Smiley
1: big crunch seems to be the leading theory right now.  Lack of knowledge doesn't prove a god

2: fine-tuned universe fallacy

3: makes no sense

4: God of the gaps, and we do understand consciousness on a basic level.  Soon we will understand it more

C'mon, give me a challenge Cheesy

See? That's precisely the point. Anybody can simply say that they don't accept what was said somewhere else.

If you study the 4 points I made above, you would see God. I understand how that might scare the heck out of you. But heck is just another word for hell, and you would feel a whole lot better with a whole lot less of hell in you.

Smiley
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October 20, 2014, 05:17:20 PM
I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink



Well, even the Bible says that if God were to withdraw His Spirit and breath (another word for spirit), that all mankind would perish together.

Smiley
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October 20, 2014, 05:17:03 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

Keep trying. Or maybe start trying? Sooner or later, if you try hard enough, you will see through the haze of faith in your religion, so that you can finally see the truth.

Smiley
I could sit here all day and dismantle your terrible arguments for a god, but you'll just keep coming up with new ones.  You proved with the Higgs Boson you literally do 0 research before spewing out false info.  It's really kinda funny that you belittle the person that has proved every thing you've said to me in this thread wrong.

Believe what you want, but there is no evidence.  Oh, and atheism isn't a religion Smiley

Again, the strong evidence is found in (among other things) these:
1. There is simply no evidence of anything other than entropy, so how did all this start?
2. We see no evidence of complex machinery without a machine maker, so where did the complex universe machine come from?
3. There is no such thing as pure random, so there is no way that the complex universe could have happened by accident.
4. The fact of consciousness and conscience within people defies all scientific tracking except a very external one.

So, when are you going to recognize the evidence and stop parroting the no-evidence idea? Or are you some kind of a political science propagandist?

Smiley
1: big crunch seems to be the leading theory right now.  Lack of knowledge doesn't prove a god

2: fine-tuned universe fallacy

3: makes no sense

4: How exactly does being conscious prove there is a god?  We understand how it works on a basic level and are learning more about it every day

C'mon, give me a challenge Cheesy
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October 20, 2014, 05:14:33 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

Keep trying. Or maybe start trying? Sooner or later, if you try hard enough, you will see through the haze of faith in your religion, so that you can finally see the truth.

Smiley
I could sit here all day and dismantle your terrible arguments for a god, but you'll just keep coming up with new ones.  You proved with the Higgs Boson you literally do 0 research before spewing out false info.  It's really kinda funny that you belittle the person that has proved every thing you've said to me in this thread wrong.

Believe what you want, but there is no evidence.  Oh, and atheism isn't a religion Smiley

Again, the strong evidence is found in (among other things) these:
1. There is simply no evidence of anything other than entropy, so how did all this start?
2. We see no evidence of complex machinery without a machine maker, so where did the complex universe machine come from?
3. There is no such thing as pure random, so there is no way that the complex universe could have happened by accident.
4. The fact of consciousness and conscience within people defies all scientific tracking except a very external one.

So, when are you going to recognize the evidence and stop parroting the no-evidence idea? Or are you some kind of a political science propagandist?

Smiley
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October 20, 2014, 05:09:35 PM
I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink

legendary
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October 20, 2014, 05:07:24 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

Keep trying. Or maybe start trying? Sooner or later, if you try hard enough, you will see through the haze of faith in your religion, so that you can finally see the truth.

Smiley
I could sit here all day and dismantle your terrible arguments for a god, but you'll just keep coming up with new ones.  You proved with the Higgs Boson you literally do 0 research before spewing out false info.  It's really kinda funny that you belittle the person that has proved every thing you've said to me in this thread wrong.

Believe what you want, but there is no evidence.  Oh, and atheism isn't a religion Smiley
legendary
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October 20, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

Keep trying. Or maybe start trying? Sooner or later, if you try hard enough, you will see through the haze of faith in your religion, so that you can finally see the truth.

Smiley
sr. member
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Knowledge could but approximate existence.
October 20, 2014, 04:59:09 PM
God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?  Smiley

Nay, but that testimony of "God" termed "Jesus."

Does that mean that it was Jesus Who spoke the light into existence?  Smiley

Or was Jesus only the Word that God used to speak light into existence?

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-5/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Wow! A God guy. Her I was thinking that you were probably an atheist. Or aren't you a guy, but rather a gal?

Smiley

Quote from: St. Mark link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Mark-Chapter-10_Original-1611-KJV/
And Iesus said vnto him, Why callest thou me good? There is no man good, but one, that is God.
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October 20, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed  Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

Smiley
That would never happen short of all of humanity being in a mass hallucination, as science is nothing but observations of the world around us.  Meanwhile, a religious person says the sky is pink because their holy book said so

That would be one thing if every observer of a scientists writings expressed only what the scientist said. Or if the many non-scientists understood what the scientist meant. But this doesn't happen the majority of the time.

Because of this, the atheists are more to be pitied than all other propagandized people.

Smiley
Your desire to be ignorant is entertaining really.  You've come up with so many fallacies and nonsense arguments for a god, but are unable to cite a single good source that shows evidence of one, then you say that atheists should be pitied because we blindly take what we hear, even though the scientific evidence has been reviewed by other scientists time and time again.  Coming from somebody that thought the Higgs Boson proved god just because of it's nickname, you really don't have room to talk there

+1

Only speaks to belittle, never answer's the question, unlike his couragious counterpart bitchick, who at least accepted the question enough to actually answer.. commendable to say the least..
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