Scientific proof that God exists? - page 432.

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 21, 2014, 02:05:08 PM

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In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

Actually, I beg to differ.. Allow me to experiment.. allow me to chop off your arm so we can put the bit we chopped off into a medical deep freeze box, whilst we use a curlian camera to prove to you that, in the spirit of thing's, we can show you where your arm WAS by photographing the aura of where the missing bit of your arm WAS. Now allow me to sew arm back on, without anesthesia, and allow the reader to hear you scream for god. Hows that for experiment no:1?

"This universe, which is the same for all, has not been made by any god or man, but it always has been, is, and will be an ever-living fire, kindling itself by regular measures and going out by regular measures."

"Heraclitus"

Are you wiser than Heraclitus?

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Pmsl... the queen rules the colonies thanks to rome, welcome back Wink

Edit: MI5 aka 007, aka John Dee, astrologer to the queen, who cannot be queen without say so from the church, who do so in the name of god, correct me if I'm wrong..

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 21, 2014, 02:05:08 PM

Quote from: cocos on October 21, 2014, 11:20:17 AM

In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

Actually, I beg to differ.. Allow me to experiment.. allow me to chop off your arm so we can put the bit we chopped off into a medical deep freeze box, whilst we use a curlian camera to prove to you that, in the spirit of thing's, we can show you where your arm WAS by photographing the aura of where the missing bit of your arm WAS. Now allow me to sew arm back on, without anesthesia, and allow the reader to hear you scream for god. Hows that for experiment no:1?

This is why religious folks aren't allowed to be in charge any more. There was once a time when religion and government was closely intertwined. It was called the Dark Ages.

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Quote from: cocos on October 21, 2014, 11:20:17 AM

In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

Actually, I beg to differ.. Allow me to experiment.. allow me to chop off your arm so we can put the bit we chopped off into a medical deep freeze box, whilst we use a curlian camera to prove to you that, in the spirit of thing's, we can show you where your arm WAS by photographing the aura of where the missing bit of your arm WAS. Now allow me to sew arm back on, without anesthesia, and allow the reader to hear you scream for god. Hows that for experiment no:1?

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In science, we use experiments to prove something. Until now there is no experiment to prove the existence of God.

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 20, 2014, 03:18:56 PM

Someone need's to tell them bible bashers how many tree's died to show us the bible is an inanimate object, and cannot be 'alive', that's like saying god existed before everything else, including non-existance.. Ps, dont mention or ask where the water came from, the water god moved OVER the face of, before the earth was formed Wink

How the fuck god moved over the FACE of the water which had ZERO ground to keep it in place.. yet this water was clearly contained enough to reflect that which moved over it's (deep) face..

And just as I was about to make coffee, god say's.. remind them I am the light.. created in the third day Wink

Before then it was dark.

Decky, you have a lot of things backward, but you are giving me the opportunity to say something about the atheists that I have always wanted to say.

An atheist is a person who can look up at the sky, anytime, and see that it is blue. But the moment that some scientist proves, mathematically or scientifically, that the sky is red, or it is green, or it is yellow, or that it doesn't have any color at all, then that is the thing the atheist will spout from now on... even though he can look up at any time and see it is blue.

That's not how atheists or science works.

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If.. but this is reality mate, no if's, no but's.. your preaching nothing than total fantasy, regardless of the math's.. wake up!

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 20, 2014, 07:32:53 PM

Sorry, my understanding of math is an entirely different subject lol, in that anything other than counting cash is not much use to me.. I tried explaining some of it in earlier post's/thread's, but the world aint ready for it yet..

If zero represented an absence of quantity, negative zero would represent a stateless quantity and the other numbers would represent stated ones.

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Sorry, my understanding of math is an entirely different subject lol, in that anything other than counting cash is not much use to me.. I tried explaining some of it in earlier post's/thread's, but the world aint ready for it yet..

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 20, 2014, 07:23:41 PM

Your kinda like a bible basher, I knew you would come up with.. well, the same answer as my previous post.. 0 = no thing.

(See that post therein linked.)

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Your kinda like a bible basher, I knew you would come up with.. well, the same answer as my previous post.. 0 = no thing.

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I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink

By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.

What, then, are you saying?

That collectively, our SOUL's are god

Quote from: username18333 on September 17, 2014, 12:56:01 AM

These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

(See that text emboldened.)

What do you believe "the sum of existence is absolute entropy" to mean there?

Sorry, but entropy is LAZINESS used to explain what only I can. Try being me without any understanding of entropy, and figure out as I do..

If ya really want to boil it doin to zero point, start praying for implosion, for only then will we know that after said implosion, all that will exist is what went before..

Water, (where we came from) Darkness, (Form exists only to thine eye's) and OUR spirit, that spirit of GOD.

(That post distinguishes between "an absolute tendency to become less orderly" and "absolute entropy.")

Dude, when I say entropy is laziness, I say so knowing that it is a word invented to create the opposite of what was created in the beginning.. from the big bang to zero point, the alpha and omega.. with one slight difference.. there was no big bang. So there will be no zero point. That 'space' up there, is nothing more than a singular life entity, and when it draw's IT's last breath, we, the virus living on ONE atom, will die. Many other eternally big guys n gals known as god's shall continue. We are but a part of a being called god. He has a life span as much as the next life.

Well, I reckon since no-one else would dare come out with what only an Aquarian would.. any other Aquarians out there with alternative notions?

A tendency to "become less orderly" is not entropy (that is, that quantity of possible states a [thermodynamic] system may occupy).

Means nothing in todays world really..

Nay, it means everything (that is, "−0 ÷ x = −0 ⇔ x ≠ −0").

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Means nothing in todays world really..

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I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink

By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.

What, then, are you saying?

That collectively, our SOUL's are god

Quote from: username18333 on September 17, 2014, 12:56:01 AM

These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

(See that text emboldened.)

What do you believe "the sum of existence is absolute entropy" to mean there?

Sorry, but entropy is LAZINESS used to explain what only I can. Try being me without any understanding of entropy, and figure out as I do..

If ya really want to boil it doin to zero point, start praying for implosion, for only then will we know that after said implosion, all that will exist is what went before..

Water, (where we came from) Darkness, (Form exists only to thine eye's) and OUR spirit, that spirit of GOD.

(That post distinguishes between "an absolute tendency to become less orderly" and "absolute entropy.")

Dude, when I say entropy is laziness, I say so knowing that it is a word invented to create the opposite of what was created in the beginning.. from the big bang to zero point, the alpha and omega.. with one slight difference.. there was no big bang. So there will be no zero point. That 'space' up there, is nothing more than a singular life entity, and when it draw's IT's last breath, we, the virus living on ONE atom, will die. Many other eternally big guys n gals known as god's shall continue. We are but a part of a being called god. He has a life span as much as the next life.

Well, I reckon since no-one else would dare come out with what only an Aquarian would.. any other Aquarians out there with alternative notions?

A tendency to "become less orderly" is not entropy (that is, that quantity of possible states a [thermodynamic] system may occupy).

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Dude, when I say entropy is laziness, I say so knowing that it is a word invented to create the opposite of what was created in the beginning.. from the big bang to zero point, the alpha and omega.. with one slight difference.. there was no big bang. So there will be no zero point. That 'space' up there, is nothing more than a singular life entity, and when it draw's IT's last breath, we, the virus living on ONE atom, will die. Many other eternally big guys n gals known as god's shall continue. We are but a part of a being called god. He has a life span as much as the next life.

Well, I reckon since no-one else would dare come out with what only an Aquarian would.. any other Aquarians out there with alternative notions?

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I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink

By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.

What, then, are you saying?

That collectively, our SOUL's are god

Quote from: username18333 on September 17, 2014, 12:56:01 AM

These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

(See that text emboldened.)

What do you believe "the sum of existence is absolute entropy" to mean there?

Sorry, but entropy is LAZINESS used to explain what only I can. Try being me without any understanding of entropy, and figure out as I do..

If ya really want to boil it doin to zero point, start praying for implosion, for only then will we know that after said implosion, all that will exist is what went before..

Water, (where we came from) Darkness, (Form exists only to thine eye's) and OUR spirit, that spirit of GOD.

(That post distinguishes between "an absolute tendency to become less orderly" and "absolute entropy.")

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When god said "let there be light" we created the big bang I suppose..

Keep in mind time existed before god did anything, for everything he did was IN time, not without it, or external to it.

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I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink

By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.

What, then, are you saying?

That collectively, our SOUL's are god

Quote from: username18333 on September 17, 2014, 12:56:01 AM

These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

(See that text emboldened.)

What do you believe "the sum of existence is absolute entropy" to mean there?

Sorry, but entropy is LAZINESS used to explain what only I can. Try being me without any understanding of entropy, and figure out as I do..

If ya really want to boil it doin to zero point, start praying for implosion, for only then will we know that after said implosion, all that will exist is what went before..

Water, (where we came from) Darkness, (Form exists only to thine eye's) and OUR spirit, that spirit of GOD.

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 20, 2014, 06:16:33 PM

Quote from: username18333 on October 20, 2014, 05:55:55 PM

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Quote from: username18333 on October 20, 2014, 05:53:07 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 20, 2014, 05:09:35 PM

I been saying it over and over.. I see god as the ALL SOUL. This could be defined as the universal consciousnous.. I dont believe we have 'seperate' soul's from each other, but that we have a PART of ONE soul, and THAT would be god, and any religion speaking in the name of god that CHOOSE's to grant THEIR member's right's over any other as a cult or sect, like say, freemasonry, rosicrucian, illuminate, judaism, bhuddism, catholic, protestant.. yeah, ya get the idea..

As for those nippy git's who think or make out that when I say I believe in god, means I believe in their's, is to make me understand why so many other religions want them dead.

God willing of course Wink

By "the universal consciousness" do you mean "the zero-point field."

No.

What, then, are you saying?

That collectively, our SOUL's are god

Quote from: username18333 on September 17, 2014, 12:56:01 AM

These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

(See that text emboldened.)

What do you believe "the sum of existence is absolute entropy" to mean there?

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God and 'the light' are 2 seperate entities, one creating the other.

Quote from: St. John link=http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1_1-2/

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.

(Emphasis mine.)

Oh boy. Now we have sound added. Or was it the written Word?

And here, you will eventually, (for I have no idea of your age) discover, that in the beginning, water existed. So did the dark above it. It was the 'Spirit' of god that created the first MOVEMENT as IT moved ON the water. To dis my introduction of SOUND is to forget a f(o)und-a-mental process, that purposefull vibration that filled the VOID with SOUND. If the water sat on nothing, or was not contained, it would be spread so vast as to appear as non-existant, yet the spirit of god moved ON/OVER the deep, not THROUGH the mist of time. To dis my introduction of SOUND is to forget your book, for the first word's EVER spoken, according to your book, were "let there be light" - The universe is a mental process, and we are all a part of that creation.

Within Christianity, "Epistle" trumps "Torah," and "Gospel" trumps that.

They do like to trump themselve's..

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