Scientific proof that God exists? - page 457.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I'm comin for you for real mate, I guarantee that you have made so many enemies in this forum already that it wont be too long before I'm posting your details all over the place.. feel free to do same.. am no a keyboard coward like you.. just look at how you walk in on other peoples lives and fuck it up? I'm the cunt that will do you for real.

You know... I'm just going to say you're a quack. I doubt you can even find my country on a map.

But enough about you and me. This is a thread about imaginary gods...

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I dont HAVE a fuckin god you fuckin twat, your like the idiot who walks in a pub and gets a wiff of booze and suddenly your the man, but if you'd been in the pub long enough, you'd realise every cunt wants tae kick the shit ooty ye, but yer too pissed tae take the fuckin hint.. your nowt but a coward behind a keyboard, wi nae girlfriend tae wake up the way only I know how to..

Sorry, don't have the CPU cycles to parse all those errors.

Tell you what - believe in whatever you want to believe and be at peace with yourself. It's the ONLY way you will win. Just ignore the truth.

Start your "poll" to kick me off and I'll pack up my stuff in the morning. Sad

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Quote from: Vod on October 02, 2014, 01:08:57 AM

Education is your friend! Don't be gullible!

Quote from: Kurt Gödel

Every error is caused by emotions and education (implicit and explicit); intellect by itself (not disturbed by anything outside) could not err.

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Dude, your just bein a fuckin arse. But have no fear.. A pole to vot(e) you off this forum will do the trick methinks..

You mean a poll?

Seriously dude, rethink your life strategy. Your god is clearly not educating you...

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now fuck off..

lol "jesus" people are so negative. Wink

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Quote from: AliceWonder on October 02, 2014, 01:17:05 AM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:25:36 PM

It is easy to get disappointed in God when things don't go the way we want them to.

And it is easy to give god credit when things are going swell.

It's called confirmation bias.

But take a look around, things go badly for the "godly" and things go well for the "godly".
Things go poorly for the "un-godly" and things go swell for the "un-godly"

Look at it objectively - don't use the good times as "evidence" of his providence and then come up with pat answers when they take a turn to shit.
That's the fallacy of confirmation bias, making excuses for the evidence to fit your pre-formed conclusion.

But back to what he was saying - where was God when he wasn't employed?

Where was the damn church? That at least is real. Were they willing to help him, or only if he got on knees and prayed where they could see him to affirm their own faith?

The church is full of people who only care about themselves, and use God as an excuse for their selfishness.

What I dont get with my point there, was how much space does an empty church have? Why are homeless 'moved along'? They're not all tramp's or alcoholic's.. The best bit is what Jesus said.. 'what I am you shall become..' - They're all about to be made homeless.. Cause there's no money.. will the church put a roof over their heads? No. They'll send them to the next charity, bought and paid for by council tax's.. that the homeless also have to pay, even when homeless.. ouch.. but the rich are actually getting poorer faster than they realise.. and they'll have no choice but to look to the more experienced homeless to help them find a safe cardboard box..

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Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:25:36 PM

It is easy to get disappointed in God when things don't go the way we want them to.

And it is easy to give god credit when things are going swell.

It's called confirmation bias.

But take a look around, things go badly for the "godly" and things go well for the "godly".
Things go poorly for the "un-godly" and things go swell for the "un-godly"

Look at it objectively - don't use the good times as "evidence" of his providence and then come up with pat answers when they take a turn to shit.
That's the fallacy of confirmation bias, making excuses for the evidence to fit your pre-formed conclusion.

But back to what he was saying - where was God when he wasn't employed?

Where was the damn church? That at least is real. Were they willing to help him, or only if he got on knees and prayed where they could see him to affirm their own faith?

The church is full of people who only care about themselves, and use God as an excuse for their selfishness.

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Yeah, and by your definition, your a tit tae, as your avatar state's.. actin like ye dinae believe in god sittin in a thread dedicated to the search for, if you dont believe, no interested, or if your no searchin, fuck off..

If however you've read this as far back as my point, I was asked to take part in this thread and do so as a mod, take the hint..

You mean you're a tit tae. Roll Eyes

I'm not a mod. Enjoy your thread.

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Your a knob.

You mean you're a knob.

Education is your friend! Don't be gullible!

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Then why reply to a thread that is clearly for those interested in such a subject, if you think like that?

I'm not brainwashed, but find it a bigger challenge than empying bank accounts..

I just find it ~~interesting~~ pathetic that two thousand years after the last "evidence", rumours still persist of an imaginary god. Wink

Peace be with you my friend.

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Did what he wrote make sense to you?

Nah, when gullible people start spewing about their gods, it's best to ignore them. No one has ever shown any proof that there is some magical being that we cannot see. After 20 years on the net, I've seen the same arguements hundreds of times. There has been no new evidence in over 2,000 years - why are people still being brainwashed? Undecided

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Stop plagarising, and say what your trying to say in YOUR OWN words, not a site everyone usually avoid's..

lol - the irony of that statement in this thread is immense.

When has a brainwashed person EVER used their own words? It's ALWAYS words written by drunk people over two thousand years ago.

"It was written 2,000 years ago so it MUST be true!" Roll Eyes

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Knowledge could but approximate existence.

By thermodynamics, existence, which is an isolated system, would "spontaneously evolve towards thermodynamic equilibrium, the configuration with maximum entropy" (Wikipedia).

Nothing, then, is lost to everything.

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But no-ones asking?

You are quoting yourself.. never tried emailing myself..

I know I should be responsible for my ship, but why should I when it's on autopilot?

Edit: Fuck it, I'm going that way Cool

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 05:52:58 PM

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on October 01, 2014, 05:44:54 PM

Can it really be that both these things are true?

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on October 01, 2014, 04:06:48 PM

"You need do nothing. You are not responsible."
--AND--
"You will EARN your way by standing responsible for self"

My discernment tells me that these two are contradictory.

I do not wish to post any further on this point, but you may contact me privately.

It's one thing to talk to yourself dude, but to show the world you quote yourself?

I do not want to speak for anyone else's discernment. The link to my post/question is embedded in the quote, which I have modified to fit the context.

I have been thinking about it, and I do not want to post any more on this point. Please contact me privately and clarify what you are asking of me.

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Quote from: bl4kjaguar on October 01, 2014, 05:44:54 PM

Can it really be that both these things are true?

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on October 01, 2014, 04:06:48 PM

"You need do nothing. You are not responsible."
--AND--
"You will EARN your way by standing responsible for self"

My discernment tells me that these two are contradictory.

I do not wish to post any further on this point, but you may contact me privately.

It's one thing to talk to yourself dude, but to show the world you quote yourself?

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Can it really be that both these things are true?

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on October 01, 2014, 04:06:48 PM

"You need do nothing. You are not responsible."
--AND--
"You will EARN your way by standing responsible for self"

My discernment tells me that these two are contradictory.

I do not wish to post any further on this point, but you may contact me privately.

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Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 05:03:44 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:59:00 PM

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:13:52 PM

I got a better idea, lets try this bitchick..

My last job was warden for city of edinburgh council in the temp accomodation for the homeless.. laid off on 7th jan, never claimed benefit's for over 7 months, as I thought, ok, lets see how far I get using NO money.

Did god provide food? No, because laws prevent planting it. So he could not feed me. I sold a plethora of nice synths to survive. Eventually I ran out of things to sell. Did god feed me? No. I haggled and bargained to the point folks got fed up with me including family and close friends.. where was your god when I ended up almost starving to death?

Where was Jesus?

In the end, I had to get off my fuckin arse and get my shit together. Cause I knew god, even if he could, could NOT help due to the laws in place.

It is easy to get disappointed in God when things don't go the way we want them to. But it isn't like God is our giant Santa Claus in the sky. He doesn't promise us a life of no pain or suffering. He promises to walk with us through it, if we allow Him and ask Him to. Also, as a Christian, I am called to be like Christ. What did Jesus go through? He went through hunger, homelessness, rejection, persecution and even death on a cross. Who am I to say that God has to give me anything? If all Jesus ever does for me is forgive my sins and give me the hope of heaven, then that is enough and I will be forever grateful. However, every good and perfect gift does come from the hand of God and He has been very good to me even in this physical life I am living now. (not that I haven't had suffering by any means! We all suffer. We are living in a fallen world with pain, sickness, death, etc. all around us)

What gives you the right to even think, let alone claim I was dissapointed? I already knew God would not help, I knew no-one else would either, just like the christian churches, so much space, gold etc, but so many people going homeless, whilst they fat cunts in rome got you ass kissin so they can get fatter.. Yeah, god prefers you over a homeless person.. sez it all..

I assumed you were disappointed because you said, "Where was your God when I ended up almost starving to death?" That sounded like you were disappointed.

You are right. The church should be there for you. We are supposed to be the hands of Jesus. He even says, "Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for me." So if there was some people that were supposed to help you in the "church" and they did not, they will be held accountable for that someday. Just because someone is in a church does not mean that they are living the way that they should.

Question, when you were homeless, did you pray? Did you sincerely ask God to help, or did you just shake your fist in the sky and say, "God I hate you for allowing me to go through this!? There is a difference. God gives grace to the humble. He comes to those that ask. We need to ask though. God will never push Himself on us. He waits for us to approach Him.

I was'nt actually homeless, Though I have been as a teen, but here's a story you'll love, because like I say, I cant choose sides..

Decides to visiit a friend in the country, 44 mile bike run, 13 miles of that is uphill over soutra hill here in scotland.. a third of the way there, get's a puncture.. having forgot my puncture kit, i'm pushing my bike to my mates with a 5-6 hour walk ahead of me.. gets to the last bend before the start of the hill, starts to rain.. I looks up at the sky, and curse, 'what next ya dick?' - another puncture in the front tyre.. aaargh.. remind me not to do that agin I thought.. eventually gets to the foot of the 13 mile uphill hike, mega rain..
Some grafter in a van says, where ya goin dude? Lauder.. jump in Wink

Well, maybe if you hadn't called God a "dick" the van He sent would have come sooner? Grin

Nah, the timing was perfect, I love the rain and the outdours, but it's fuckin embarassin pushin a 3 grand mountain bike Wink

Edit: But it did teach me someone was listening Wink

Next time instead of shouting at God and being angry when difficulties come (which they will come) just pray and ask for His help and see what happens then.

I'm more likely to call him a dick again knowing I'll at least get his attention that way lol..

Edit: Insult, confirm, be humble.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I would be cautious if I were you, it is not a wise thing to insult God. Although God is merciful and patient, He does have a limit and I wouldn't want to test Him.

He put me on this earth to test EVERYONE and EVERYTHING.. and in my current opinion, right now, I'd rather humanity was wiped out just so every other life form can be saved. After all, if there is another 'coming', then why not?

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Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:59:00 PM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:56:54 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:54:01 PM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:52:18 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:50:19 PM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:42:35 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:36:45 PM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:25:36 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:13:52 PM

I got a better idea, lets try this bitchick..

My last job was warden for city of edinburgh council in the temp accomodation for the homeless.. laid off on 7th jan, never claimed benefit's for over 7 months, as I thought, ok, lets see how far I get using NO money.

Did god provide food? No, because laws prevent planting it. So he could not feed me. I sold a plethora of nice synths to survive. Eventually I ran out of things to sell. Did god feed me? No. I haggled and bargained to the point folks got fed up with me including family and close friends.. where was your god when I ended up almost starving to death?

Where was Jesus?

In the end, I had to get off my fuckin arse and get my shit together. Cause I knew god, even if he could, could NOT help due to the laws in place.

It is easy to get disappointed in God when things don't go the way we want them to. But it isn't like God is our giant Santa Claus in the sky. He doesn't promise us a life of no pain or suffering. He promises to walk with us through it, if we allow Him and ask Him to. Also, as a Christian, I am called to be like Christ. What did Jesus go through? He went through hunger, homelessness, rejection, persecution and even death on a cross. Who am I to say that God has to give me anything? If all Jesus ever does for me is forgive my sins and give me the hope of heaven, then that is enough and I will be forever grateful. However, every good and perfect gift does come from the hand of God and He has been very good to me even in this physical life I am living now. (not that I haven't had suffering by any means! We all suffer. We are living in a fallen world with pain, sickness, death, etc. all around us)

What gives you the right to even think, let alone claim I was dissapointed? I already knew God would not help, I knew no-one else would either, just like the christian churches, so much space, gold etc, but so many people going homeless, whilst they fat cunts in rome got you ass kissin so they can get fatter.. Yeah, god prefers you over a homeless person.. sez it all..

I assumed you were disappointed because you said, "Where was your God when I ended up almost starving to death?" That sounded like you were disappointed.

You are right. The church should be there for you. We are supposed to be the hands of Jesus. He even says, "Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for me." So if there was some people that were supposed to help you in the "church" and they did not, they will be held accountable for that someday. Just because someone is in a church does not mean that they are living the way that they should.

Question, when you were homeless, did you pray? Did you sincerely ask God to help, or did you just shake your fist in the sky and say, "God I hate you for allowing me to go through this!? There is a difference. God gives grace to the humble. He comes to those that ask. We need to ask though. God will never push Himself on us. He waits for us to approach Him.

I was'nt actually homeless, Though I have been as a teen, but here's a story you'll love, because like I say, I cant choose sides..

Decides to visiit a friend in the country, 44 mile bike run, 13 miles of that is uphill over soutra hill here in scotland.. a third of the way there, get's a puncture.. having forgot my puncture kit, i'm pushing my bike to my mates with a 5-6 hour walk ahead of me.. gets to the last bend before the start of the hill, starts to rain.. I looks up at the sky, and curse, 'what next ya dick?' - another puncture in the front tyre.. aaargh.. remind me not to do that agin I thought.. eventually gets to the foot of the 13 mile uphill hike, mega rain..
Some grafter in a van says, where ya goin dude? Lauder.. jump in Wink

Well, maybe if you hadn't called God a "dick" the van He sent would have come sooner? Grin

Nah, the timing was perfect, I love the rain and the outdours, but it's fuckin embarassin pushin a 3 grand mountain bike Wink

Edit: But it did teach me someone was listening Wink

Next time instead of shouting at God and being angry when difficulties come (which they will come) just pray and ask for His help and see what happens then.

I'm more likely to call him a dick again knowing I'll at least get his attention that way lol..

Edit: Insult, confirm, be humble.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I would be cautious if I were you, it is not a wise thing to insult God. Although God is merciful and patient, He does have a limit and I wouldn't want to test Him.

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Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:56:54 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:54:01 PM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:52:18 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:50:19 PM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:42:35 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:36:45 PM

Quote from: BitChick on October 01, 2014, 04:25:36 PM

Quote from: Decksperiment on October 01, 2014, 04:13:52 PM

I got a better idea, lets try this bitchick..

My last job was warden for city of edinburgh council in the temp accomodation for the homeless.. laid off on 7th jan, never claimed benefit's for over 7 months, as I thought, ok, lets see how far I get using NO money.

Did god provide food? No, because laws prevent planting it. So he could not feed me. I sold a plethora of nice synths to survive. Eventually I ran out of things to sell. Did god feed me? No. I haggled and bargained to the point folks got fed up with me including family and close friends.. where was your god when I ended up almost starving to death?

Where was Jesus?

In the end, I had to get off my fuckin arse and get my shit together. Cause I knew god, even if he could, could NOT help due to the laws in place.

It is easy to get disappointed in God when things don't go the way we want them to. But it isn't like God is our giant Santa Claus in the sky. He doesn't promise us a life of no pain or suffering. He promises to walk with us through it, if we allow Him and ask Him to. Also, as a Christian, I am called to be like Christ. What did Jesus go through? He went through hunger, homelessness, rejection, persecution and even death on a cross. Who am I to say that God has to give me anything? If all Jesus ever does for me is forgive my sins and give me the hope of heaven, then that is enough and I will be forever grateful. However, every good and perfect gift does come from the hand of God and He has been very good to me even in this physical life I am living now. (not that I haven't had suffering by any means! We all suffer. We are living in a fallen world with pain, sickness, death, etc. all around us)

What gives you the right to even think, let alone claim I was dissapointed? I already knew God would not help, I knew no-one else would either, just like the christian churches, so much space, gold etc, but so many people going homeless, whilst they fat cunts in rome got you ass kissin so they can get fatter.. Yeah, god prefers you over a homeless person.. sez it all..

I assumed you were disappointed because you said, "Where was your God when I ended up almost starving to death?" That sounded like you were disappointed.

You are right. The church should be there for you. We are supposed to be the hands of Jesus. He even says, "Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for me." So if there was some people that were supposed to help you in the "church" and they did not, they will be held accountable for that someday. Just because someone is in a church does not mean that they are living the way that they should.

Question, when you were homeless, did you pray? Did you sincerely ask God to help, or did you just shake your fist in the sky and say, "God I hate you for allowing me to go through this!? There is a difference. God gives grace to the humble. He comes to those that ask. We need to ask though. God will never push Himself on us. He waits for us to approach Him.

I was'nt actually homeless, Though I have been as a teen, but here's a story you'll love, because like I say, I cant choose sides..

Decides to visiit a friend in the country, 44 mile bike run, 13 miles of that is uphill over soutra hill here in scotland.. a third of the way there, get's a puncture.. having forgot my puncture kit, i'm pushing my bike to my mates with a 5-6 hour walk ahead of me.. gets to the last bend before the start of the hill, starts to rain.. I looks up at the sky, and curse, 'what next ya dick?' - another puncture in the front tyre.. aaargh.. remind me not to do that agin I thought.. eventually gets to the foot of the 13 mile uphill hike, mega rain..
Some grafter in a van says, where ya goin dude? Lauder.. jump in Wink

Well, maybe if you hadn't called God a "dick" the van He sent would have come sooner? Grin

Nah, the timing was perfect, I love the rain and the outdours, but it's fuckin embarassin pushin a 3 grand mountain bike Wink

Edit: But it did teach me someone was listening Wink

Next time instead of shouting at God and being angry when difficulties come (which they will come) just pray and ask for His help and see what happens then.

I'm more likely to call him a dick again knowing I'll at least get his attention that way lol..

Edit: Insult, confirm, be humble.

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