Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 484. (Read 845804 times)

The whole Flying Spaghetti Monster comparison is a priori invalid.  Its characterization is similar to a polytheistic god and not a monotheistic one.  In short, it's a miserable failure of an attack against the existence of God.

On the face of it, I disagree that "the thread of salvation through the Messiah runs throughout the whole" of the Bible. I found that the Dead Sea Scrolls support my position:

The messiah, according to Jewish [and early Christian] belief, was not a God that would deliver his people by clearing their way to heaven. The messiah was to be an empowered King who would destroy the enemies of the Jews and regain their Holy Land.

Again, when you research the way that the Bible (particularly the Old Testament) came into existence, and the time periods and different authors, and the thread of salvation through the Messiah that runs throughout the whole thing, you will see that the Bible can't exist. There are too many improbabilities attached to the way that it came into being.

So, what does this mean? It is one of the major evidences that God exists. And the descriptions of God in the Bible show that He is not the FSM, or anything like the FSM.

Search on things like "history of the Bible" or "Who wrote the Bible" or "traditions behind Bible existence" or other such search wording. What's interesting is that the DuckDuckGo search engine - https://duckduckgo.com/ - often brings up a variety of sites in searches that Google and Bing often don't show. Try them.

The FSM hypothesis is not powerful enough to explain the evidence for survival:


Is FSM going to give us any information at all? I challenge you to explain the evidence using the FSM thesis.

So OP, did we answer your question?

Ok, fair enough, since fish can fall from the sky, it's fair to see they need a mermaid lol, justwait till it rains cats n dogs..

God is alien to us. But since He came as Jesus, He is not alien as well. 

Anyone here seen an episode of Ancient Aliens where they said the earth is a big big aquarium and someone is looking above us but its not god. Its them.

Scientific proof that God exists?

Say after me:

I AM

The sound is the proof you need. What more needs said?

Um, I'm surviving fine, musta missed a boat there...

My heads on overtime, fuck me, as I see it, I know what I'm talking about with this alpha and omega thing, I mean, it would actually be the best way to describe what was seen in my dream. If I am correct, then this thread made me believe I have at least seen the sucker..

And know how to induce the 'vibe' anytime, though I think I lost it as a kid. Maybe that's what I get for not so much 'believing' but 'knowing' what I was looking at.. Allow me to describe it.. the best way to describe it is to lay down and go to sleep, but dont ACTUALLY fall asleep.. get to the point where you feel really really heavy man, like wasted heavy, and stay right there.. if you last without entering the falling dream, score!!

Ps, it's the vibrations experienced at viewing point that are sickening.. kinda queesy sick.. but not scary etc..

So where is all of that going?

I thought we were discussing the survival hypnothesis?

Maybe I am missing background material; kindly point me in the right direction.

Ok, I'll try again: Seth Speaks.mp3, had it 10 years now in my library, and yes I've listened to it a few times, it is unaltered, and I would consider it origional, at least I have done nothing to it.. no need to interpret a book when I have THE scource recording, the book refers to.

As for the lake of memory, or river of forgetfullness, most who know of this relate it to the river Marduk on Jupiter, I believe it is the eridaniel stream. This is the river dante's ferrymn takes you across. The thing is, if I can try wording this correctly:

Once onboard the ship, you will be taken to the other side, but it is so vast a river that you drink from the river, or you forget to drink, I forget at this point which is which, but it is from a star chart

Edit: Looked at star chart, it's eridanus. Interesting stuff to know it starts at orion no? and where does it go? Wow, in fact, it starts at the bottom right of orion and continues out of our galaxy!!!

(incidently completing 7 sections of time-space - also known as summer.

At this point I think it only fair to say, that before these latest posts were made, I have given lots of seemingly un-connected points in this search for proof. Some of these posts describe what it says in exodus. not that I am, but the alpha and omega. This I have dreamed. This leads me to state that if I have, others have too. In earlier posts I have occasionally touched on this alpha and omega, or and I quote, being inside a bigger thing'. hmmm.. again. Here was me hoping I gave the OP his answer, cause if what I saw over and over IS the image of the alpha and omega, and the bible says it is (if not) an image of god, then I am not the only one who knows what this alpha and omega looks like, correct?

Seth describes dreams and dream interpretation in "The Nature of Personal Reality"; maybe I should quote from it?

And what is that supposed to mean? Are you ready to give a complete explanation of how that is supposed to work? Because the survival hypothesis could use your elucidation!
Also, I am curious; want to grasp what you are talking about...

Am only quoting your quote here.. "The simplest and most reasonable solution is that the information was derived from the mind of the deceased person."

Edit: This material was scourced from the lake of memory that is so vast you forget to drink.

Eridaniel (hope I spelt it right) another 'etheric stream' above our heads in space, not quite like the milky way, akin to the river MARDUK on jupiter..

Well, whilst awaiting replies, I thought of a burning bush.. and a man going insane, who heard a bush that spontaniously combusted saying.. I AM (hot, please put me out)

Dude, I have seen this image, the alpha and omega. So clearly whilst asleep, (so the 'seeing' sense is inactive, eye's closed n stuff..) I know myself I can describe it, but to do so properly would require some shit hot hypnotist in order to make a new 'Decks not seth speaks.mp3' lol, crazy shit. But I've seen THAT image, over and over again, and believe me, it can get quite sickening when ya 'go with the flow' in it..

All I can say is thanks, now I gotta go find me someone who actually knows about dreams to describe what I've drawn pictures of since I was born.. cause it is amazing.. but it, in my opinion, is not god, for there is a far greater thing..

Here is one example of high-quality evidence of the survival of the personality:


2 page PDF:
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/Cases_51-75/case56_soule-soul.pdf

That depends on whether humans can sense or communicate with I AM directly. Personally, I doubt it.

What I'm trying to get at here, is I have seen what can only be described as the a/o 'image' or dream. Does that mean I have seen god?

Never heard of it.. but ya gotta admit, it's better than wondering how that snake will take a shit after..