Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 500. (Read 845801 times)

I have detailed instructions on how to 're-start' that machine.. clues are already posted.. including the 'device' used.. for those with eyes to see.. if they were gouged out, google it.. lol.. a hint is in my posts re: star maps.. cant remember whit thread it's in.. I learnt this from a shaman's drum.

Depends on what do you mean by "God". If you think God is a person, who sends good people to heaven and bad people to hell - then no. His rules are impossible to follow. If they were true, no one would ever go to heaven.

This is the best formulation of a proof that God in the Bible/Quran/Other religions is man made. Probably has a logo too.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

There are forces in the Universe that we do not understand yet. It's a proven fact that everything has a magnetic field. We are all connected. Literally. Science has proven that. Planets even have auras. So again - depends on your concept of god. But to believe in Jesus, or Satan is hilarious.

Again, in simple English, the evidence for God is the existence of the kind of universe we live in.

For a moment, get any preconceived notions of God as you have heard of him through the religions, out of your mind. Then consider the following.

The whole universe, all of nature, acts like a gigantic, ultra-complex machine. Machines have makers.

At the same time we see the machine, everything is wearing out, running down, like a clock that needs to be wound up. We see nothing in nature that can make a machine anything like the universe. We don't see anything that can wind the clock of nature up again. Nothing!

If nature were not so complex, if we could figure it out in detail, then maybe there isn't a God. But, simply because of the way the whole universe and nature exist, there has to be a God. Machines have makers. And this Maker is way beyond us, far greater than we can ever think to be.

Proof is in the eye of the beholder. But the evidence is so overwhelmingly great that there simply is no other way.

It all boils down to the simple fact that you need to be initiated into the kind of visual given upon initiation, where you see a figure 'not' of this world, again, with the wheels upon wheels on his finger.. This is the cause of the fear that cause masons to shut the fuck up.. not cause they know better, but cause of what will happen to them if they speak of HIM. Now the real question is, that since HE is mentioned in a multitude of different religious books, then it would be fair to say that SOMEONE with humanish form, is capable of striking mortal fear into ANYONE who see's him..

This 'lifeform' is not human (cant be, as any or all would be able to view him..)

So what is he?

He is mentioned throughout time.

"Few are the men who have looked upon that mighty face and lived.."

"Let he who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast.."

Google the wheels upon wheels, and dont tell me there is NO fuckin evidence of another lifeform that can assume a human form, not only that, but has the intelligence to not only put on, but wear a ring, and most are at least minutely aware of the symbolism of the ring they wear. Who designed the ring? This ring is thousands of years old. Who made the ring? What does he sit on if his body is of fire?

Again, your all asking the same questions asked throughout time. At least I got the savvy to ask slightly different questions that can be researched for sure..

Edit: lets pretend for a second that the orbit's of the angels, lords, or planets, are the wheels of this ring, (more likely true) all these orbits on a ring.. (circumference of our solar system?) this would mean another larger circular orbit.. with a 'finger' possibly being.. the tree of y'gdrasil, d'jed, or apprentice pillar.. now since this body is of light, it would be reasonably safe to assume so is the finger.. This 'finger' would be the energy shooting from the top/bottom of our own sphere, as it does every other sphere.. it could represent the same energy released in the same fashion from the center of our solar system, or it could be from the center of our galaxy.. if this is acceptable, then the figure with the wheels upon wheels on his finger is NOT from below since 'below' is viewed as 'inside' the earth, and 'NOT' underneath, ie, beneath planet earth. So now that we have established that the finger is not only documented, but written in stone, and scientifically proven, it's reasonably safe to say that actually, The proof is written everywhere..

God does exist.

Though I'm still on the fence

If you like I'll tell you about my supernatural encounters. Though this would be derailing the thread as it's not relevant.

If you think I'm going to buy into that Jane Roberts & Seth is some sort of proof of god you are mistaken. After all that's the topic of the thread.
If you wish to start a supernatural thread by all means be my guest. I may even add my very own supernatural natural encounters to it. On 2 occasions to be exact. I haven't added them to this thread as IMO they don't belong in here. Do I class them prove/evidence of god? No. I don't fill in the blanks what I don't understand, with god.


 

Yeah you have read my link? Or yeah something else? Try that link if you don't want to read the rest of this post. 


OK, maybe you are telling us a fact;
what about all the old views that are being challenged?

That is a great item for discussion (especially if you have nothing new to say)!

I hope that with our discussion we can help make clear what is the bigger picture surrounding these facts:

OK, please if you could answer some of my questions.  

I agree that Jesus died because he willed himself to do so.  Once you reach a certain level of consciousness, you can only die if you will yourself to die.  I am at that stage for if anyone tried to kill me, they would only prove my beliefs right.

I would need you to elaborate more on what you mean by eternal death and punishment.  I don't feel that is a law but a belief system rather.

Yeah I heard of Jane Roberts, I don't think she was a fraud, my guess it was some sort of inner workings of her subconscious mind with some ESP chucked in. Spooky that one.

My research, done mine. My research found there is nothing to research because:

What, I give you a truthfull explanation and you reply with this?

Do the fuckin research yourself you fuckin twat..

to quote you.. "so I would like for you to try to tell me again what you are trying to say here"

My answer: I have in my possesion the exact instructions on how to remember the lives of the past, I did say I MAY be wrong, but wont know UNTIL i can do the fuckin RITUAL.

Go ahead and have all the opinions you like!
Just explain each of them as best as you can, including some words as to how they relate,
then carefully revise what you have written, at least 3 times; 7 is better.

A fool will open his mouth to speak, but a wise person will carefully consider his words. I don't think you are a fool, but I have not yet understood your words, so I would like for you to try to tell me again what you are trying to say here:

Aquarians contradict themselves quite often, especially when explaining to others that which they dont know how to convey to others, so use's what they believe the other would understand to create the point.. To understand an aquarian contradiction is to understand that they are so far ahead that they need to sloooow down and take things nice n easy, maybe explain things in a child like manner.. to the majority of the people..

The personality, being housed in the brain, not the arm or the arse, will die around 6-7 months after death, after all it is a fact that the brain still produces electrical signals for 6-7 months after death, so it's reasonably safe to assume that as long as the brain produces electricity, the personality, and all other functions of the MIND may in fact still be compus mentus.. although the body is physically DEAD.

Once the entire body is dead, (will cremation be quicker to answer your question?) death, your afterlife, is eternal. Existance will still be, but our body having decayed/burnt to dust, no longer exists in the form we know. we know we turn to dust, eternal dust.. forever and ever..

But to have in my possesion the exact instructions on how to remember the lives of the past, is to say, well, even I must be wrong, but cant know until I can follow the instructions, which can only be done on deaths door.

May I suggest people get rid of contradict, 'cause it's like we're not allowed to have several conflicting opinions, depending on whatever reasoning that brought us to have such contradictory thought's/opinions, it's almost akin to being unable to change our fuckin minds..

Hey, your post has an apparent contradiction in it; observe:

Does the personality survive after death? If so, then death is NOT eternal.
Yet you claim that death IS eternal, indicating NO existence after death (NO survival).

Did you already post the explanation for this contradiction? Or would you care to explain it now?

It's not a book; it is a research paper.

Research papers set forth theories all the time; they do so by analyzing facts within an objective framework.

If you have a better theory than what Cunningham has proposed, then I am eager to hear it! Assuming, of course, you have already read and thought through his critiques of the competing theories...


I WILL wait for you to do your research. A lot of important theories were published in books and research papers, that does not mean that they are all right, it just means that we should not wish them away!

Or man is trying to steal gods work like he steals everything else, by deception.

I remember as a kid, I helped the old folks carry message bags, sometimes I earned a quid or two.. along came freemasonry who infiltrated the council and said, we are the new charity, make all people's niceties illegal so we can be THE only charity, that way, anyone mess's with us, they receive no charity.. welcome to the new world order, where helping anyone gets you beat up or shot by police.

Actually I believe that most of these believers are 'sheep'.
So according to them God gave every man a 'free will', correct?
If you don't live/act like the Church/Bible etc. tells you to, then according to them you've sided with the Devil (or whatever). That makes no logic at all.

Either God does exist but this Church/Bible is all fake nonsense; or God doesn't exist and it's still nonsense.

Just noticed this.. quite good..

Am obviously not dyslexic, but what about if we take J(Z)a-BAAL-On and break it into it's respective parts..

J is to Z is to Y, Ja?
Zeboulon is the 'unclean' version of JaBaalOn.
Ja is of Yaweh, the christian bible, apparently only those who know his name can say it.. now that to me was funny when I read it.. Baal is the cananite fertility god who demanded sacrifice's of kid's to appease them.. (rite of mithras, being the first rite held in giza 64000 years ago) An On, being Osiris, who IS Sirius, the main star on the chest of (the sphinx) the constellation Canis Major, or the star of bethlehem.

Incidently, I study certain 'pathways' not so much as a way to live, but as a possible answer hidden in the pictures in the stars, kinda like star maps..

Daniken to boval, whatever their names are, are wrong.

The three stars of orions belt are the pyramids.

Next we come to the sphinx.. no we dont, for before the sphinx, is a boat made out of stone, this is important.. but not yet required, though it is important to remember where it is. So we goto sphinx enclosure, and note the dip as the carved out enclosure to the east is lower than the horizon. Quite simply, clearly there has been a slip of land mass.. The sphinx, or anubis, protector of tombs, opener of the way, looks to the river nile.. get it?

How do you cross the milky way? In the constellation of CARINA. Fuck them books, their eye's are needin a bath..

Edit: At this point I must stress that people need to take a step back and agree on this: whatever we have read in these books is there for sure, we are witnessing much of it happening, but cant figure it, probably because we have a verion that is backwards or reversed. Accept this folks, and your on your way..

If he/she does exist, they did teach you to write, only before your body could hold a pencil, and by then you had to start again in this dumbed down society

I'm thinking that it's probably 4.
This was allegedly written by Adam. Someone said so. Did they prove that there even was a man named Adam at that time? No.

Why didn't God teach me to write too, could have saved me a lot of time as a kid.

I have to admit, I did time when I was younger, not a lot, driving offences, and petty theft.. and whilst sitting in the jail chapel (good excuse tae git ooty cell) it occured to me.. every single person who has been caught, and paid their dues on this earth, be it in fines or time, is square with THEIR lord, and need's no-one to hear such confessions, for they have paid their dues in their entirety. This includes the fuckers that stole your 3 month old kid, raped it, and died in jail. Njoi your GOD, cause he's in the job center..


Edit: As for the concept of eternal life after death.. well, I'd well hate to have to come back here and dae this pish again, thank fuck DEATH is ETERNAL, the only life we (CANT) experience.. but then again, would you like to know how to remember your PAST lives? Read the emerald tablets.. this is not the only place I have read such.. trivialities.. however, when a rich, loaded gangster says to you, wanna know how to remember past life's? It's not a good idea to say.. eh?