Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 500. (Read 845654 times)

Here is something interesting. It is also possible what most think is God, was actually ancient aliens. Look up the wiki article on Ancient Astronaut theory and how certain events in the bible could've been weapons of mass destruction from aliens.

I think you misunderstood
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If you don't accept the existence of God, you are working for the Devil by default. So that makes YOU one of HIS trolls.

I wasn't sure
Now I am
You Sir are a troll

This is exactly why God wants us to have faith. The universe and nature are full of many wonderful evidences for God. In fact, we are so close to proving that God exists by the evidences, that we are right on top of the proof. Yet, we will never get there. God is too big. We might have revelations from Him. But we won't ever quite get scientific proof. The evidences are there to show us that we don't have to have blind faith. God is making faith easy for us through the multitudes of evidences for His existence.

And where do,those super advanced aliens come from? And why did they visit us in ancient times, but not now? Have we become  too dangerous for them all of a sudden?

Why didn't they implement genes in dolphins and dogs? They are smart species as well, and what about raven?

Was their knowledge of DNA so limited that they could only manipulate apes, despite having advanced knowledge of DNA, spacetravel, communications, and many other fields of research? Or are they primate-like species themselves?

The existence of aliens, even if proven to be true, would not answer the question: "where does life come from?".

Isn't it wonderful how all these symbiants, that largely rely on each other just magically popped into existence, individually, and somehow combined into even more complex life forms? All while being part of a very efficient and fragile ecosystem that is very well balanced?

Are you really so dense to believe all of this magically popped into existence out of nowhere?

Please fill an aquarium with water and food and everything a fish needs, and see if in a million years or so a fish will swim in there. I'll save you the time and tell you, there won't be any fish, not in a day, not in a week, not Ina million years and not in a billion years. Simply because evolution does not work the way evolutionists want you to believe it does, and abiogenesis (spontaneous creation of life from non-life) is impossable.

If you really think abiogenesis is possible (which is completely based on faith, and illogical faiths as well) show me proof of where and when it occurred/occurs. If it ever happened it should happen all the time, since that's how laws of nature work, they are persistent, unlike miracles, laws of nature are constant. If we assume life is a miracle, than it makes perfect sense we don't see creation of new life every day, since the seed for life was a miracle, and it may very well have only occurred once ever. But if it was not a miracle, and a spontaneous occurrence based in nothing more than the laws of nature itself, than why don't we see it happen regularly?

I'll tell you, because  it's not true. Abiogenesis is simply not possible, it has not happened, and it will not happen. Life is life and inanimate is inanimate. Something inanimate will never come to life.

We have a sixth sense we have lost touch with.

I DID notice that question mark after the title. And, I agree that the evidence in this thread is concrete proof that there is not enough evidence in this thread for the PROOF.

The real question that I have is, are any of "them" so great that they have gone beyond controlling us in our little, everyday life? That's what I would like to know. Do they hold the answer to life itself - enough that there are some of "them" that are, say, 500 years old, and still living and thriving - for real?

At this stage, I don't even care who they are. I simply want to know if their control extends that far. Because if it doesn't, we just might have a chance at bypassing "them" and finding the proof.

You can't prove God's existence nor the contrary.

You are limited by your senses, how can you identify an object that is not detected by your senses?

I guess I side with the OP and say, in the search for god, anything we can refer to that creates said image of god everyone agrees on, then maybe he'll find the answer, cause no-one here has 'concrete' proof. The evidence I have produced is concrete proof that the structure of many societies is contained within this thread, as is evidenced when you look out your window. They created this world, you and I did as we slaved away building it.. for THEM.

Despite the proof we dream.

And can go inbetween.

Nuff said..

You are right, of course. And maybe it is a good idea that you let it out that sci-fi is fake. But, in writing at least, I'm the kind of person who's sort of like Blackie DuQuesne in Doc Smith's Skylark series - I'm for direct action, first, last and always, in the formulation stages, that is. And it is true that, to keep from losing our audience, we should be kind of covert. But what could it really hurt to come right out and say, "fiction, not science fiction?"

At last.. someone with an understanding enough to at least recognise something enough to coment.. there is no sci-fi story, that is nothing more than the remix of the same tune remixed by a plethora of writers taught the same pattern.. by adaption.

Sci fi is fake science, producing ideas discovered before you or I could copywrite it, simple using the technology of team viewer (latest adaption) like they do to fix your 'premium' account of your mobile Phone.. it is a business model used by many to confuse the mass's.. who in the end are blown up instead of those that implement the point it got to for someone to do so.

I for one will never accept as my religion as something I will defend knowing that they have broken their own laws period, by killing another human being, or allowing said process.. by using force instead of understanding why not to.. why not?

They broke their own law, and think they can make it ok.. using nothing more than a language they created in order to produce same results a multi meter is designed to produce, flame, form, and mind.

I dont mind if it dont matter..
With regards to publishing, I do have cert's in multimedia production, just cant be bothered with that direction..

The best kept secrets are best not shared online.. hahaha...

But there arte no secret's.. or they would not be able to re-produce..

Off Putting.. attention seeker with nothing.. :0

I can write pretty good, as in authoring a book. But my stories are a bit mediocre.

You have the wild stories, but your writing isn't so much the kind that people might like to read.

Maybe we should get together and write some wild science fiction. That's a good one you have there, where millions and millions of bacteria grew into people somehow. Now, we need to add the part about how they were struck by lightning, and that's when they got the idea to turn. And we need some kind of cataclysmic event that forced them to make the decision.

But there still isn't enough detail to make a smooth flowing sci-fi story. We gotta make a good part about where the bacteria came from in the first place. And we should figure out a plausible method for them to convert once they got struck by the lightning.

I was trying to get some ideas from all the different forms of evolution theory that have come and gone over the decades, but there are always too many holes in those stories. So, I looked at a lot of sci-fi stories, and the only ones that had enough info had way too many boring details.

Then again, there's so much science fiction out there that the odds of ever getting published are something like the odds that evolution could have happened... like, impossible. Besides, people are getting too smart, these days, to believe that nonsense anymore... or they simply don't have the time to care. Even the formal science sci-fi scientists are having to come up with ever wilder evolution theories, simply to keep their audience spellbound enough that they don't lose all their funding in the universities, etc.

Well, we should probably just forget the whole idea. But it is a thought. What if our evolution sci-fi stories became the dominant ones? We just might be able to make a lot of money off the true believers, like the university, evolution profs do.

Ramen to that!

How is 'what' proof of god, ie, to what are you referring?

To say we came from one woman and one man is sick. There are millions upon millions of bacteria.. which millions of years ago, grew into some form of human, the problem most dont see, is that one of these bacteria washed up on one bit of land and started to crawl until they grew legs, titties, n that lovely sweetness we all love.. and the other was on a land mass at the other side of the world. Neither knew anything about walking that far, never mind having the knowledge of building a boat, but they did see more of their kind come out of the water.. most certainly more than one or two.. ie adam and eve.

The story of adam and eve is actually a story of where to find a certain knowledge, by biting from the apple, the stupid bastard choked, was saved by, and had a knowledge of whatever 'other' side, or dont folks know anything?

I guess you are referring to the dogone tribe of mali?

The source of the DOG star etc?

How is this proof of God. It's just proof that we all descended from same couple. Actually you don't mention it but there is village in Africa who are closest descendants to this pair in the world. So scientist believe that is where they originally lived.

Well, I too am at the end of this, for aside's from those that like to fill threads with comments and pictures completely un-related to the topic in question, most of which are useless in the search for diety.., for instance, quoting books that are apparently 'god's' books, or holy books.

The evidence for 'diety' or a 'false idol' is everywhere..

Quite simply, millions of people go to pray. Fact. The rituals they do can indeed produce result's, though wether this is a result of prayer is debatable in itself.. note however I say 'ritual' instead of 'pray'.

This evidence is like yin and yang.

There are those who use a system I shall call magic which HAS proven over and over again, works.

The 'good' go to hallowed ground and do things like that 'lord's' work, the bad do the same in an opposite manner, for they worship the opposing factor's work. Regardless of which side they choose, the system used is identical, asides from one FACT. To get results considered 'Good', they go in one direction. Do get 'Bad' results, they go in an opposite direction. This is scientifically provable, for there are government's who plaster icons from either side, all over their building's, advert's etc, in the guise of logo's, another way of writing LOGOS which is the scource of all. For this LOGOS sent forth 3 devine sparks.. Flame, Form, and MIND. In the Emerald tablets, or any of the holy books, All 3, (holy trinity, three rays of light??) are scientifically PROVEN to exist, recognised more today as Flame form and fashion, or mind body and soul, to name a few, this trinity producing the human being. The origional 7 planets which the days of the week are named after, start from 3 to 7. The 'Key of the 7' found in the Emerald Tablet's shows us that there is NO 0, 1, or 2. Instead, the first '3' is shown as a triangle, that same triangle found at the center of some very factual material found online. The key of the 7 starts from 3, and finishes at 9, showing only seven FACTS from the universal language, maths. These FACTS are the days of the week, named after their respective planets, or lords.

All is repetition, the key to magic.  The Fact that churches etc exist proves nothing. That they are built to the maths of nature is SOMETHING, and VERY provable.

You see, most cant see the bigger picture, despite me dotting bit's of evidence everywhere throughout, what, 3 or 4 threads?

Nuns, priests, etc, that do their gods work do so from a church. These 'should' (for want of a better word) be doing the GOOD work, and practice what they preach.

So who are their opposing factor? For the laymen, I'll say occultists do the devils work, or the bad/evil work.. Freemasonry is occult, worshipping the dark science's, or quite simply, they do everything the preists do, but in the opposite direction, each step, each raise of the hands etc..

Both side's would NOT be doing anything resembling these 'ritual's' if they got NO results.

In the search for scientific proof of god, this is the path you must walk, in order to collect the same evidence that gave the powers that run this planet, ie, governments, their power.

Remember, magic is only knowledge unknown. Once known, it is not only wisdom, it is power.

Stonehenge was torn apart to prevent an evil one being born on this earth, an evil one whose father was a seventh son who fucked his seventh child (daughter) who was then killed on the bluestone (from atlantis) altar, on the night of a certain full moon. The daugter was with child, (pregnant), and at the point of this unborn childs birth, another child was killed at the same time, one goes out, one comes in. How many 'christian' movies show this same reminder to prevent this shit happening again?

The evidence is everywhere, for the evidence of EITHER god or the devil, me, I think they are ONE, we can prove the devil but not god? Gimme a fuckin break.. the only people wanting this evidence DONT believe in either, or have zero un-natural experience's, that would make them question the FACT that something governs (controls) this 'magic' that, of course, the majority, do not WANT believe in, regardless of the evidence.
 

You do realize the flying spaghetti monster does exist, right?  The universe is infinite.  Infinite dimensions, infinite frequencies, infinite materializations, infinite everything.  Consciousness has no end.  Nor does it have a beginning.  Everything just is.

Just because your eye can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

We are multidimensional beings.  The more you open your mind, the more you open your eye.