Topic: [SDC] ShadowCash | Welcome to the UMBRA - page 424. (Read 1289714 times)

Maybe check out this slide presentation, I think it explains it well: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yX2jN618Rnzs4g2ri_utdKdHbny6-xnRcPhOuhLNGB0/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g577a31a2a_086

Hopefully we will have some respected people review the code.  There are still some attack vectors if you don't take precautions with your amounts and timing.  For example, you transfer 27.75664321 SDC to Shadow.  Then 5 minutes later u turn the exact same amount less the fee back to SDC, its going to be pretty obvious.  As for the crypto, there are probably some attack vectors if the ring sizes are too small and such things.  I am not an expert, but Rynomster the lead dev should be coming back soon to help clarify our questions.  He has been sick with the flu lately.

Also as for off-chain/on-chain solutions that depends on what your exact definitions of those things are.  But taking it to mean one way, it could suggest that an off-chain solution is a centralized solution.  This causes problems with trust.  On-chain solutions have issues as well.  I think coin-join solutions kind of fall short, and have too many attack vectors from a government adversary.  Zero knowledge crypto is a much better solution in my opinon, and it should be done "on-chain" depending on your definition, and it should be done with zero trust as well. Some of the crypto has to be set up using a trust model, trusting on the people who set it up, but from what I understand Shadow is striving to eliminate that need for trust, and still have complete zero knowledge anonymity.

I am not able to compare them. What does it mean? Is there anything for dummies?
Between are you looking for a code audit or the tech is already bulletproof against all possible attack vectors?
Once I heard on this forum that an anon off-chain solution is better than an on-chain one, is it true?

Seen the benchmarks in the wp? Not able to compare that with other projects?

Can drk implement into their coin? Can you name me a project that has a working pos litewallet or even one that has a staking wallet that works on the iOS platform...Can you name me one other project that has that AND a network leveraged encrypted messaging app within it?
A coin can Try to implement snarks and TRY to get the trust of an already very jaded crypto community. Or they can support one that has proven its worth by its MANY crypto firsts and unique implementations coupled with its useful utility and complete inovation! Bitcoin is the front runner in its field and ShadowCash is the front runner here!

cmon what you are saying is weak and i expected far better from you.

All i see is assholes trying to discount extremely good use of dev time, shame on you seriously. This project is a gold mine for anyone with half a brain to build on it. And when we finally get to that point, which i cant wait for because i'm just sick of these really one sided discussions about its future. From people who just have tons of bias towards it because its a massive threat to their prior investments. Its done 10x the work on itself then any other project out there in the same time on the same budget. It is 10x more useful and efficient to its targeted market, then anything out there already and it has 10x better future then every other project out there besides a very small, select few that have actual decentralized utility or infrastructure built to leverage it. And not some claim to it!

I'm not claiming anything that isn't already done by this project.

Why do you guys say SDC got the best anon solution? Has it been proven? Where can I find some info of that compared to the other private coins?
Thank you, regards.

Nice idea Bro will also do.

I am going to e-mail coindesk and ask them to cover the Shadow project and the recent implementation of the Shadow send feature. The anonymity along with Shadow Chat, and the soon to be decentralized marketplace would make for a good story.  Maybe its a longshot, but they do say they accept news pitches.  It might help if others contact them as well: http://www.coindesk.com/contact-us/

LongAndShort would you be interested in starting a giveaway i'm willing to send 1k over to kick it off, thanks for the fix for the wallet as well worked a charm yeah i'm only asking because i know i can trust you to not rip me off, offer is on the table, if you are interested would prefer 10 sdc per person the more people the better imo.

Proof or gtfo. Sick of you xst tards still sooking. ShadowCash has entire threads with baseless accusations on it, taking top spots in search results. You don't see us in their favored coin threads sooking like a little baby.

Jesus Christ i wish you kids would grow a set and move on!

No one talk to this fool. Clearly has no idea what its talking about.

Ok, well it is the best anon solution on the market, you said it wasn't and I asked you to tell us what is better and why and you have failed to do so. So your contention with Ryno is he should have copy pasted the code like a "good dev".  From my understanding Ryno and the devs are working towards a future goal very methodically.  Your accusation that the code was "maybe only changed so it would not be a 'copy'" really lacks any evidence to back it up.  It does not seem very logical for Ryno to do that.

It sounds like you are mad that they are competing with your coin, and "trashed" your coin.  I don't think anyone is trying to make enemies here, but we did get a lot of attacks from other coin devs coming here and acting rude to us. Some of their criticism was constructive, but much of it was not or it was delivered in a snarky or misleading way.  Some from the SDC community lashed back as humans do.  I would like to reach out to you and welcome you into the community.  It seems we have a common goal of crypto privacy.  I think all of the anon-coins should have higher market caps. But I think a big problem is people get emotionally invested in their coin.  Its healthy to have competition.  But its unhealthy to have a closed mind because of your financial holdings. Also its unhealthy to make unfounded accusations on other coins just to try to push your own investments or agenda.  Maybe you held some Shadow before and have dumped it, so now psychologically you want the price to go down.  Believe me I have been there before.  But its best to squash all that, and just support the coins because of the tech, and freedom, and privacy they allow.  Price matters, but its not what matters most.

I would love to see a SDC social media network built into the wallet but were everyone used alias's instead of there real identity's opens up so many windows of opportunity for growth and a massive marketcap, it would most probably end up being used to organize events such as we saw twitter and facebook used to organize the arab springs but were people could organize these events without the fear of being thrown in some dark dungeon to have there nails pulled out, now that would truly be a revolutionary tech and journalists and whistle blowers would be all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake.

with the new wallet you don't even need a site like silkroad you have encrypted messaging and anonymous transactions in the one client, all you would need is some kind of board or forum that listed peoples SDC chat handles and you could do the business straight from the wallet with no centralized market that could ever be taken down by the feds, it's almost unstoppable and the possibility's are endless, say im selling gold i could post my public chat key on some site that listed peoples chat keys and the product they were selling maybe a reputation system would be used to stop scammers, but people could just get my key tell me how much gold they wanted and basically with one click send me the payment and the shipping info, and it's completely decentralized almost impossible to take down unlike silkroad etc, it's delicious hahaha. and yes perfect for prostitution, political activists in corrupt country's whistle blowers as said endless possibilitys.

Sure, I wasn't suggesting SDC make any kind of special arrangement with these markets.

What I meant is, bluntly, does anybody here buy or sell their dope on dark markets? It's been decades since I've used dope (so long ago, they were still calling it dope  ) so I don't know anything about how it is trafficked now. If so, what premium do you think people would be willing to pay to use SDC with ZK over BTC, which could theoretically be traced and create problems for buyer or seller? And would not a person living in a country where you get executed for that activity be willing to pay an even higher premium? Using the coin like that will provide a consistent and reliable price advantage of SDC/Shadow relative to BTC.

Now a real coup for the coin would be to provide it in a form that is easily usable by whores. Even where that is not a serious crime it is still a major embarrassment to be caught at it and men will and already do pay huge premiums to avoid detection, which can lead to divorce and loss of one's career. You would need an Android light wallet (because whores use phones not computers) and you would also need one-touch conversion to a fiat debit card. Secure communication with at least photo transfer through the wallet would probably also be necessary, and it would have to be as easy to use as SMS, Facebook, Skype, or any of those things that are intended for very common people. The reason why I think prostitution will be the killer app for crypto is that a whore has no suppliers she has to pay, and thus has no need to quickly dump the coin. It will also make prostitution arrests a thing of the past, because at least in the US if you can't prove funds changed hands you can't prove prostitution.

WoW!! just saw the language options in the new wallet never noticed before..you continue to amaze me this is rarely an option in a wallet but vital, well done.

been holding for 4 months dumped nothing only bought more do not intend to dump anytime soon and i will do it slowly when i do proably many years from now.

Please tell us why its not the best anon, and what anon-coin is better and why.  So you are admitting that what Ryno did is "neat", yet its a scam because the price is where its at?  Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?  You also really don't understand markets much.  A market with low liquidity like this is going to have a lot of volatility, but the upside potential is huge.  To say its a scam is a horrible lie.  You think its a scam because the price is low and will never go up according to you?  That is a fallacy in of itself, but also you must have a crystal ball to see the future.  The price is already rebounding, looks like it found the floor.  But the price does not matter anyways, what matters is tech.  The real scam coins are the ones with inflated fake prices.  To call ShadowCash a scam simply because the price is where its at is preposterous.

I do all my SDC trades (and pretty much every other coin) on poloniex

I love the trolls who just call scam with no evidence at all.  Say what you want about ShadowCash.  If you don't like it fine.  But calling a scam with no evidence is pretty pathetic.

If we can design an appropriate marketing campaign I would also be willing to donate.  I know some crypto news sites offer paid articles.  Would be nice to get on Coindesk I think.

I am one of the biggest holders and i do not bash other coins unless it's here and it's very rare i don't go to other threads and stir shit like ever! so   and the dev is unresponsive because he is actually developing unlike the other 90% of devs who just talk shit the more the dev is on the thread the more i get nervous, unless nothing is happening and your not hearing from the dev's that's a different story, but when you see so much achieved in a few short months and the dev is silent but things are still being released and they actually work how there supposed too it's a good sign some individuals here have been active in other threads big deal you think any true investors with real money give a toss, uhmm no now if rhyno was going into other threads bashing other coins they might, but he doesn't so they don't the community's behavior has nothing to do with the morals or ethics of the developers and this is a fact.

It is best for the reputation of SDC to not approach any dark markets, when Evan first released Dark the armory was going to accept it until they discovered it was closed source but Evan never approached them, they heard about it on the grapevine and just decided they would, if you build it they will come, we do not have to lift a finger it will just happen