Topic: [SDC] ShadowCash | Welcome to the UMBRA - page 426. (Read 1289636 times)

Again you're more focused on the short term price rather than the long term goals. The truth is nobody outside of this thread really knows about SDC and this time of the year nobody is paying attention to the market or news for that matter. It's one of the reasons why governments are known for passing laws that are unfavorable to the populace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act

Passed the Senate on December 18, 1913 (54–34)
Reported by the joint conference committee on December 22, 1913; agreed to by the House on December 22, 1913 (298–60) and by the Senate on December 23, 1913 (43–25)
Signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on December 23, 1913

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14120-obama-signs-2013-ndaa-may-still-arrest-detain-citizens-without-charge

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/obama-signs-controversial-defense-bill-new-years-eve

Next month is a fresh start for the project and Shadow is the strongest contender to the anon crown. The public will be more receptive to press and progress. We've got everything lined up ready to go.

Either contribute or please just stop complaining.. it's really getting old.

No, paycoin manipulated their price by burning their cap based off their demand. They basically created their supply based off demands.

Now I like this kind of action in a thread. People complaining about the price implies that people are invested on a personal level. That is good to see since this is the FUCKING HOLY GRAIL. If you are in it for the tech then you know that an anon crypto will get ridiculous volume on the dark markets and all it takes is to be vetted by peers as working anon which hasn't happened for ANYONE yet. Ryno already shat his golden egg, now it is up to his market of peers to determine if it is in fact pure gold. Time will tell.

Also skip don't compare to dark. Their market is highly volatile.

sorry but i dont agree

aslong as you keep on developing tech and have a strong trade group/marker maker (not just pump and dump only, sell when there is excessive demand and buy when there is artificial price push down) it is very healty for price increase, adoption and distribution

look at dark, how many time they failed with anon fork, but they still has a very good market cap and price...what is the reason???what do you think

as long as you keep on delivering tech, it is better you have market maker/pump group/strong investors-traders whatsoever

pumps always leave someone short handed. the artificial support eventually gets pulled for profits.

Sure I appreciate the recognition, but you're still missing the point. This is an open sourced community project, not a financed one. The correct term is called 'donationware' where the team works off of donations instead of salaries. Bitcoin is successful because it has tons of proactive holders, who in most cases have zero direct communication with the developers. Those proactive holders spread the word, build supporting services or get supporting services to support Bitcoin.

Rome wasn't built in a day.. Things take time to mature. We have everything lined up for a successful project. But there are phases the project needs to go through before maturity.. Since July-December (last week) the project has been in a speculation period on how it will achieve anonymity. Now that we have achieved unique anonymity the project has transitioned into a technical review phase. As you can tell by the new faces on the thread it's clear we are in that phase. The next phase is awareness, press and adoption. Each of the former compliments the latter. Complaining doesn't help anyone here.. contribution does.

Start looking at this as a for what it is: a real project which goes through the phases listed above, instead of a short term gain catalyst and you'll see where I'm coming from.

the developers will work on their own time, not yours. they have lives outside of the work they do on this coin.  

Is a pump group unethical?  What if we just decided to all pump the price to 40,000 satoshi on January 7th?  Hey it worked for paycoin they just claim their coin is going to be worth 20 dollar, and bam the market eats it up.

Guys come on were a team here let's become more of a family

i dont remember a promt clarification of ryno to fluffy and smooth who wrote at this thread maybe nonstop for 3-4 days


i keep on telling the same things since the beginning...it is not something i say due to his illness......even if i sell the coin, there will be time when i donate...and it will be a fair value, but i will donate to some people i chose...


you are one of the most communicative, responsive and helpfull person here...i respect your ideas and appriciate the effort you put

with 10-15 core people without having some real investors, the coin will be worthless even if it has the best tech...and investors doesnt like to be blind, they like to get response
you can not finance the coin when there is no price increase or noone to sell....investors and mass adoption is the reason for price increase
investor puts money,creates the demand and this increases the price...that is all they do, dont expect them to take active role beside putting more money...that is how price increases

Obviously distribution happens at market tops (and highs), but on the flip side there is accumulation which happens at lows and market bottoms. Just saying there are two sides to A&D. For every sell, there is an equal buy. I have no idea where SDC is in the cycle, nor do I care. Just wanted to address this.

Ryno has communicated here since the whitepaper release under 'Rynomster' his personal username. His lack of communication is due to the holiday period and his illness.. If you can't understand that then A) You've never been sick and B) You've never experienced a holiday

Skip60 what have you contributed to the project? The loudest one in the room tends to be the one not doing anything.

On the other hand, Ryno and the rest of the team has been slaving to complete ShadowSend since September and have delivered the best anon solution currently available. I think your criticism for developer absence is completely out of line and disrespectful for all the effort that has gone into the project. Constructive criticism is always welcome here but outright disrespect is not. Moving forward we could use people that actually appreciate the efforts our devs and team have put forth.

There was no pre-mine here and no ICO/IPO.. the devs here work because they like to build cool stuff, not deal with adolescent tantrums. The core product IS finished with minor improvements in the works.. We have anonymous transfers on the mainnet. It's the community's job here to spread the word in a respectful manner through various channels i.e. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, article comments etc. AFAIK you have donated nothing to the project and you have contributed nothing to the project. Yet you speak to us as if we are your employees who have taken a leave of absence without notifying you. What gives you the right to be so disrespectful?

Our team has all the right in the world to take time off (given the hours they've put in) and spent it however they choose. Just like most of the developed world is on vacation right now or spending time with their families. Ryno on the other hand has been sick since last week.. Great vacation right? Work 18 hour days for 4 months straight and only take time off when you're sick..

Get a clue! The world doesn't revolve around you. Please do everyone a favor here and exit.

you can not do the distributioan at low prices...

peak prices with very strong buy walls and strong uptreds are the good times for distribution...this is how it is done everywhere....not by pushing the price down...when price goes down, noone holds the falling blade

at sdc what is happening now and it will continue to happen unless there is a big news/miracle etc...

price will keep on going down...at some point, it will find support...from that support it will go up %30-40...then it will be dumped again to new bottom which is lover than the previous one...it will comtinue like that with new lower bottoms and lower spikes....

if some things doesnt change, we will all see what will be the price soon

The only problems I see with such distribution are the following.

-Large holders satisfied with 30-50% ROI. Using this to invest in other coins such as PayCoin who is hot right now.
-Those large holders keeping sell walls and pushing price down
-Not enough newcomers to invest into SDC therefore no buy support
-Those large holders sell off and do not rebuy into SDC.

-Downward spiral occurs unless we have a breakthrough in terms of media, articles and popularity.

I was around during the mining phase of SDC, I don't think anyone party ever obtained a million coins.    The most I had heard of anyone having was a few hundred thousand.  And that was a long time ago.  I doubt most of them held through our peaks into the mid 30's.     I think our distribution is improving by the day at these prices.   Granted I like I high price as much as anyone but this low price is helping to purify the large holders. Who knows if that is good.

"Several hundred thousands of SDC have been dumped." you wrote it as if it is something good, are you serious man....

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noone says, flue stroy is not real, we are talking about lack of communication which we have since the beginning

CoolStoryTeller made something similar to this a few days ago.  I think its pretty good, check it out: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yX2jN618Rnzs4g2ri_utdKdHbny6-xnRcPhOuhLNGB0/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g577a31a2a_086

Don't worry about price guys.  Stop panicking.  I have been watching the market on bittrex, and it really seems like mostly one large holder keeps dumping.  Maybe its a few different people, but I think it might be one guy.  Hes been waiting for larger buy orders and filling them all at once with like 25,000-30,000 SDC sells at once.  Its been happening for days. Seems like they have several hundred thousand SDC or maybe even millions.  Several hundred thousands of SDC have been dumped.

Just hold tight and don't worry though.  People are scooping up these cheap coins.  Do you realize how little liquidity is in this market? I am not sure exactly how much is needed, but possibly all it takes is like a 20 bitcoin market order to send the price to new highs.  All it takes is one whale to come in and look to buy a bunch of SDC.  Just hold tight, this project is going to get the attention it deserves.

Ryno seems like a cool guy, lay off him.  His job is to code, and not PR.  Look how much effort the devs have put into this coin.  That speaks for itself.  I believe the flu story, because the guy was probably working his arse off getting shadow send v2 ready and it takes a toll on your health when you don't sleep.

As for me, I am scooping some cheap coins.

l would like to see some PDF file about zero implementation and shadow coin features..with all those fancy graphics..
In details shadow to sdc , sdc to shadow ...
presentation or pdf ..if it is possible?
thanks..

Thanks mate will do.