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It is best for the reputation of SDC to not approach any dark markets, when Evan first released Dark the armory was going to accept it until they discovered it was closed source but Evan never approached them, they heard about it on the grapevine and just decided they would, if you build it they will come, we do not have to lift a finger it will just happen
The only "problem" of SDC is
a) that people have been burned off too many times by scamcoins / p&d coins that were trying to get into the anon market with false promises
b) the lack of technical knowledge to evaluate whether a solution is real or scam (which led to (a) in the first place)
For me it is clear that SDC is in the running in the anon market along with DRK and Cryptonote coins. Is any solution perfect? No, as most solutions have big tradeoffs, but at least they aren't vaporware / promises / "white papers" etc.
Technically speaking, it'd be interesting for the dev team to run a testnet simulation to check anonymity and bloat / scaling impact, as well as spam attack vectors against the blockchain.
a) that people have been burned off too many times by scamcoins / p&d coins that were trying to get into the anon market with false promises
b) the lack of technical knowledge to evaluate whether a solution is real or scam (which led to (a) in the first place)
For me it is clear that SDC is in the running in the anon market along with DRK and Cryptonote coins. Is any solution perfect? No, as most solutions have big tradeoffs, but at least they aren't vaporware / promises / "white papers" etc.
Technically speaking, it'd be interesting for the dev team to run a testnet simulation to check anonymity and bloat / scaling impact, as well as spam attack vectors against the blockchain.
The coin needs to have some history. Give it a year, let the various businesses that deal in altcoins do actual commerce with it, work out any bugs in the wallets.
Anybody here do any business on the Silk Road equivalents, any interest in the coin on those markets?
We should go to other exchanges.
Not bittrex.
Maybe https://exco.in/exchange/BTC/SDC or https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_sdc.
Otherwise we never see the rise in SDC.
Not bittrex.
Maybe https://exco.in/exchange/BTC/SDC or https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_sdc.
Otherwise we never see the rise in SDC.
If someone sets up a donation address( would prefer someone involved with development ) i will send 1k over i haven't sold any i'm still holding strong for 4 months now only adding to my stash so i guess people do accumulate during lows, the swings don't bother me i know i am in possession of a revolutionary product and literal gold mine, I appreciate all the hard work the Devs have done for this project and my investment it is the most amazing thing i have seen blossom out of the crypto jungle, one day it may just change the world and help me retire very early in life, so hats off to you Team shadow and ryno rest up hope you feeling better soon mate, btw to the community sorry for the outburst the other day at Smooth it was uncalled for should of bit my tounge but i see how hard the team is working and how much tireless hours have gone into this, been here a long time and never seen innovation and development like this and i am a bit defensive of it, so yeah sorry, happy new year people 2015 WILL BE !!the year of the shadow and you better believe it.
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
Just over 1,000 DRK. Here's his donation address: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/XqHt831rFj5tr4PVjqEcJmh6VKvHP62QiM
That was back in the days when I was still a DRK millionaire and money seemed to grow on trees. Should've cashed out above $10 No big deal though since SDC will make me a millionaire again soon.Would donate big amounts to support this coin as well.
Technically speaking, it'd be interesting for the dev team to run a testnet simulation to check anonymity and bloat / scaling impact, as well as spam attack vectors against the blockchain.
There were performance tests mentioned in section 5 of the whitepaper:
5. Performance
5.1. Proof Sizes
The affine coordinates are 64 bytes per ring member per coin value.
We store the public key or keyImage, which is 33 bytes
That leaves us with ~97 bytes / ring member / input
5.2. Benchmarks
The following benchmarks were done on an Intel(R) Core(TM) i73537U CPU @ 2.00GHz
with 8GB of RAM, using the average times out of 300000 iterations:
Algorithm Ring members Average Time Average time / ring member
Signing 200 449ms 2.25ms
Verification 200 440ms 2.2ms
The only "problem" of SDC is
a) that people have been burned off too many times by scamcoins / p&d coins that were trying to get into the anon market with false promises
b) the lack of technical knowledge to evaluate whether a solution is real or scam (which led to (a) in the first place)
For me it is clear that SDC is in the running in the anon market along with DRK and Cryptonote coins. Is any solution perfect? No, as most solutions have big tradeoffs, but at least they aren't vaporware / promises / "white papers" etc.
Technically speaking, it'd be interesting for the dev team to run a testnet simulation to check anonymity and bloat / scaling impact, as well as spam attack vectors against the blockchain.
a) that people have been burned off too many times by scamcoins / p&d coins that were trying to get into the anon market with false promises
b) the lack of technical knowledge to evaluate whether a solution is real or scam (which led to (a) in the first place)
For me it is clear that SDC is in the running in the anon market along with DRK and Cryptonote coins. Is any solution perfect? No, as most solutions have big tradeoffs, but at least they aren't vaporware / promises / "white papers" etc.
Technically speaking, it'd be interesting for the dev team to run a testnet simulation to check anonymity and bloat / scaling impact, as well as spam attack vectors against the blockchain.
We could try a marketing bounty. I don't at all mean to advertise SJXC because this thread is not about SJXC, but look what they are currently doing to get the word out about their coin: https://storjtalk.org/index.php?topic=2202.0
They're giving away free coins to the first 50 people who post ten replies to their bitcointalk threads and ten unique tweets containing their handle and a hashtag.
Maybe this can be organized by the time the marketplace is ready.
They're giving away free coins to the first 50 people who post ten replies to their bitcointalk threads and ten unique tweets containing their handle and a hashtag.
Maybe this can be organized by the time the marketplace is ready.
Hi Skip60,
are you constantly so funny?
I do not know what you've waited so long, feel free to go to a coin where they have daily news.
You have my permission.
I hope that the price will remain low for so long that mice as you go out without profit!
are you constantly so funny?
I do not know what you've waited so long, feel free to go to a coin where they have daily news.
You have my permission.
I hope that the price will remain low for so long that mice as you go out without profit!
Ryno has coded shadowsend v2, and open sourced it. It is now currently in the phase where that code is being peer reviewed and also compared with competitor solutions. This is currently in process by qualified persons.
And yes, Ryno deserves a Christmas break. If you only knew how many hours he put into ZK. He probably slept 8 hours for every 72 hours the last month. Skip60, you contribute nothing to this project except negativity... you selling out would be a plus for shadow from my perspective.
Let the weak hands sell.
And yes, Ryno deserves a Christmas break. If you only knew how many hours he put into ZK. He probably slept 8 hours for every 72 hours the last month. Skip60, you contribute nothing to this project except negativity... you selling out would be a plus for shadow from my perspective.
Let the weak hands sell.
(..)
All right, +1 here.
..so many great posts here recently, waste of space to quote them all. You, my dear Shadow community, have my respects.
Hey guys, bad news kind of. Kristov Atlas e-mailed me back. He said he hasn't looked into ShadowCash much. And he said he accepted a job recently, so he doesn't have any spare time to look into ShadowCash at present unfortunately. He did say however, that it looks cool and he will bookmark the links I sent for the future. Oh well, hopefully we can find some other avenues to get ShadowCash the proper reviews it deserves.
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
Lie.
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
Just over 1,000 DRK. Here's his donation address: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/XqHt831rFj5tr4PVjqEcJmh6VKvHP62QiM
What are some avenues we can spread the word about ShadowCash? Does anyone have twitter? Maybe contact Kristov Atlas and ask him to review the code: https://twitter.com/kristovatlas
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
He has even been on some mainstream television shows like Glenn Beck before to talk about Bitcoin also. He is big into anonymity, and he has a website: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/
Here is his about me section: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/pages/about-the-author
I have heard him talk about other anonymous coins. I am going to try to e-mail him about Shadow and get him talking about it.
Take the reigns. Give him a call. Have him set up a ShadowCash donation address (and announce it) and it sounds like it would help to get us on his radar.I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
He has even been on some mainstream television shows like Glenn Beck before to talk about Bitcoin also. He is big into anonymity, and he has a website: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/
Here is his about me section: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/pages/about-the-author
I have heard him talk about other anonymous coins. I am going to try to e-mail him about Shadow and get him talking about it.
I sent him an e-mail telling him about Shadow and asking him to check it out and give his opinion. I sent him a bunch of links to white paper and CoolStoryTeller's slide presentation. Also I asked him about a donation address. Hopefully he will get back to us soon. I am willing to donate, hopefully others will join in.
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
l would like to see some PDF file about zero implementation and shadow coin features..with all those fancy graphics..
In details shadow to sdc , sdc to shadow ...
presentation or pdf ..if it is possible?
thanks..
In details shadow to sdc , sdc to shadow ...
presentation or pdf ..if it is possible?
thanks..
Hi MedaR,
We're working on an updated slideshow and a video guide for it. We'll update shadowtalk.org as soon as we're done.
Thanks!
What are some avenues we can spread the word about ShadowCash? Does anyone have twitter? Maybe contact Kristov Atlas and ask him to review the code: https://twitter.com/kristovatlas
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
He has even been on some mainstream television shows like Glenn Beck before to talk about Bitcoin also. He is big into anonymity, and he has a website: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/
Here is his about me section: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/pages/about-the-author
I have heard him talk about other anonymous coins. I am going to try to e-mail him about Shadow and get him talking about it.
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
He has even been on some mainstream television shows like Glenn Beck before to talk about Bitcoin also. He is big into anonymity, and he has a website: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/
Here is his about me section: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/pages/about-the-author
I have heard him talk about other anonymous coins. I am going to try to e-mail him about Shadow and get him talking about it.
Take the reigns. Give him a call. Have him set up a ShadowCash donation address (and announce it) and it sounds like it would help to get us on his radar.
What are some avenues we can spread the word about ShadowCash? Does anyone have twitter? Maybe contact Kristov Atlas and ask him to review the code: https://twitter.com/kristovatlas
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
He has even been on some mainstream television shows like Glenn Beck before to talk about Bitcoin also. He is big into anonymity, and he has a website: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/
Here is his about me section: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/pages/about-the-author
I have heard him talk about other anonymous coins. I am going to try to e-mail him about Shadow and get him talking about it.
I know the DarkCoin people donated thousands of DRK to Kristov Atlas to review their tech and he reported it on his youtube show "dark news" on the world crypto network channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
He has even been on some mainstream television shows like Glenn Beck before to talk about Bitcoin also. He is big into anonymity, and he has a website: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/
Here is his about me section: http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com/pages/about-the-author
I have heard him talk about other anonymous coins. I am going to try to e-mail him about Shadow and get him talking about it.
I THINK PEOPLE FORGOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT…
ITS ABOUT FUCKING THE SYSTEM
NOT MAKING A QUICK BUCK
keep ur shitcoins
this is one of the 2 or 3 coins that has REAL tech
ITS ABOUT FUCKING THE SYSTEM
NOT MAKING A QUICK BUCK
keep ur shitcoins
this is one of the 2 or 3 coins that has REAL tech
THERE IS ONLY ONE QUESTION…
DO WE OR DO WE NOT HAVE THE MOST COMPELLING ANON SOLUTION IN CRYPTO TODAY?
THE ANSWER IS YES…
why?
We can operate with full ZK in a BTC marketplace.
We are THE ONLY coin that can perform this magic.
This is Satoshi…
We hook right in to existing API's with full ANON…
WE are not cryptonote. OuR DB is stable. Our wallet is Guified. Our anon secure.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT? We got it covered…
FUCK YEAH! \o/
p.s. this aint about the money, its about screwing the MAN. Dammit thats why BTC was invented…
WE STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS
\o/
DO WE OR DO WE NOT HAVE THE MOST COMPELLING ANON SOLUTION IN CRYPTO TODAY?
THE ANSWER IS YES…
why?
We can operate with full ZK in a BTC marketplace.
We are THE ONLY coin that can perform this magic.
This is Satoshi…
We hook right in to existing API's with full ANON…
WE are not cryptonote. OuR DB is stable. Our wallet is Guified. Our anon secure.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT? We got it covered…
FUCK YEAH! \o/
p.s. this aint about the money, its about screwing the MAN. Dammit thats why BTC was invented…
WE STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS
\o/
What perplexes me is why people are bending over backward to claim that shadowsend doesn't use (something very close to the) the cryptonote design for anonymous coins. It's a great system, the best one around. Your project and developers should be congratulated for choosing it and apparently implementing it effectively.
Instead this turns into a food fight over claims of "No, it's completely new!" (which as someone else pointed out is rather silly even if it weren't incorrect with respect to cryptonote, since every single coin is copied from bitcoin) and who is supposedly advertising in your thread. Silly.
Just give cryptonote their due credit for their part of all this (which is sort of done in the white paper since they are listed as a reference) and get back to the business of building and promoting the coin.
Instead this turns into a food fight over claims of "No, it's completely new!" (which as someone else pointed out is rather silly even if it weren't incorrect with respect to cryptonote, since every single coin is copied from bitcoin) and who is supposedly advertising in your thread. Silly.
Just give cryptonote their due credit for their part of all this (which is sort of done in the white paper since they are listed as a reference) and get back to the business of building and promoting the coin.
The reason for the behavior could be that they were told Shadow would get "ZK" and that would blow everyone's minds and make Shadow stand out and make everything else obsolete. It's tough to give up that thought.
Give it up? Why? All of what you just said is accomplished.
"Your move ill-odin…"
(with russian* accent)
http://www.monitor.co.ug/image/view/-/1909066/highRes/539956/-/maxw/600/-/3guimc/-/news003px.jpg
*georgian to be precise
What I meant was all the talk previously that "snarks can be slotted right in" and "it will blow everything else out of the water" etc as if it was just around the corner and in the works, and now it looks like snarks are coming only if someone somewhere figures out how to do it efficiently and publishes a white paper, and it's not even clear if that's even possible. But if/when that happens, anyone can implement that into their coin.
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