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Well, this subject seems to bother some people on these threads so it definitely should be kept alive. Keep bumping it.

Not that it bother me, but you're saying that their is an official movement for pedophile rights.
I say it's bullshit that such a movement doesn't exist (for rather obvious reasons) and you doesn't provide any proof of it, just because such movement doesn't (and shouldn't exist).

So in the end all that you're saying in this thread is "pedophilia is wrong and shouldn't be allowed".

Well... Ok.... And?
I mean that's plain obvious and absolutely no one will ever say the contrary on this thread because no one believes it's "normal" or "good".

So I think this thread is a bit useless that's all I said...

no one believes it's "normal" or "good". Oh yeah? What about the pedophiles? What about political refuse that´s up to their eyeballs in this shit and retards vote into power?
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Well, this subject seems to bother some people on these threads so it definitely should be kept alive. Keep bumping it.

Not that it bother me, but you're saying that their is an official movement for pedophile rights.
I say it's bullshit that such a movement doesn't exist (for rather obvious reasons) and you doesn't provide any proof of it, just because such movement doesn't (and shouldn't exist).

So in the end all that you're saying in this thread is "pedophilia is wrong and shouldn't be allowed".

Well... Ok.... And?
I mean that's plain obvious and absolutely no one will ever say the contrary on this thread because no one believes it's "normal" or "good".

So I think this thread is a bit useless that's all I said...
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Wednesday, 25 March 2015

The U.K. Government Pedophiles Who Got Away With Spiritual Murder

Written by  Selwyn Duke

We’ve heard much recently about the Muslim-run child sex-trafficking rings that have plagued Britain and that, for most of the last 15 years, had been covered up by the nation’s authorities. But it appears U.K. officials are old hands at protecting pedophiles, as a shocking story about powerful child molesters embedded deep within the British government reveals.

The story dates back to the 1980s and involves politicians, judges, intelligence officers, staff at royal palaces, and figures from private schools, big business, and the Church of England — and more than 100 government files on the pedophile network that have mysteriously gone missing. Writes the Daily Beast’s Nico Hines:

A newspaper editor was handed startling evidence that Britain’s top law enforcement official knew there was a VIP pedophile network in Westminster, at the heart of the British government. What happened next in the summer of 1984 helps to explain how shocking allegations of rape and murder against some of the country’s most powerful men went unchecked for decades.

Less than 24 hours after starting to inquire about the dossier presented to him by a senior Labour Party politician, the editor was confronted in his office by a furious member of parliament who threatened him and demanded the documents. “He was frothing at the mouth and really shouting and spitting in my face,” Don Hale told The Daily Beast. “He was straight at me like a raging lion; he was ready to knock me through the wall.”

Despite the MP’s explosive intervention, Hale refused to hand over the papers which appeared to show that Leon Brittan, Margaret Thatcher’s Home Secretary, was fully aware of a pedophile network that included top politicians.

The editor’s resistance was futile; the following morning, police officers from the counter-terror and intelligence unit known as Special Branch burst into the newspaper office, seized the material and threatened to have Hale arrested if he ever reported what had been found.


The volcanic politician demanding the papers was Liberal Party MP Cyril Smith. Known as “Big Cyril,” he stood over six feet tall and, tipping the scales at more than 400 pounds, is said to have been the heaviest British parliamentarian in history. And he certainly carried weight. Despite allegedly being a predatory child molester with approximately 140 complaints filed against him, he eluded justice and, in 2010, died a free man of natural causes at age 82.

The same could be said of Smith’s pal Jimmy Savile. After the flamboyant and eccentric BBC television host passed away in 2011 at age 84, it emerged that he was not only a prolific pedophile, he sexually abused older people as well — including the elderly — and even descended into necrophilia.

Then there was Leon Brittan — head of the Home Office, the U.K. department responsible for immigration, security, and law and order — who oversaw the pedophilia investigation in what could have been a prime example of the fox guarding the henhouse. It was revealed early last year that he himself was accused of raping a woman and sexually abusing boys. And, you might have guessed it, he also died early last year a free man, at the age of 75. As is so often the case, justice is not a thing of this world.

It’s not that there weren’t heroes in this story. Late Member of Parliament (MP) Barbara Anne Castle was the figure who collated the smoking-gun documents and handed them to Don Hale, then editor of her local newspaper, the Bury Messenger. Then there was MP Geoffrey Dickens. Referencing him, the Washington Post wrote July 7 of last year that the information about “Big Cyril”

was one of many in a dossier prepared 30 years ago by a crusading member of Parliament who warned of a powerful pedophile ring of “big, big names.” At the time, the man told his family the allegations were “explosive,” according to the BBC. It would, he told his son, “blow the lid off” of the pedophile ring and perhaps take down powerful, famous sex abusers who had infiltrated the highest reaches of British life.

Despite the purported power of the allegations, they weren’t aggressively pursued and no arrests or prosecutions followed. “My father [Geoffrey Dickens] thought that the dossier at the time was the most powerful thing that had ever been produced, with the names that were involved and the power that they had,” son Barry told the BBC late last week after it emerged that the document has since gone missing. “It just seems so suspicious that something so important could just go missing.”

Over the weekend, as its disappearance ballooned into a national scandal, the Guardian reported it may be worse than that. An additional 114 documents relevant to allegations involving the ring are also missing.

Brittan was central to this coverup, it appears. In 1983, Dickens gave the soon-to-disappear dossier to the home secretary to jump-start an investigation; Brittan would later claim he passed it on to underlings tasked with pursuing the matter and that he subsequently heard nothing more about it. But Hale contends Brittan actually played puppeteer in the investigation. Writes the Beast’s Hines, “‘Leon Brittan was mentioned in everything you picked up, his fingerprints were over everything, he was the instigator,’ Hale said. ‘He really had his finger on the pulse, he wanted to know everything about it; all the documents were cc’d back to Leon Brittan or it was an instruction directly from Leon Brittan.’”

Not surprisingly, Barbara Anne Castle never trusted Brittan to conduct the pedophilia investigation, Hale relates, as she implied to the journalist that the home secretary was involved. Thus did she attempt to interest major media; they were afraid to investigate, however, which is why she ultimately brought the story to Hale.

It also appears that a striking number of the rich and powerful were members of a British group tantamount to the United States' North American Man-boy Love Association (NAMbLA). Hines writes of this and of how British law itself might have facilitated the coverup:

Great Britain’s notoriously tough libel laws insured that obviously he [Hale] couldn’t repeat the allegations included in the Home Office papers that about 16 MPs and members of the House of Lords, and 30 high-profile figures from the Church of England, private schools, and big business, were members of, and advocates for, the Paedophile Information Exchange. The shadowy group, which operated partly in the open, campaigned for the age of consent to be abolished and incest to be legalized. It also allowed pedophiles to send each other secure mail and to meet in person.

So, partially handcuffed, Hale decided to simply run a story on how these men were under investigation and cite Castle’s concerns; he then contacted some of them and the Home Office for comment. It was the very next day that he received the unwelcome visit from Cyril Smith. And when the portly politician’s efforts at intimidation failed, Hale’s office was subsequently raided by 15 Special Branch officers, two of whom thrust him against a wall as they displayed a search warrant. As a pretext for seizing his papers, they cited a “D-notice,” which can be used when a news story supposedly threatens national security. Hale was told, reports Hines, “We’re not here to negotiate. Hand them [the documents] over or we’ll arrest you now.” And so the story died.

And now, a generation later and with many if not most of the major players dead, it has been reopened. Among the recent revelations, it has been disclosed that police were prohibited from investigating and charging perennial offender Smith, even when indecent images were discovered in his vehicle. As to this, another politician, MP Tim Fortescue, admitted in a 1995 BBC interview that a quid pro quo standard was operative, with elites rescuing their criminal fellows with the knowledge that the favors would later be returned.

Hines reports that the British security services, MI5 and MI6, were complicit as well. This may be no surprise, as longtime director of MI6 Peter Hayman was himself an accused pedophile who was caught with “explicit” material in 1978 — but escaped being charged (and, yes, Hayman is dead, too). And this scandal went all the way to the top, says Hines, with Prime Minister Thatcher ordering “his depravity to be concealed from the public.”

As to this, a former minister in Thatcher’s government, Norman Tebbit, acknowledged last year that there might have been a cover-up and blamed a prevailing “Hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil” attitude in government. Wrote the International Business Times in 2014, “Speaking to Andrew Marr on BBC One's Marr Show, he said: ‘At that time I think most people would have thought that the establishment, the system, was to be protected and if a few things had gone wrong here and there that it was more important to protect the system than to delve too far into it.’”

And so it goes, from pedophilia among the silk-and-satin set decades ago, and beyond, to pedophilia among the Sharia set today — all condoned by immoral authorities.

But there is some good news. The current home secretary, Theresa May, announced earlier this month that an independent, four-person panel headed by an official from outside the British establishment — New Zealand high court judge Justice Lowell Goddard — has been created for the purpose of sifting the pedophilia scandal to the very bottom. It has been given new powers, sufficiently formidable so that Goddard will be able to follow “the evidence wherever it takes her,” wrote May in the Telegraph.

May also said that the “trail will lead into our schools and hospitals, our churches, our youth clubs and many other institutions” and “that what we have seen so far is only the tip of [the] iceberg” of abuse that is “woven, covertly, into the fabric of our society.” And she also vowed, “If perpetrators of child sexual abuse are found, they will be brought to justice.”

[[[don´t forget to check the links in this story]]]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/20520-the-u-k-government-pedophiles-who-got-away-with-spiritual-murder
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Well, this subject seems to bother some people on these threads so it definitely should be kept alive. Keep bumping it.
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Before going too far. I think those who are assessing this idea should consider how the "secrecy" adds up to the excitement. This sexual ideations are misconstrued and on its own is a clear manifestation of a 'miss' when these people are growing up.
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Some of the LGBT activists want to extend the term to include beastiality and pedophilia. "LGBTBP" is the term proposed by them. There are pro-pedophile groups in various Western European countries, and these organizations receive legal and financial support from the LGBT lobbying groups. Vereniging Martijn of the Netherlands and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMbLA) are examples.
Why are these groups even legal?

Some of the LGBT activists want to extend the term to include bestiality and pedophilia. "LGBTBP" is the term proposed by them. There are pro-pedophile groups in various Western European countries, and these organizations receive legal and financial support from the LGBT lobbying groups. Vereniging Martijn of the Netherlands and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMbLA) are examples.

Having a conversation about the rights of adults taking away the rights of children is insane. And yet this will be the next battle. Some taboos are almost universal. Almost I said because in some countries or religion, 7 is an appropriate age...  Embarrassed

In some Islamic countries pedophilia is not illegal and not a taboo. Marry a 10 year old is normal there.. but they are backwards.

yes you are definitely right but something must be changed ...
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Equality and rights is very good but where do you draw the line? As far as I´m concerned it´s at what consenting adults do and doesn´t harm anybody else. Men can marry men and women other women for all I care, it simply isn´t my business. It doesn´t seem to be much of a problem where I am, quite the contrary if anything.

Word.
It's only a matter of mutual consent.
You can get fucked by same sex person, I don't care. You can do 50 persons orgies with candles and satanic music, not my problem.

But children and animals have no personal consent. That's the main point of the innocence of children.

Yeah sure everything you say is great and all.

But again can't find any fucking source for anything you're saying!

I see no trace of a pedophilia movement! Just a random dude claiming some people are asking for legislation on pedophilia.
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Equality and rights is very good but where do you draw the line? As far as I´m concerned it´s at what consenting adults do and doesn´t harm anybody else. Men can marry men and women other women for all I care, it simply isn´t my business. It doesn´t seem to be much of a problem where I am, quite the contrary if anything.

Word.
It's only a matter of mutual consent.
You can get fucked by same sex person, I don't care. You can do 50 persons orgies with candles and satanic music, not my problem.

But children and animals have no personal consent. That's the main point of the innocence of children.
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Equality and rights is very good but where do you draw the line? As far as I´m concerned it´s at what consenting adults do and doesn´t harm anybody else. Men can marry men and women other women for all I care, it simply isn´t my business. It doesn´t seem to be much of a problem where I am, quite the contrary if anything.
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I hope they'll try and have a parade of some sorts. That'll gather them all in one spot, and then they can be "pacified".
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Monday, 28 September 2015

Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/21664-shocking-times-movement-for-pedophile-rights-marches-on

Don´t forget to check out the links in this article to other stories
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You're all spitting on this like it's crazy and all...

Well yeah it's crazy. A bit too much crazy. I didn't see even one source or one link to such a story and never heard of it.

Please when you claim things like that, provide sources or don't say anything at all.

I can't really believe such thing exists. It seems rather obvious that the main difference between pedophilia and zoophilia and homosexuality is consent.
I don't care for the "degenerated" aspect because it's very subjective. I don't think it's a real argument. But what's a real argument is the lack of consent! A child is not able to integrate his consent! Neither is an animal!

Yes it's disgusting but some people could say "you find this disgusting but it's only a matter of taste and culture" but no. It's a matter of consent. Any sexual act towards an animal or a child is an agression, nothing more, and should be heavily punished!

Anyway I don't believe you OP when you're saying that people are currently promoting rights of pedophilia and zoophilia. Not until you give sources of that. I still have some faith in humanity.

PS. I don't want to make a google research for rather obvious reasons...

I agreee with you. It's too easy to come in and say "yeah it's not good everything is degenerated and all...

Never heard of that. It would be crazy, I don't even think that the association of such persons is legal...
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There is no reason for the shock and disbelief here.
First we heard that homosexuality is not a disease but a mental disorder.
Later we had to correct and say that this is normal sexual behavior.
The same is true for pedophilia.
First we heard that pedophilia is not a disease but a mental disorder.
Later we will have to correct and say that this is normal sexual behavior.
All in the name of absolute human rights.
How far will it go?
As long as your own child is raped by a pedophile?
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That was FAST: Yesterday it was gay marriage; Now look who wants “equal rights”

Written by Ashley Edwardson on June 27, 2015

I am not adding much commentary to this, because I really think little is necessary. I am busy trying to find a hand hold on our slippery slope, because I fear my nation is falling into an abyss.

Excerpted from the Northern Colorado Gazette:

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits.

“Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”

In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”

The White House praised the bill saying, “At root, this isn’t just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another – whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.”

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, “Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”

He went on to say, “True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent.”

When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, “If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles’ sexual interests prefer children and, “There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.”

In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.”
Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, “Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children.”

Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of “basic sexual rights” that includes “the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud.” Another right is to, “be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior” and “the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire.” The organization also says that no one should be “disadvantaged because of age.”


[Note: the website also says in its mission statement: The Institute is dedicated to the belief that sexual rights are basic human rights and it is appropriate to help students understand that many people have been hurt, falsely imprisoned, harassed and persecuted because of laws and misinformation about the role and place of sexuality and its many expressions by individuals in our society.

Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.

Now here’s the scary part: This article from the Greeley Gazette was originally published in 2011. But now, there’s actually a constitutional argument that can be made in its favor. As we said yesterday, the ruling on same sex marriage has many unintended consequences.

Please pray for our nation.

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/06/that-was-fast-yesterday-it-was-gay-marriage-now-look-who-wants-equal-rights/
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Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime

By MARGO KAPLANOCT. 5, 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pedophilia-a-disorder-not-a-crime.html?_r=0

Typical. Watering down the issue., business as usual in garbage media.

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Pedophiles can not have any rights..only to be in jail..this is disease. But ok they sholud be separated from children
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zoophilia, pedophilia..all worse and worse one of other...now i saw on tv something about legalisation of raping in private property: if woman enters freely in your property-home,flat,garden..than is not ilegal to rape her and that act would not be consider as raping, because if she entered freely than she accepted that sex can happen..I don't understand why all those insane people are free on streets and why this insane ideas are considered in town hall, on meetings..world goes mad

That's crazy, you're completely making crappy statements. It's not because you saw it on the internet or on tv that it's true you know?

Don't believe things just because they confort you in the idea that our world is degenerated. Such a law doesn't exist!
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You're all spitting on this like it's crazy and all...

Well yeah it's crazy. A bit too much crazy. I didn't see even one source or one link to such a story and never heard of it.

Please when you claim things like that, provide sources or don't say anything at all.

I can't really believe such thing exists. It seems rather obvious that the main difference between pedophilia and zoophilia and homosexuality is consent.
I don't care for the "degenerated" aspect because it's very subjective. I don't think it's a real argument. But what's a real argument is the lack of consent! A child is not able to integrate his consent! Neither is an animal!

Yes it's disgusting but some people could say "you find this disgusting but it's only a matter of taste and culture" but no. It's a matter of consent. Any sexual act towards an animal or a child is an agression, nothing more, and should be heavily punished!

Anyway I don't believe you OP when you're saying that people are currently promoting rights of pedophilia and zoophilia. Not until you give sources of that. I still have some faith in humanity.

PS. I don't want to make a google research for rather obvious reasons...
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zoophilia, pedophilia..all worse and worse one of other...now i saw on tv something about legalisation of raping in private property: if woman enters freely in your property-home,flat,garden..than is not ilegal to rape her and that act would not be consider as raping, because if she entered freely than she accepted that sex can happen..I don't understand why all those insane people are free on streets and why this insane ideas are considered in town hall, on meetings..world goes mad

Well, I´m sure that morons voting psychopaths into office for years, even decades has something to do with these unfortunate developments. The ruling establishment both sides of the Atlantic is one big shitpile of deviants and weirdos after all.
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zoophilia, pedophilia..all worse and worse one of other...now i saw on tv something about legalisation of raping in private property: if woman enters freely in your property-home,flat,garden..than is not ilegal to rape her and that act would not be consider as raping, because if she entered freely than she accepted that sex can happen..I don't understand why all those insane people are free on streets and why this insane ideas are considered in town hall, on meetings..world goes mad
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