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Sure seems like mentally unstable folks can do whatever they want and even have no consequences for their actions.
At the point when they are mentally ill, nothing bothers them anymore because they are not in their right senses. But the truth is that I don't think they should gamble because if their gambling habits doesn't affects them it might affect someone closer to them, or those that depend on them (like their children).

1. Yes, there are mentally unstable people who look like just the normal ones so they can enter gambling floors and play.
Yeah, some mental unstable people seems normal and some times you won't know until you go closer to them or ask them a few questions. However, if the owners of the casino know that there's an abnormal gambler in his casino shop, he should walk the person out so that he won't cause any harm to other gamblers.
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Are there even instances where mentally unstable people are out and just gambling around? I am curious do they have the capacity to have that kind of interest in terms of wanting to entertain themselves?

What category of unstable people are We even Talking about?

There still should be accountability in terms of what they do in my opinion, and that could be with their guardian or something.

1. Yes, there are mentally unstable people who look like just the normal ones so they can enter gambling floors and play.
2. OP didn't mention anything about it.

Yes, I agree with your final statement but what if he is old enough that he could still go some places although the person still has a disability that is not obvious?
I have seen people walk around who I thought were just normal like me and then one day you will receive news from your neighbor that they are crazy or something. If they can do things without even a guardian because the family thinks they can, that becomes a problem for society. Those who are less fortunate cannot afford medicine and a guardian for their family member who is mentally unstable to be taken care of so they just let them be like normal people even though they are not.
We don't know when that mental disability will suddenly come out and whatever it is, it might create chaos in gambling businesses or the streets.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Gambling addiction can be considered to be a mental disorder then for someone who isn't mentally stable to engage in it can only cause more harm than good. Gambling involves some sort of stability to start with, someone who isn't mentally coordinated can't just go into it, how can a mentally unstable gambler make logical decisions if he isn't in the right State of mind? Mental disorders goes beyond wearing dirty clothes or having unkept hairs some people dress properly but are not mentally okay
Where stress free people are often confused when it comes to gambling decisions, when a person who is ill or mentally unstable becomes addicted to gambling, it will be difficult for them to make the right decisions. They will engage in gambling but the outcome of gambling is unlikely to be as expected by them. Although there is luck in gambling, but if you do not take proper decisions, the luck will go far away. One thing I have been able to observe very well in betting is that if I am mentally happy and can gamble without any stress then my gambling results are comparatively better but when I am not mentally ready or going through any stress then the result will not be much expected.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Gambling addiction can be considered to be a mental disorder then for someone who isn't mentally stable to engage in it can only cause more harm than good. Gambling involves some sort of stability to start with, someone who isn't mentally coordinated can't just go into it, how can a mentally unstable gambler make logical decisions if he isn't in the right State of mind? Mental disorders goes beyond wearing dirty clothes or having unkept hairs some people dress properly but are not mentally okay
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Are there even instances where mentally unstable people are out and just gambling around? I am curious do they have the capacity to have that kind of interest in terms of wanting to entertain themselves?

What category of unstable people are We even Talking about?

There still should be accountability in terms of what they do in my opinion, and that could be with their guardian or something.
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
Those who are unstable when it comes to gambling may be the gambling company considered them negatively, but not always. There are some gamblers who appear to be physically abnormal but still manage to gamble within the rules of gambling. An addicted gambler is not a threat to the gambling companies but they are profitable for that company. But gambling platforms definitely not help those who do not follow any rules in gambling and create problem. But not only in the gambling platforms but in any platform if a person can be trustworthy as well as polite then he will be considered positively by all. It is not possible to identify about a person by his  appearance. But the behavior of those who are mentally unstable is not always positive. The authorities have a different view of those gamblers.
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Sure seems like mentally unstable folks can do whatever they want and even have no consequences for their actions. At least according to one political party in the US. I am glad that things are starting to trend more towards normalcy, but we’re still a long ways from putting people in loony bins like the old days.

To me, you are mixining some stuff up when talking about people who (unfortunately)  cannot enjoy the emotional stability many take for granted. This is a discussion which is entirely about whether mentally unstable people is supposed to be chartered in casinos and resort or be escorted away as they care not in a state which allows them to know right from wrong.
A little bit of derailment, though. What is your opinion of mentally unstable people and what is the government supposed to do with them if they are found to be suffering from illnesses like depression or anxiety? Simply locking them up?
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Sure seems like mentally unstable folks can do whatever they want and even have no consequences for their actions. At least according to one political party in the US. I am glad that things are starting to trend more towards normalcy, but we’re still a long ways from putting people in loony bins like the old days.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?


There's something most people don't know, gambling addiction is a mental disorder, for those who can actually relate, ask yourself why can't I stop?? Even after telling yourself you won't but you always find your self going back and it feels like you have no control over it..
If someone has a mental disorder and probably starts gambling, the mental issues of that person will only be escalated, how do you think he or she would react after losing a bet when they are not in control of their emotions, it would be highly disastrous
These were exactly my thoughts after reading the OP. People who are mentally okay often find it difficult regulating their gambling activities which most times leads to a more serious issue for them. For someone who is already mentally challenged, there are tendencies that he might end up as an impulsive gambler generating money to the casinos all in the name of gambling.

In my opinion, I think mentally challenged people should not be allowed to gamble because they do not know what they are doing and they do not have that capacity to make informed decisions. Same way underaged people are not allowed to gamble, mentally unstable people should not be allowed too.
But honestly, whether those people who do have that disorder and to those normal ones, on the time that they would really be playing up gambling then most likely it would really be still ending up on the same
on which it do become that impulsive or the time that you dont know on what you are doing and becoming like someone who dont really have that much control when it comes to finances.
It would really be that common sense that in overall thinking and decision making then those people who do have that mind problems will really be not making such good condition on which it would really be that understandable. The problem here is that on the moment that they will really be trying out to visit physical places then it would really be that hard to determine on which one.

Any health conditions shouldnt really be allowed on dealing up with something on which it isnt really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other stuffs as well. It would really be that
truly understandable about certain conditions shouldnt really be that tolerated or something that do speak about allowing into those activities on which it does really require
that proper moderation and control which does simply needs that proper thinking and assessing on situations.
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If someone is mentally unstable, then there must be some kind of lunatic display from their way of behavior, now the question is, how could such a person know how to gamble, get money to gamble and also gamble in a responsible manner, we cannot pretend that we are not aware of the fire set on the mountain when the disaster approaches, we will only constitute to their problem by allowing them to gamble, instead, we can engage them on other sports and gaming activities other than gambling.

Yes that makes sense, and the question is yes as you said that how is it possible for someone who has a mental disorder to be involved in gambling regardless of whether they are gambling at an online or physical casino, and it is also of course less likely for those who have a mental disorder to can calculate their every action and decision, and it should be reasonable to say that they would not know how to gamble like the average gambler does.

That all makes sense, friend, and let alone gambling responsibly, I'm sure they won't even know how to gamble, so it's best to eliminate all ties to gambling, because the first step you should take is to help cure them if that's possible, but Otherwise, licensing involvement in gambling for people who have mental disorders is unnecessary or even pointless to do.
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If someone is mentally unstable, then there must be some kind of lunatic display from their way of behavior, now the question is, how could such a person know how to gamble, get money to gamble and also gamble in a responsible manner, we cannot pretend that we are not aware of the fire set on the mountain when the disaster approaches, we will only constitute to their problem by allowing them to gamble, instead, we can engage them on other sports and gaming activities other than gambling.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?


There's something most people don't know, gambling addiction is a mental disorder, for those who can actually relate, ask yourself why can't I stop?? Even after telling yourself you won't but you always find your self going back and it feels like you have no control over it..
If someone has a mental disorder and probably starts gambling, the mental issues of that person will only be escalated, how do you think he or she would react after losing a bet when they are not in control of their emotions, it would be highly disastrous
These were exactly my thoughts after reading the OP. People who are mentally okay often find it difficult regulating their gambling activities which most times leads to a more serious issue for them. For someone who is already mentally challenged, there are tendencies that he might end up as an impulsive gambler generating money to the casinos all in the name of gambling.

In my opinion, I think mentally challenged people should not be allowed to gamble because they do not know what they are doing and they do not have that capacity to make informed decisions. Same way underaged people are not allowed to gamble, mentally unstable people should not be allowed too.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Frankly it is a slippery slope to try and judge whether someone is mentally unstable, or what is behind their actions. You start entering the area of discriminating against someone for a disability or how they look. While most shops are free to reject doing business with anyone they like, you'll find that casinos or bookmaker shops are some of the last places you'll see someone being prevented from entering to bet. If someone has gotten very angry or even aggressive then they should be removed, but that is probably the only reason they would stop someone betting there. You can find some rather rich people who don't necessarily wear the nicest clothes or even look after themselves particularly well, but they should not be rejected on appearances only.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?


There's something most people don't know, gambling addiction is a mental disorder, for those who can actually relate, ask yourself why can't I stop?? Even after telling yourself you won't but you always find your self going back and it feels like you have no control over it..
If someone has a mental disorder and probably starts gambling, the mental issues of that person will only be escalated, how do you think he or she would react after losing a bet when they are not in control of their emotions, it would be highly disastrous
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Some mental illness people do organize them self and to avoid any distraction because they know about their situation and they can do anything it they start acting so they make sure they keep calm and do what ever they want to achieve their desires, well I guess the mental illness is not too much but it is okey for them to handle it
If they knows that they have mental illness and don't do something that can harm many people, that will be good for them. But we knows that people with mental illness can do something that we never realizes and that can harm people around them because what they do will not be predicted for other people. It's better that those people doesn't playing gambling to avoids something bad that can harm many people in that place, including themselves because when they do something bad, they will not realizes. Other people can't helps them because they are afraid that they can becomes the victims and gets injured. It's a duty for their family to keeps an eye of their family members who have mental illness not to around many people so there will be no people harm because of them.
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Some mental illness people do organize them self and to avoid any distraction because they know about their situation and they can do anything it they start acting so they make sure they keep calm and do what ever they want to achieve their desires, well I guess the mental illness is not too much but it is okey for them to handle it

By the name they are mentally unstable they that means they are not organize. With having those illness they can't have proper focus since they are bothered with their issues and might they can cause a lot of troubles to the people who's playing in same venue if they are playing on physical casino or they disturb the operation of the casino which is legitimately running and they just want to troll them because they want to take revenge on what they experience. They are mentally unstable and that is risky person to deal with.

That's why if you know someone close to you having this issues then give him an advice or tell it to his family members that these person is not doing well and he might experience a lot of trouble if he can't get proper guidance or immediate help by professionals who can help on his issues facing on.
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What "mentally unstable" may look like to you could be quite different. People should realize that we are not talking about people who are half naked running down the street when we say this, there are a lot of people who are mentally unstable but do not show it right away.

We could be talking about someone who is a close friend of yours, or some person working at your company. I mean do you really think that kids who shoot up schools show their guns and threaten people beforehand? They do not do that at all, we are usually unaware who is mentally unstable. So we can't really see who they are, and what they are going through mentally and since we can't that means we would not be able to actually show them anything at all, it would be quite near impossible stop them.
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Some mental illness people do organize them self and to avoid any distraction because they know about their situation and they can do anything it they start acting so they make sure they keep calm and do what ever they want to achieve their desires, well I guess the mental illness is not too much but it is okey for them to handle it
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Gambling in a hall with a mentally unstable person is quite uncomfortable for my liking, because it could be an act of selfishness for the gambling attendant to still give service to a mentally unstable person when they know that the person isn't in the right state of mind to make good selections. From the description from the op, it's obvious the person was mentally illed, and him been able to compose emself doesn't necessary mean that he is stable in gambling selection. Be might pretend to be fine because he/she knows that he'll be kicked out if he causes any trouble. Such person should be deprived the right of playing gamble, since they can just end up being a n irresponsible gambler.
The issues is the state of mind, what’s the person thought at that moment when placing a bet and the reaction taken after seeing the end result either good or bad. Mentally unstable person should avoid public areas like a casino center for example for customers safety, the casino in question might lose customers if they continually provide service to a mental ill person because everyone is watching around and I will not like being in same space with such person likewise others also. At that state, the least service anyone can render is treatment not gamble because it sound as selfishness from my view.
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Certainly not, but I doubt that any country prohibits certain people from gambling or that any casino requires a medical certificate from all its customers.

The main characteristic that differentiates a pathological gambler (who has a mental problem or addiction) from a responsible gambler is the cognitive distortion he has about the game. Calm down, I'll explain better....

Cognitive distortion is defined as an illusion of control over the game, that is, of controlling the results (which we know are random). This illusion of control can be manifested either when the person believes that they have already "mastered" the moves or when they believe that they know how to interpret certain "environmental signals" that are not actually influencing anything in the game.
In addition to this characteristic, pathological gamblers also display traits of impulsivity that probably emerged in childhood, and use gambling as a way of seeking a form of psychological pleasure.
The responsible player knows the limits and risks of the game, is always playing according to the odds and knows when to stop... something that a person with mental problems would be unlikely to achieve.

Players who have this type of problem and cannot control their excessive gambling behavior should seek psychiatric treatment and stay away from gambling.
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