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There should be a much stricter policy regarding customer welfare especially in these types of business models where customers who sign up are at risk of being addicted. Many may disagree with this but soon as you get into the habit of gambling it's quite hard to quit it without outside intervention. And in situations like this it is very helpful that online gambling sites set up parameters that track their customer's activity and provide them with health assistance or redirect them to a healthcare professional soon as they see patterns of addiction. It shouldn't be that bothersome to project empathy especially for someone who keeps your business running.
What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.
Phishing may of course be on the gambler's fault but the fact remains that they should inform people about this as soon as news of it come out. As for the other health detriments, they could do something about it like automatically locking the customer's account on certain parts of the day and redirecting them to a health professional which could be done within their system if my memory serves me correctly. Yes it's quite the trouble but in exchange for a much healthier gambling environment? Yes please.
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.

Only responsible gamblers should gamble because a responsible gambler will not blame a casino when he losses it's part of the game, a responsible gambler knows he should gamble what he can afford to lose, the majority of gambling sites always warn their players, they do not lack warning their players if he failed to heed that, whatever the consequences it should be his responsibility.

Losing funds because of phishing sites isn't the responsibility of a gambling casino anymore. We're always advised to be mindful of our actions and be careful on clicking suspicious sites. Gambling sites don't have any control over that. It could harm careless players and aren't mindful of their actions. We must know how to get rid of phishing sites these days. We should think before we click.
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.

Only responsible gamblers should gamble because a responsible gambler will not blame a casino when he losses it's part of the game, a responsible gambler knows he should gamble what he can afford to lose, the majority of gambling sites always warn their players, they do not lack warning their players if he failed to heed that, whatever the consequences it should be his responsibility.
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Most online gambling companies claim that they are ethical providers who are committed to corporate social responsibility (CSR) practices.

They propose,  that their CSR are targeted at preventing or minimizing the harm associated with their activities. However,  we are aware that those who are severely addicted to gambling have shown several mental and physical health, social relationships and academic and work performance issues.

Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?



As you said, they "claim" to be ethical and adhere to socially responsible play. The alternative is they ignore any pleas to help out people with gambling addiction, make lots of money in the short term but get the wrath of politicians who then are forced to create more punitive laws against them. This way they are effectively soft lobbying to be left alone, trying to walk a fine line where they can continue to target vulnerable people in different ways but show their "good" credentials when asked what they are doing to help the situation. It's basically goodwill shopping. Luckily in my country the gambling regulator is relatively effective and forces many companies to offer an opt-out service which allows people to self ban themselves for certain lengths of time if they feel like they've lost control.
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.
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    I really don't know if there's still a responsible of the company Gambling for the Gambler if what happened on them inside the gambling site. I think there's is no cause they already know once they entered Gambling they know their limitless . We all know that gambling site is a business that's people will be interested an more likely to stay.
The casino will not be responsible for what happens to the gamblers because they have their own decision to play gambling and how much money they will use to gamble. But the casino was already telling them to be careful to gamble, but that does not stop gamblers from gambling. The casino can suggest the gambler but the gambler will decide by themselves and nothing can stop the gamblers from playing gambling except themselves.
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    I really don't know if there's still a responsible of the company Gambling for the Gambler if what happened on them inside the gambling site. I think there's is no cause they already know once they entered Gambling they know their limitless . We all know that gambling site is a business that's people will be interested an more likely to stay.
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you,
They will only take care of you in a manner that the service they'll offer will make you feel comfortable and wanting to bet some more because that's how their businesses are running.

if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management
Or better don't gamble at all.

I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
They monitor in so many ways but it's only if it's related to seeing how their players are enjoying.
Gambling platforms has no business in monitoring or knowing the later end of their customers and there is no where in the gambling policies of a country or firm that will hold gambling companies for being responsible for unethical behaviours of there gamblers/customers. Everyone has the liberty to do whatever they want or like without restrictions once it does not go contrary to the law. Gambling is lawful and anyone that choose to use it to create crime would be definitely hold responsible for their actions.
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you,
They will only take care of you in a manner that the service they'll offer will make you feel comfortable and wanting to bet some more because that's how their businesses are running.

if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management
Or better don't gamble at all.

I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
They monitor in so many ways but it's only if it's related to seeing how their players are enjoying.
legendary
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I did not want to mention that before because it will make people not to have freedom, government should not be too strict like that, but just want to clear rodskee that he is not totally right, we should know that nobody cares, if the government want to care that way, people will say the government are making people not to have freedom, but we should know that it is we ourselves that should care for ourselves, that is why only 18+ are the people that are allowed to gamble by law, children can not gamble, we should fight all means that can let us be an addict because nobody cares, neither the government, the betting companies do not care but like people to gamble more.
And that's why the current system of taking care of addicts is at an impasse, since the government nor the addicts themselves are actually able to do anything, since well, because of personal freedom. Ngl, the government DOES care (well, at least some of them I suppose), it's just that their care is way too old, ineffective, and useless, that it seems like they actually don't give a single damn about the current state of gambling addiction. It's a sad state yes, but it has been like that for a long time imo.
I have to say the main reason is that the addiction is not the same as other addictions and that is the biggest reason. For example cigarette addiction kills you with lung cancer, drinking kills you with liver cancer or any other liver problems, drugs kill you because of overdose, basically there has been a ton of addictions that literally kills you.

What does gambling addiction do? It makes you lose money, it could be a small amount, or it could be everything you have ever owned, even make you do crimes to gamble some more but in the end it just takes your money and everything else is what you do for money, you may do the same things for other reasons since people do want money and get greedy and commit crimes without gambling as well.

This vaaaast huuuuuge difference between addictions makes gambling addiction look very tiny and very unimportant compared to all other addictions.
legendary
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
Yes, basically gambling itself is a risky game so when they start playing then they are responsible for themselves and no one else. But indeed, the company can give warnings in many ways too, if a player enters using a ticket, the company can still remind him through the ticket about the gambling itself so that gamblers can make choices from the start. Because the main thing is to remain disciplined because once we make carelessness in betting, then it will certainly be detrimental and create danger because of our own choices or actions, all return to their respective self-awareness.
Some casinos offering a lock feature so the user can lock their account for a certain time period so they can avoid the gambling addiction and also they give warnings if we play too long and especially when we click the bet amount as a maximum of our balance because it can be a life savior on many occasions when people click the max instead of increase button.

But that is not really the solution to any players whoa are addicted. That might work in the physical world if there was only one casino in your city, but in the online gambling world we all know how easy it is to just sign up with another online casino and play there. I know that is not the responsibility of any casino to full take care of players, but that's just how it is.
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
Yes, basically gambling itself is a risky game so when they start playing then they are responsible for themselves and no one else. But indeed, the company can give warnings in many ways too, if a player enters using a ticket, the company can still remind him through the ticket about the gambling itself so that gamblers can make choices from the start. Because the main thing is to remain disciplined because once we make carelessness in betting, then it will certainly be detrimental and create danger because of our own choices or actions, all return to their respective self-awareness.
Some casinos offering a lock feature so the user can lock their account for a certain time period so they can avoid the gambling addiction and also they give warnings if we play too long and especially when we click the bet amount as a maximum of our balance because it can be a life savior on many occasions when people click the max instead of increase button.
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
Yes, basically gambling itself is a risky game so when they start playing then they are responsible for themselves and no one else. But indeed, the company can give warnings in many ways too, if a player enters using a ticket, the company can still remind him through the ticket about the gambling itself so that gamblers can make choices from the start. Because the main thing is to remain disciplined because once we make carelessness in betting, then it will certainly be detrimental and create danger because of our own choices or actions, all return to their respective self-awareness.
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There is no need to put responsibility in the company in relation to harmful activities. at first, they did not force you to play the game and they didn't do anything to persuade you, if you get addicted to gambling, you lose your meals, taking a bath and you got sick because you only focused on gambling then that is not their fault because you are the one who chose to be like that.
I get your point the companies shouldn't be held responsible for gamblers carelessness but at some point this companies can also help reduce the harm. It will be ethical if this gambling companies require statement of account from gamblers before registration so the help them manage their deposits and regulate the amount the will stake for every bet And also set limits to which the can play on daily, weekly and monthly basis.
Maybe the gambling companies can warn the gamblers not to use too big money for gambling, although they do not like to say that but at least, that gambling companies help the gamblers to know the risk.
If a gambler does not know that and still uses more money to gamble, that will be a gambler's mistake because he can not manage his money.
That will not be the company's mistake because they already warned the gamblers but did not follow the suggestion.
If that so, people can not blame the gambling companies.
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Yes. Casinos should definitely be responsible when it comes to addiction cases - and they should offer things like voluntary self exclusion, self help resources, etc. to the best of their ability in order to make sure that problem gamblers have the least chance of becoming addicted.

But at the end of the day, is it really fair to expect them to do any more?

They're running a for profit business, not a charity. And gamblers can always come back with alts even with self-exclusion, so it's not failsafe by any means.
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Business is business so don't expect them to take care of you, if anyone wants to be safe while gambling then its their responsibility to gamble safe with time limitations and good financial management and I don't know how can we expect the gambling sites to monitor all the individuals and their betting habits which is literally not possible via monitor.
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as the function of the CSR as they are not created to take responsibility for this because it was the fault of the gambler, not the site itself.

Even in gambling addiction, companies are still out from this and we can neither claim to help us.

If the gambler file a complaint in court I don't think it will prosper, it's going to be a long and expensive case, and casinos can hire the best lawyers because they are well funded and they have a lot of connections when it comes to gambling we must see to it that we become obsessive in gambling we can do this by limiting our time and focusing on other things and strengthening our relationship with our family.
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Have these companies taken any steps to minimize the harm related to online gambling?  Is their CSR functional? Not all bet sites encourage responsible gambling because they rely on revenue from the losses of  gambling addicts. My question is, should online gambling companies be responsible for the harm related to their activities because of their current failures in the implementation and control of CSR policies?
I have seen that many gambling houses tried self-locking facility kind of things to make sure their core business will not impact their customers in more depth but people do find their own way to breach such things which eventually ending up blaming the gambling houses.

Whatever CSK practices being incorporated by gambling houses, when gamblers are not ready to feel their responsibilities then we cannot expect any changes in gambler's approach toward gambling. Changes should begin from the gamblers which may grow up to effective levels when houses also join with gamblers to co-operate.
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I did not want to mention that before because it will make people not to have freedom, government should not be too strict like that, but just want to clear rodskee that he is not totally right, we should know that nobody cares, if the government want to care that way, people will say the government are making people not to have freedom, but we should know that it is we ourselves that should care for ourselves, that is why only 18+ are the people that are allowed to gamble by law, children can not gamble, we should fight all means that can let us be an addict because nobody cares, neither the government, the betting companies do not care but like people to gamble more.
And that's why the current system of taking care of addicts is at an impasse, since the government nor the addicts themselves are actually able to do anything, since well, because of personal freedom. Ngl, the government DOES care (well, at least some of them I suppose), it's just that their care is way too old, ineffective, and useless, that it seems like they actually don't give a single damn about the current state of gambling addiction. It's a sad state yes, but it has been like that for a long time imo.
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There is no need to put responsibility in the company in relation to harmful activities. at first, they did not force you to play the game and they didn't do anything to persuade you, if you get addicted to gambling, you lose your meals, taking a bath and you got sick because you only focused on gambling then that is not their fault because you are the one who chose to be like that.
I get your point the companies shouldn't be held responsible for gamblers carelessness but at some point this companies can also help reduce the harm. It will be ethical if this gambling companies require statement of account from gamblers before registration so the help them manage their deposits and regulate the amount the will stake for every bet And also set limits to which the can play on daily, weekly and monthly basis.
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