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Topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? - page 6. (Read 9810 times)

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November 30, 2023, 05:20:24 AM
Also “symmetrick” should be “cheaptrick”
I think your brain has completely dried out.
legendary
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November 29, 2023, 07:00:22 PM
I like this logic.
pirateat40 was one of the first and biggest scammers with bitcoin at the time.
So If he comes back and changes his username now, does this absolve him of his crimes?
Are we supposed to form a gang with whatever criminal and scammer comes here with a changed name and never snitch on their wrongdoings?
inb4 bitcointalk becomes the biggest gang in the world.

I think you're confusing a username with witness protection programs @Bitcoin SV
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November 29, 2023, 09:06:15 AM
This thread serves as discussion on his recent action on why he is not a DT anymore and other aftermath matters
Oh, really?
Maybe then rename the topic from "Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?" to "Discussion of former DT member Ratimov"?
To at least somehow correspond to common sense?

Ratimov was in DT. Symmetrick was never in DT. At the time he was in DT, he was not Symmetrick. How can you discuss something that didn't happen?

Topic should be renamed to "Discussion of former DT member Ratimov"? Otherwise it's all bullshit that not corresponding to common sense! And all blamers here are trust-abusers

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shut up cunt


THEYMOS, WHERE IS A DECENTRALIZATION OF DT? Why these DT trolls acts centrally?
paid2 are you trust abuser? If you dont like BSV coin - why didn't you redtagged me earlier? Why did you tagged me after this message? Are you a part of centralized DT pocket army of Lauda?
legendary
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November 29, 2023, 08:33:13 AM
From an outsider, it looks more like this thread is an ongoing witch hunt more than a legitimate removal from this DT system...I respect Gazeta and his contributions to the forum - but this feels more like Ratimov/Symmetrick is purposefully under the microscope even after Ratimov/Symmetrick left DT1. He's out, mission accomplished? Just lock the thread unless they get back in DT1/Somehow re-include themselves?...and if so, then reopen the thread? Or is the new goal to give them negative trust with the microscope, hence thread staying open?

It's better to keep the thread open collecting all the drama in one place rather than having all sorts of digarans create a bunch of new ones if this is locked. It's not like Symmetrick would magically cease stomping his feet and lashing out upon locking the thread.
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November 29, 2023, 08:05:26 AM
Leave digaran alone. Digaran did nothing wrong :,(

Also “symmetrick” should be “cheaptrick”
sr. member
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November 29, 2023, 07:51:44 AM
SNIP

Look, digaran. I believe you do not deserve that many negative tags. But once someone leaves you a tag for a controversial reason, some others do not hesitate to leave another tag for the same reason because they believe the first person who left the tag was accurate and they just followed the previous user. For example, let's say I am a DT member, and I left you a tag saying Digaran is a plagiarist. Even if the proof is insufficient, another DT member will be influenced to leave you a tag. It does not happen all the time. But the 2nd tag has some influence, of course. You are still in the campaign because you are not a shit poster like many others who spam gambling boards and never explore the other side of the forum. So, they do not risk their reputation, but they are making money by writing shit posts. You need to cool down and refrain from doing stupid things you did in the past. Return to the reputation board after a year and ask DT members to review the feedback without calling them out. More importantly, stop responding to everyone.
legendary
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November 29, 2023, 04:41:53 AM
I might even surpass your ratings before the end of my miserable forum life.

Hey, that was sad to read. While you are eccentric, and troll often, just know that there are onlookers who enjoy the better side of your posts, and hope that your forum life takes a turn for the better. I've always rooted for the underdog and I'm rooting for you! I hope that the forum isn't miserable for you one day. It shouldn't be for anyone that isn't a scammer or causing severe harm to anyone in the community.  I don't think you're either of those AFAIK.

On-topic - I've never interacted with Symmetrick/Ratimov, but I respect the contributions he made to forum in terms of the amount of knowledge he's contributed on the topic of Cyber security/Privacy (this is somewhat ironic considering I read he got dox'd, in a pretty slack fashion too)

From an outsider, it looks more like this thread is an ongoing witch hunt more than a legitimate removal from this DT system...I respect Gazeta and his contributions to the forum - but this feels more like Ratimov/Symmetrick is purposefully under the microscope even after Ratimov/Symmetrick left DT1. He's out, mission accomplished? Just lock the thread unless they get back in DT1/Somehow re-include themselves?...and if so, then reopen the thread? Or is the new goal to give them negative trust with the microscope, hence thread staying open?
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November 28, 2023, 01:08:34 PM

Look, I'm not going to apply Occam's toothbrush here, but here it is, if it smells like a scam, if it feels like a scam, and if it looks like a scam, then it is %100 a scam. But you'll get used to it. I might even surpass your ratings before the end of my miserable forum life.

What I wonder, I'm a jobless clown, but you have so many idiots buying your centralized scam, why are you here? You need sig spam payment? No more idiots buying your garbage?
This topic is now about a decision whether it warrants to tag someone for cancelling a sponsorship or not and to discuss whether or not if it was someone else, the same tag would have be given out without hesitation or not?

In another words, people here are figuring out how to agree upon a reasonable double standard.

Since there are no guidelines to follow, everyone expresses their opinions, until someone or a gang leader likes it, then it will become one of the DT's standards.
I'm sure you must know these things since you have a tent in courts for a while now.🤣

And btw, why do you shout admin's name? Did you drop on your head when you were a child or something? This is a decentralized trust system, there are no authorities here. You decide what is good or bad, and then if gang members liked it, they will give you a thumbs up, otherwise ~

Now is time for me to ignore this board and hit the road.
Meep meep! Lol @Tl you taught me this one.
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November 28, 2023, 11:06:01 AM

Fact: Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.
Topic name: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Should? How can he get out of DT if he is not a member there?

He is once a DT and just distrusted by many DT that’s why he got removed. His change of name recently makes it looks like that he is not a DT a long time ago or never become a DT since it’s fresh data for his new username.

This thread serves as discussion on his recent action on why he is not a DT anymore and other aftermath matters
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November 28, 2023, 10:57:20 AM
Theymos, what kind of circus is going on here?

That guy Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.

Why are all these blaming clowns still hanging around here, in the topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1?

Heloooooo? Anybody home? At you all? That guy Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.

I repeat for the stupid:

Fact: Ratimov left DT a long ago on his own initiative.
Topic name: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Should? How can he get out of DT if he is not a member there?

sr. member
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November 28, 2023, 10:46:08 AM
But what if Rollbit or Sportsbet denies to pay the promised prize? Wouldn't you guys leave them a tag because they were suppose to pay the prize. Isn't it same like a person promised he will pay if I win, now I won, but he said he won't pay me. I guess it's same. The difference is, the corrent contest isn't ended yet.

Well I suppose there would be debate as now, because of the previous positive reputation of those houses, but I'm sure if it was a lesser known house or the forumer in question one with a lesser previous reputation he would already have some red in his profile.

We see debates because most of the cases against casinos are not clear enough. If a player accuses any casino of a scam, we know that most of the player does not tell the full story. They write it as if they are the victim. They always avoid the part where they abuse the platform. Which is the reason we cannot take any side without any proof. Now, If you talk about the prize of some contest, what would you do?

In most cases, people won't react even if they withdraw the prize from the pool in a couple of weeks. What if they ran a contest for eleven months saying they would give you the prize and suddenly withdraw it? The host should be more responsible regarding the prize and the funds too.
legendary
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November 28, 2023, 10:23:07 AM
It does not need to be a larger scale event. The problem here is that the forum is in limbo, the members are from very different countries and we are not identified, but in my country, and I'm sure it's not the only one, you could be sued for something like that, it's about 1.500€.

It would be interesting to see if any of the winners (if not all) will create a flag against Ratimov's sudden decision to not do the promised payment. They would be entitled to accuse him, since they would be the ones prejuduced.
legendary
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November 28, 2023, 09:59:57 AM
If I am not wrong, I have seen some content in this forum where every time participant has to pay fees and they had to pay it before they join. The organizer make sure they receive the funds for the prize pool. Even the sponsors send the funds to the organizer most of the time.

Well, now that you mention it, at my local board we did a price prediction contest and all 6 sponsors put up the money before it went ahead. It wasn't a bet between the 6 of us, it was open to other people, with some rules like having written at least 1 post in the local section that year.

But what if Rollbit or Sportsbet denies to pay the promised prize? Wouldn't you guys leave them a tag because they were suppose to pay the prize. Isn't it same like a person promised he will pay if I win, now I won, but he said he won't pay me. I guess it's same. The difference is, the corrent contest isn't ended yet.

Well I suppose there would be debate as now, because of the previous positive reputation of those houses, but I'm sure if it was a lesser known house or the forumer in question one with a lesser previous reputation he would already have some red in his profile.
sr. member
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November 28, 2023, 09:53:59 AM
Since that contest was mentioned only in this forum and mainly on that particular thread, this didn't get much attention, but if this were a larger scale event, there would be legal repercussions against a sponsor backing out like this, and also going forward all the funds should be secured by the organizer long before the event is concluded for the benefit of the participants...

If I am not wrong, I have seen some content in this forum where every time participant has to pay fees and they had to pay it before they join. The organizer make sure they receive the funds for the prize pool. Even the sponsors send the funds to the organizer most of the time. I did not check some contest if sponsors paid the amount already or not. But what if Rollbit or Sportsbet denies to pay the promised prize? Wouldn't you guys leave them a tag because they were suppose to pay the prize. Isn't it same like a person promised he will pay if I win, now I won, but he said he won't pay me. I guess it's same. The difference is, the corrent contest isn't ended yet.
legendary
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November 28, 2023, 09:45:27 AM
Since that contest was mentioned only in this forum and mainly on that particular thread, this didn't get much attention, but if this were a larger scale event, there would be legal repercussions against a sponsor backing out like this, and also going forward all the funds should be secured by the organizer long before the event is concluded for the benefit of the participants...

It does not need to be a larger scale event. The problem here is that the forum is in limbo, the members are from very different countries and we are not identified, but in my country, and I'm sure it's not the only one, you could be sued for something like that, it's about 1.500€.
legendary
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November 28, 2023, 08:47:26 AM
The way the offer was made it looked like him calling himself a "sponsor" was all he wanted out of it. He gets that for about 11 months out of 12, and then withdraws the offer. Does not seem right no matter how I try to look at it.

Yes that's an accurate analysis, I just found out only a few days ago that the rewards were reduced...

For an event scheduled to last 12 months, if you get the prestige of being its "sponsor" for 11 months and back out of the deal in the last month, naturally this cannot be considered ethical.

Since that contest was mentioned only in this forum and mainly on that particular thread, this didn't get much attention, but if this were a larger scale event, there would be legal repercussions against a sponsor backing out like this, and also going forward all the funds should be secured by the organizer long before the event is concluded for the benefit of the participants...
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November 28, 2023, 02:39:36 AM
Ratimov reduced the pledged amount by 0.0435 BTC, currently worth $1649, after 90% of the contest's running time passed.

Now he has a good reason for that. In short, Ratimov Symmetrick made a new "trick":

Today I am leaving the [banned mixer] campaign, thank you for the opportunity to represent this service.

The good reason I mentioned above is, of course, the fact that he can not pay since he is not receiving any payment from a signature campaign (/s).



Now all that's left is changing the payment address for his signature campaign Tongue

You did not see that coming, LV! Smiley Instead of changing the address, he left the campaign.
And this only proves my earlier statement:

In this guy's case everything looks shady. Even the new name, because "Symmetrick" contains the part "Trick"... Like he is trying another trick. Maybe his final trick before exiting the stage?
legendary
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November 27, 2023, 09:09:58 PM
On a side note, love how you guys are worried about leaving a tag and want to have solid reasoning. Wish we had that in our universe where I'm from.😅
Well, where the rest of us are at, this method is the most prudent when there's a contentious issue.  Some red tags can be handed out with zero debate while others are way more complicated.

You take a week off from a thread, and it's like stepping into an alternate universe – either the thread got wiped out, or we've got a brand-new OP.
No shit.  I read most of this thread when it started, and right now I feel like I need to go back and figure out just what the hell is really going on.  Guess I haven't really been paying attention to this--or at least not enough.

So Symmetric (ex. Ratimov) went to the full length of lodging a request with a site administrator just to change his username? AFAIK this is the only way it's possible to be done outside of being a VIP (50 BTC donation).
And it was granted just like that? Uhhh... Weird but ok.  Huh
Nah, lots of members (including yours truly) have gotten name changes granted via a simple request to Theymos.  Hell, cryptovatorcoolvator even got two of them.  And yeah, I know this has already been addressed.
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November 27, 2023, 06:22:02 PM
All of my giveaways will be paid out as planned. I'll publicly announce the winners when the giveaways will conclude.
Had a small question, 1miau. What giveaway? Tongue
I'm sometimes doing very small giveaways, like here.
It's not much but it's honest work.  Wink



So, I guess the mempool will have fewer unconfirmed transactions. I would love to contribute these tiny 0.5 mBTC, and I will send it whenever I see the mempool has cooled down a little bit.
Many thanks for your generous offer, LearnBitcoin. But I'll cover this one, it's fine for me.  Smiley



@GazetaBitcoin, Sorry for off-topic.
Sorry for off-topic here as well, back to SymmetrickCheesy
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November 27, 2023, 06:54:58 AM
Do you think so?
I guess that was pointed out by someone already, and I thought it fit better.

In the past week, at least 4 users got a name change.

I haven't seen any application thread for a name change. Did they send a PM to theymos for that? Look at my username. I get unnecessary daily mentions of useless topics like Helping kids learn Bitcoin, teaching kids about Bitcoin is not in vain, etc. Whenever people use this word, I get notified via Telegram with TryNinja's bot.

What is the good reason for changing a username? Is my reason good enough to consider?

@GazetaBitcoin, Sorry for off-topic.
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