Topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? - page 10. (Read 9836 times)

Up to you what you should do or not do, you can choose to ignore and not be bothered. Or you can choose to not ignore and be bothered.. but if you can choose option one, is strange to choose option two and also complain.. jus relax bro, they are just talking about you nothing more.. relax enjoy life

It will probably be comfortable for some, but is it what I really should do? Why? Just because it will be easier for some to tease an absent opponent? One-man show could be an interesting idea for theater, but it is not as good for forums.

Of course some can ignore teasing... but some prefer not to. If it is a topic about "user Ratimov" then it should be not so hard to not to discuss me here.

I think this topic is about user Ratimov.... if you dont like people that typing your nick you should disable notifications 

LMAO!
My dear Marcel, I think you should, instead, work harder for elevating your judgement to madnessteat's standards


That's a good question and it applies also to the remaining 47 users which still trust Ratimov (they were 49 in the last update, but meanwhile Charles-Tim also deleted him from his Trust list) -- Balthazar, silversurfer1958, peloso, Gianluca95, rby, SiNeReiNZzz, thandie, tmfp, s0nix, WhiteManWhite, nimogsm, SPQRCoin, my luck, FutureBitcoin, Wapfika, dimonstration, whyrqa, BtcMan2009, CarnagexD, imhoneer, Chrystora123, Best_Change, KTChampions, Smartprofit, Coin-1, Julien_Olynpic, sky999, Ridcan, bubbalex, XEOP$, taikuri13, Snork1979, DabLjat, FontSeli, YOSHIE, elmanchez, KOPHEP, WEX-SCAM, ajanwalker, Zilon, _BlackStar, Shamm, KingsDen, Nathrixxx, SatoPrincess, Silence Scream and Jossque.

KOPHEP and Nathrixxx are banned so they can't answer this question, while others are inactive. Yet the question is still valid for many of the names mentioned above.

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

That's okay I'm much more curious why he still includes someone without Trust list and without sent feedback.

All proof is in OP.


Ratimov benefited from the presumption of innocence for 4 years. Until people finally started to open their eyes.


I stated that you are his minion, not friend.


This will happen if it'll be the case.

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Meanwhile, Ratimov's no. 1 fan (after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!) decided that judgement of LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis is not up to his standards.



As a curiosity, he also distrusted me but 1h33'03" later he decided that I am not that untrustworthy so he deleted me from his distrust list.

This topic is about keeping certain people on DT, there has been so many verdicts, people have passed their judgements, I'm starting to think if OP is truly fit to be on DT or not, of course I have nothing against him, I don't find him untrustworthy. I'm just concerned about his poor judgement, after all we need vigilant people with good eyes to be able to spot exemplary members and introduce them to the community via DT inclusion.

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New evidence resurfaced,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63194074

Introducing an exemplary member according to Gazeta's opinion, which makes you wonder, how many of such great members are included on his trust list and the trust list of other DT members?

Gazeta posted that on 18 November, 1miau corruption has been confirmed on 21 November.
Poor judgement skills. Btw, I'm not here to defend Ratimov, but as I said before, if he corrects the past unjust feedbacks, no need to remove him from DT, but unfortunately he made a mistake by deleting a lot of his topics, which I don't think many people would forgive.

Bottom line, please don't use trust system for retaliation, things will work out in time if you were wronged by someone, instead open a thread and explain/defend yourself. Sorry for posting here again, it seemed important.

I am not intimidating anyone, I am expressing my point of view and I have every right to do so. If you had any proof of Ratimov's abuses, I would have a completely different opinion of him. But you still have no solid evidence, so all your accusations are just assumptions. One must not forget the presumption of innocence.

As for Kingf1sher, I told him that where I live, words he said to me would get his nose broken. I did not threaten him. A threat implies that a person promises to do something bad to an opponent. I can't even imagine threatening someone on an anonymous forum. It's a load of crap.

As far as I remember our conflict was closed by mutual consent, as stated in the guidelines of the administrator of this forum.

I have never been covered by moderators, as any swearing on the forum is considered off-topic and is deleted by them according to the forum rules.

I am not a friend of Ratimov as you stated above. I tried to contact him via private messages regarding this thread, but he never replied to me.

If you have any claims against me then create a separate thread. I am ready to answer for my every word unlike you. As I have already said more than once on this forum I am ready to bear any punishment with my head up if I really deserve it, up to the blocking of the account, because I am an honest person and I have absolutely nothing to hide. Just take into account that I will request the support of DT members, as I clearly see that your actions are contrary to the recommendations of the administrator of this forum.

Umm... how? Racism is one of the view incorporated by nazism, but it's not interchangable. Someone in China can be a racist that'll shame the demon prince of racism and he's not necessarily a nazi simply because he did not having the nazism ideology.

Gazeta, pardon the small derailment.

Luckily, I'm neither a racist nor a nazi. And I believe the same applies to Don Pedro Dinero, who was accused to be a "Nazi" as well in your excessive trolling rant.
Do you have some more aggressive name calling nonsense? Maybe Ratimov can learn something from you. 

I will not respond here anymore, I have a topic on him, you can ask me there, but for clarification, he is a racist EXTREME. hence he is a nazi. Why don't I go around the forum and call random people nazi?

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Whether you were born in Russia, in Romania, in China etc, if you are a racist, you are a nazi.
Edit: today's lesson is : a dictator who is also a racist is called "nazi".

Many thanks for your positive feedback. I appreciate it very much, especially because I didn't expect it.  

Because he doesn't have any arguments left. Like Ratimov did against GazetaBitcoin, there's just name calling left. And "Nazi" is one of the most common insults. On the forum, 99% of the cases where someone is called "Nazi", the accused person doesn't share Nazi ideology.
So, instead of presenting some arguments, it's a Nazi.
Just few days ago, stompix made a very good comparison:

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It's even more impressive how he messed it up. Even the most level headed and calm DT1 members took action. That's really unprecedeted and probably Ratimov still thinks he's right.  

I don't think he is a voice actor but, for sure, he is an actor. He played his role well all these years when he succeeded in fooling all the forum about what-a-great-contributor the imposter is.

Maybe he is a voice actor and so many offensive sentences are the result of him dubbing this movie? Кpoвь и бeтoн

Your English is bad? You are a typical German who when asked Sprichst du Englisch? answers with Ich spreche ein bisschen Englisch but speaks and writes in English better than any random British or American. Okay, I'm kidding but your English is not bad, it's gut!

This quote of yours makes me think that he is not a trust abuser. Why do you call him nazi? Because he is a German?

So Ratimov received 1522 merits (which is more than necessary for becoming Legendary!!!) for writing a few letters. Those must have been amazing letters!

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And, as great minds think the same, I also thought about a short analysis today: it's the first time in the past 214 weeks since Ratimov's supporters (n.b. -- users trusting him) are not more than the ones distrusting him. On latest update provided by LV, there are 49 users trusting him and 49 distrusting him.

There are still a lot trusting him but the balance goes in the right direction, to say so. For example, at the end of week 45, so just before he made the circus inside AOBT thread (which generated everything that followed), he was trusted by 71 users and distrusted by only 24. During same week, his DT strength was +13, while now it is -9.

And I am sure that the numbers of those distrusting him and of those which will stop trusting him will keep growing.

I've been curious for a while, so I checked: Ratimov (2627711) received 1110/11924=9.30% Merit for deleted posts and 1522/11924=12.76% Merit for short posts. Note that posts on hidden (Mod) boards are counted as "deleted" because I don't see them.
This includes all Merit data up to theymos' last Merit data dump (last Friday).

I consider posts with less than 16 characters to be short posts. In most cases, this means the user wiped the content of his post, but this can have false positives, or false negatives (it's tricky to check the real post length with BBCode and Russian characters, and short posts can be worth Merit). That's why I list all short posts here, labeled as the number of Merit they received:
8, 33, 21, 14, 23, 6, 8, 4, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 10, 10, 1, 12, 32, 3, 2, 2, 6, 14, 3, 10, 28, 2, 14, 2, 7, 60, 4, 2, 1, 5, 1, 19, 5, 10, 7, 13, 9, 1, 4, 2, 8, 1, 1, 4, 22, 2, 2, 1, 5, 24, 52, 2, 25, 4, 14, 10, 2, 8, 9, 2, 1, 1, 3, 42, 5, 23, 17, 5, 18, 1, 1, 291, 7, 9, 3, 17, 10, 2, 10, 8, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 35, 60, 3, 4, 1, 35, 18, 2, 94, 5, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 34, 40
I didn't check for posts that had a username change after theymos restored them, but if the post was replaced by something short, they're included in this list.
I'll create full data on all users, but that takes a while to scrape.

Thank you for clarifying this, lovesmayfamilis.

So let me see if I understood this right: it was madnessteat the one threatening Kingf1sher, right? If so, are you so kind, please, to find the post containing those threats? I would like to report them, as this deserves a ban.

As a coincidence, this only proves a Romanian saying: tell me who your friends are, so I'll know who you are. madnessteat is one of Ratimov's minions and this says a lot about Ratimov's character as well.

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As for the recent discussion about 1miau, I believe that his reputation precedes him and everybody knows what an exemplary forum contributor he is.

I won’t take anyone’s side here since you already know my position, but Kingf1sher’s post was not about Ratimov. This was probably misunderstood. I can't find the threat post, but confirmation that Kingf1sher was talking about madnessteat remains in the archives. I also remember that story where Madnessteat somehow "threatened" Kingf1sher. The latter was painted with a negative trust for purchasing the account, and his communication with Madnessteat went beyond the bounds of decency. From here, you can see that this drama between them continues on any topic.
https://ninjastic.space/post/53473695

I know and I totally agree to you that it's important to combat this. 
It's a lot of work for campaign managers, so community reviews are always welcome.

My replies weren't meant to "dismiss" it or to downplay this sort of issue, sorry if my joke with "You know, I'm something of AI myself" wasn't that funny as I've expected. 
Sometimes, bad jokes can cause confusion.

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Exactly this and this hasn't been the first time, digaran engaged in excessive trolling:



(And that's only what I've detected in the threads I've read.)

Looks like I'm living in his mind rent-free. 
And if there was any doubt if these feedbacks on digaran's account were justified, at least now we know that they are 100% deserved.