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Topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? - page 10. (Read 9809 times)

newbie
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November 21, 2023, 06:59:17 AM

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

I think this topic is about user Ratimov.... if you dont like people that typing your nick you should disable notifications  Cool

It will probably be comfortable for some, but is it what I really should do? Why? Just because it will be easier for some to tease an absent opponent? One-man show could be an interesting idea for theater, but it is not as good for forums. Smiley

Of course some can ignore teasing... but some prefer not to. If it is a topic about "user Ratimov" then it should be not so hard to not to discuss me here. Wink

Up to you what you should do or not do, you can choose to ignore and not be bothered. Or you can choose to not ignore and be bothered.. but if you can choose option one, is strange to choose option two and also complain.. jus relax bro, they are just talking about you nothing more.. relax enjoy life
legendary
Activity: 1974
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November 21, 2023, 06:42:34 AM

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

I think this topic is about user Ratimov.... if you dont like people that typing your nick you should disable notifications  Cool

It will probably be comfortable for some, but is it what I really should do? Why? Just because it will be easier for some to tease an absent opponent? One-man show could be an interesting idea for theater, but it is not as good for forums. Smiley

Of course some can ignore teasing... but some prefer not to. If it is a topic about "user Ratimov" then it should be not so hard to not to discuss me here. Wink
newbie
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November 21, 2023, 06:14:39 AM

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.

I think this topic is about user Ratimov.... if you dont like people that typing your nick you should disable notifications  Cool
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 05:28:42 AM
That's okay Smiley

LMAO!
My dear Marcel, I think you should, instead, work harder for elevating your judgement to madnessteat's standards

I'm much more curious why he still includes someone without Trust list and without sent feedback.

That's a good question and it applies also to the remaining 47 users which still trust Ratimov (they were 49 in the last update, but meanwhile Charles-Tim also deleted him from his Trust list) -- Balthazar, silversurfer1958, peloso, Gianluca95, rby, SiNeReiNZzz, thandie, tmfp, s0nix, WhiteManWhite, nimogsm, SPQRCoin, my luck, FutureBitcoin, Wapfika, dimonstration, whyrqa, BtcMan2009, CarnagexD, imhoneer, Chrystora123, Best_Change, KTChampions, Smartprofit, Coin-1, Julien_Olynpic, sky999, Ridcan, bubbalex, XEOP$, taikuri13, Snork1979, DabLjat, FontSeli, YOSHIE, elmanchez, KOPHEP, WEX-SCAM, ajanwalker, Zilon, _BlackStar, Shamm, KingsDen, Nathrixxx, SatoPrincess, Silence Scream and Jossque.

KOPHEP and Nathrixxx are banned so they can't answer this question, while others are inactive. Yet the question is still valid for many of the names mentioned above.
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 05:25:35 AM

Is this topic about Ratimov or about me? If you are interpreting my actions the way you like despite that I said everything I wanted about the case myself, I have a lot of doubts that you are unbiased enough to judge any other's behavior. The more you interpret others' actions now, the more this topic starts to be about you and the way you behave than about Ratimov.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 21, 2023, 04:59:51 AM
decided that judgement of LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis is not up to his standards.
That's okay Smiley I'm much more curious why he still includes someone without Trust list and without sent feedback.
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 04:13:34 AM
If you had any proof of Ratimov's abuses, I would have a completely different opinion of him.

All proof is in OP.

One must not forget the presumption of innocence.

Ratimov benefited from the presumption of innocence for 4 years. Until people finally started to open their eyes.

I am not a friend of Ratimov as you stated above.

I stated that you are his minion, not friend.

As I have already said more than once on this forum I am ready to bear any punishment with my head up if I really deserve it, up to the blocking of the account

This will happen if it'll be the case.



Meanwhile, Ratimov's no. 1 fan (after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!) decided that judgement of LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis is not up to his standards.



As a curiosity, he also distrusted me but 1h33'03" later he decided that I am not that untrustworthy so he deleted me from his distrust list.
copper member
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November 21, 2023, 02:57:35 AM
As for the recent discussion about 1miau, I believe that his reputation precedes him and everybody knows what an exemplary forum contributor he is.
This topic is about keeping certain people on DT, there has been so many verdicts, people have passed their judgements, I'm starting to think if OP is truly fit to be on DT or not, of course I have nothing against him, I don't find him untrustworthy. I'm just concerned about his poor judgement, after all we need vigilant people with good eyes to be able to spot exemplary members and introduce them to the community via DT inclusion.

New evidence resurfaced,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63194074

Introducing an exemplary member according to Gazeta's opinion, which makes you wonder, how many of such great members are included on his trust list and the trust list of other DT members?

Gazeta posted that on 18 November, 1miau corruption has been confirmed on 21 November.
Poor judgement skills. Btw, I'm not here to defend Ratimov, but as I said before, if he corrects the past unjust feedbacks, no need to remove him from DT, but unfortunately he made a mistake by deleting a lot of his topics, which I don't think many people would forgive.

Bottom line, please don't use trust system for retaliation, things will work out in time if you were wronged by someone, instead open a thread and explain/defend yourself. Sorry for posting here again, it seemed important.
legendary
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November 20, 2023, 01:28:04 PM
maybe it’s worth reminding the person who likes to crunch their nose how the moderators covered for him when he threatened me with physical harm?
he once told me that he wanted to break my nose when we met, but instead of being banned, he now continues to intimidate us with negative feedback)
if he says that this is not so, I will try to find these threats in my archives) There will be many questions about whether Russian moderators were covering for him.. and if I’m not mistaken, he also tried to defend Ratimov then

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.

I am not intimidating anyone, I am expressing my point of view and I have every right to do so. If you had any proof of Ratimov's abuses, I would have a completely different opinion of him. But you still have no solid evidence, so all your accusations are just assumptions. One must not forget the presumption of innocence.

As for Kingf1sher, I told him that where I live, words he said to me would get his nose broken. I did not threaten him. A threat implies that a person promises to do something bad to an opponent. I can't even imagine threatening someone on an anonymous forum. It's a load of crap.

As far as I remember our conflict was closed by mutual consent, as stated in the guidelines of the administrator of this forum.

I have never been covered by moderators, as any swearing on the forum is considered off-topic and is deleted by them according to the forum rules.

I am not a friend of Ratimov as you stated above. I tried to contact him via private messages regarding this thread, but he never replied to me.

If you have any claims against me then create a separate thread. I am ready to answer for my every word unlike you. As I have already said more than once on this forum I am ready to bear any punishment with my head up if I really deserve it, up to the blocking of the account, because I am an honest person and I have absolutely nothing to hide. Just take into account that I will request the support of DT members, as I clearly see that your actions are contrary to the recommendations of the administrator of this forum.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
November 20, 2023, 06:09:17 AM
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Whether you were born in Russia, in Romania, in China etc, if you are a racist, you are a nazi.

Umm... how? Racism is one of the view incorporated by nazism, but it's not interchangable. Someone in China can be a racist that'll shame the demon prince of racism and he's not necessarily a nazi simply because he did not having the nazism ideology.

Gazeta, pardon the small derailment.
legendary
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November 20, 2023, 05:47:26 AM

Whether you were born in Russia, in Romania, in China etc, if you are a racist, you are a nazi.
Luckily, I'm neither a racist nor a nazi. And I believe the same applies to Don Pedro Dinero, who was accused to be a "Nazi" as well in your excessive trolling rant.
Do you have some more aggressive name calling nonsense? Maybe Ratimov can learn something from you.  Roll Eyes
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November 20, 2023, 05:35:53 AM
This quote of yours makes me think that he is not a trust abuser. Why do you call him nazi? Because he is a German?
I will not respond here anymore, I have a topic on him, you can ask me there, but for clarification, he is a racist EXTREME. hence he is a nazi. Why don't I go around the forum and call random people nazi?

Whether you were born in Russia, in Romania, in China etc, if you are a racist, you are a nazi.
Edit: today's lesson is : a dictator who is also a racist is called "nazi".
legendary
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November 20, 2023, 04:54:41 AM
And I thought my English is bad.  Cheesy
Your English is bad? You are a typical German who when asked Sprichst du Englisch? answers with Ich spreche ein bisschen Englisch but speaks and writes in English better than any random British or American. Okay, I'm kidding but your English is not bad, it's gut!
Many thanks for your positive feedback. I appreciate it very much, especially because I didn't expect it.  Cheesy

@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.
Why do you call him nazi? Because he is a German?
Because he doesn't have any arguments left. Like Ratimov did against GazetaBitcoin, there's just name calling left. And "Nazi" is one of the most common insults. On the forum, 99% of the cases where someone is called "Nazi", the accused person doesn't share Nazi ideology.
So, instead of presenting some arguments, it's a Nazi.
Just few days ago, stompix made a very good comparison:

Don't tell me, you and your nazi

Yawn, everyone used this nazi thing on everything that it lost all meaning, nazi this nazi that, nobody reacts to that anymore, replace nazi with pomegranate ice cream and you get the same reaction, nothing!



Maybe he is a voice actor and so many offensive sentences are the result of him dubbing this movie?

I don't think he is a voice actor but, for sure, he is an actor. He played his role well all these years when he succeeded in fooling all the forum about what-a-great-contributor the imposter is.
It's even more impressive how he messed it up. Even the most level headed and calm DT1 members took action. That's really unprecedeted and probably Ratimov still thinks he's right.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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November 20, 2023, 03:47:19 AM
Maybe he is a voice actor and so many offensive sentences are the result of him dubbing this movie?

I don't think he is a voice actor but, for sure, he is an actor. He played his role well all these years when he succeeded in fooling all the forum about what-a-great-contributor the imposter is.
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November 20, 2023, 03:43:45 AM
However, by reading again this feedback he left a while ago, the surprise would not be too big anymore...

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A fuckhead with a broken head. After being raped by all the WEX employees, taking all his mother's money [...]
Maybe he is a voice actor and so many offensive sentences are the result of him dubbing this movie? Кpoвь и бeтoн

Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   Undecided
Huh Huh

Seriously?
And I thought my English is bad.  Cheesy
Your English is bad? You are a typical German who when asked Sprichst du Englisch? answers with Ich spreche ein bisschen Englisch but speaks and writes in English better than any random British or American. Okay, I'm kidding but your English is not bad, it's gut!

@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.
This quote of yours makes me think that he is not a trust abuser. Why do you call him nazi? Because he is a German?
legendary
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November 19, 2023, 03:45:00 AM
I've been curious for a while, so I checked: Ratimov (2627711) received 1110/11924=9.30% Merit for deleted posts and 1522/11924=12.76% Merit for short posts.

So Ratimov received 1522 merits (which is more than necessary for becoming Legendary!!!) for writing a few letters. Those must have been amazing letters!



And, as great minds think the same, I also thought about a short analysis today: it's the first time in the past 214 weeks since Ratimov's supporters (n.b. -- users trusting him) are not more than the ones distrusting him. On latest update provided by LV, there are 49 users trusting him and 49 distrusting him.

There are still a lot trusting him but the balance goes in the right direction, to say so. For example, at the end of week 45, so just before he made the circus inside AOBT thread (which generated everything that followed), he was trusted by 71 users and distrusted by only 24. During same week, his DT strength was +13, while now it is -9.

And I am sure that the numbers of those distrusting him and of those which will stop trusting him will keep growing.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 19, 2023, 02:58:45 AM
Right now all these topics looks spam threads with so many merits wasted.
I've been curious for a while, so I checked: Ratimov (2627711) received 1110/11924=9.30% Merit for deleted posts and 1522/11924=12.76% Merit for short posts. Note that posts on hidden (Mod) boards are counted as "deleted" because I don't see them.
This includes all Merit data up to theymos' last Merit data dump (last Friday).

I consider posts with less than 16 characters to be short posts. In most cases, this means the user wiped the content of his post, but this can have false positives, or false negatives (it's tricky to check the real post length with BBCode and Russian characters, and short posts can be worth Merit). That's why I list all short posts here, labeled as the number of Merit they received:
8, 33, 21, 14, 23, 6, 8, 4, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 10, 10, 1, 12, 32, 3, 2, 2, 6, 14, 3, 10, 28, 2, 14, 2, 7, 60, 4, 2, 1, 5, 1, 19, 5, 10, 7, 13, 9, 1, 4, 2, 8, 1, 1, 4, 22, 2, 2, 1, 5, 24, 52, 2, 25, 4, 14, 10, 2, 8, 9, 2, 1, 1, 3, 42, 5, 23, 17, 5, 18, 1, 1, 291, 7, 9, 3, 17, 10, 2, 10, 8, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 35, 60, 3, 4, 1, 35, 18, 2, 94, 5, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 34, 40
I didn't check for posts that had a username change after theymos restored them, but if the post was replaced by something short, they're included in this list.
I'll create full data on all users, but that takes a while to scrape.
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 11:20:09 AM
I won’t take anyone’s side here since you already know my position, but Kingf1sher’s post was not about Ratimov. This was probably misunderstood. I can't find the threat post, but confirmation that Kingf1sher was talking about madnessteat remains in the archives. I also remember that story where Madnessteat somehow "threatened" Kingf1sher.

Thank you for clarifying this, lovesmayfamilis.

So let me see if I understood this right: it was madnessteat the one threatening Kingf1sher, right? If so, are you so kind, please, to find the post containing those threats? I would like to report them, as this deserves a ban.

As a coincidence, this only proves a Romanian saying: tell me who your friends are, so I'll know who you are. madnessteat is one of Ratimov's minions and this says a lot about Ratimov's character as well.



As for the recent discussion about 1miau, I believe that his reputation precedes him and everybody knows what an exemplary forum contributor he is.
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 09:56:09 AM

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.

I won’t take anyone’s side here since you already know my position, but Kingf1sher’s post was not about Ratimov. This was probably misunderstood. I can't find the threat post, but confirmation that Kingf1sher was talking about madnessteat remains in the archives. I also remember that story where Madnessteat somehow "threatened" Kingf1sher. The latter was painted with a negative trust for purchasing the account, and his communication with Madnessteat went beyond the bounds of decency. From here, you can see that this drama between them continues on any topic.
https://ninjastic.space/post/53473695
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 09:24:51 AM
1miau, a lot of non-english speakers want to be on this forum and pretend to be english speakers.    Lips sealed   They can generate intelligent text in their language, edit and translate.   
I know and I totally agree to you that it's important to combat this.  Smiley
It's a lot of work for campaign managers, so community reviews are always welcome.

I'm not saying in any way that is what happened here - I'm just pointing out it is a possibility that shouldn't be dismissed as easily as you did.
My replies weren't meant to "dismiss" it or to downplay this sort of issue, sorry if my joke with "You know, I'm something of AI myself" wasn't that funny as I've expected.  Cheesy
Sometimes, bad jokes can cause confusion.



@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

But you are the one who is poking 1miau and want to fuel it. LOL
Exactly this and this hasn't been the first time, digaran engaged in excessive trolling:

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This is because these users are examples, indeed. They are also Merit Sources and (with few exceptions) DT1 users. And they act fair and decent.
Thanks for the joke OP.

Don't tell me, you and your nazi friend will give them neutral or even negative, right? Because who really cares if 2 nazis run around the forum and individually harass forum members with threats, trust feedbacks, am I right or am I right?

The way I see some of you weasel nazis operate, soon it will be you and your alts all alone left here with nothing to do but circle fingering each other.😅

(And that's only what I've detected in the threads I've read.)

Looks like I'm living in his mind rent-free.  Roll Eyes
And if there was any doubt if these feedbacks on digaran's account were justified, at least now we know that they are 100% deserved.  Cheesy
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