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Topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? - page 9. (Read 9810 times)

legendary
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November 23, 2023, 08:56:30 AM
As far as I know it's impossible to change forum profile number, unless you are theymos or moderator, so his UID number remains the same - 2627711.
He can change his username as much as he wants, for whatever reason, but this is certainly not the first time that someone has done did.
I see he also changed his password and email today...

Yeah but what about those sweet sweet sig campaign satoshis... it would take MONTHS to get back to that level LOL
It's interesting that after all this circus he remained in the same campaign, but I think that manager added him on his Distrust list  Wink
legendary
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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
November 23, 2023, 06:32:03 AM
Somewhere I read Ratimov is his last name.
Ironically, I only read that after his name change. That means the privacy argument for changing his name backfired.
Right now nothing is going the way Symmetrick Ratimov wants but the cycle of life is a karma. Who knows after a few years some day a new Legendary will raise high and will introduce himself as the former Ratimov. We will then look at that account. 1000 merit, 977 activity, 7566 posts, registered date September 26, 2023, 07:23:05 PM. This new high raised legendary will never have a history of plagiarism, trust abuse, and everyone will love him. I can hope for such a comeback.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 23, 2023, 06:19:20 AM
Somewhere I read Ratimov is his last name.
Ironically, I only read that after his name change. That means the privacy argument for changing his name backfired.
legendary
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November 23, 2023, 06:16:09 AM
And BitcoinGirl.Club
Shut up and stop spreading lies. Some may fail to understand the sarcasm.

Ratimov came to your satellite long long after I was protesting against his abuse. I even told you once that where have you been at that time? Then you obviously explained your reasons which I understood. I don't expect everyone especially the less-powerful accounts to risk their forum feedback page and become someone's victim. But credit goes to you that you put the pieces of the puzzles together and helped everyone to change their mind. I would never give such time and effort to write such a post.

Shall we call him Symmetrick Ratimov? Somewhere I read Ratimov is his last name.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 05:29:18 PM
I would argue that anyone looking to "start over" with a name change should do exactly that. Start from the beginning, no rank, no merit, no post history. Don't try to hide who you were.

Yeah but what about those sweet sweet sig campaign satoshis... it would take MONTHS to get back to that level LOL

Am I missing something as to why 1 would need a name change? From what I read on his DT case he got caught plagiarizing, he deleted lots of old threads, not sure if caught in lies but the point is now with the name change it feels like he is trying to hide the past.

There might be legitimate privacy reasons for a username change and in this case the username was a Russian last name, may or may not have been his real name, but I guess plausible enough to make an appeal to theymos to change it.

The timing of it though... no issues with bearing that username for years, now a "privacy" issue Roll Eyes
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 02:43:06 PM
I would argue that anyone looking to "start over" with a name change should do exactly that. Start from the beginning, no rank, no merit, no post history.

Ratimov aka Symmetrick wants to start over, but with no remaining evidence of his plagiarism, no evidence remaining of his Trust abuse and also with 11000 merits and +18 Trust score. Like a baws.

the point is now with the name change it feels like he is trying to hide the past.

You can bet on that. He wants to look innocent like a baby. Perhaps he also hopes that if anyone would make searches for "Ratimov plagiarist" or "Ratimov Trust abuser" that person would obtain fewer relevant links now, after he purged almost all his copy-pasted / plagiarized topics combined with the change of name.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 02:20:45 PM
I would argue that anyone looking to "start over" with a name change should do exactly that. Start from the beginning, no rank, no merit, no post history. Don't try to hide who you were.

Am I missing something as to why 1 would need a name change? From what I read on his DT case he got caught plagiarizing, he deleted lots of old threads, not sure if caught in lies but the point is now with the name change it feels like he is trying to hide the past.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 02:05:51 PM
Ratimov could argue he changed his username for privacy reasons. Lol.

He could argue for that, of course. But I believe he did it for putting some more distance between him and his plagiarism / Trust abusing background.


If the @OP change the subject to "Should Ratimov/Symmetrick be in DT1?" does it kills the purpose of changing username? Huh

I just changed it, in order to reflect the reality.



A new name, a new face, a new account (maybe?)

Sure, why not? From Symmetrick aka Ratimov you can expect anything.

Your Second Life on bitcointalk awaits.

Yes! Definitely! Symmetrick never plagiarized any content and he never abused any forum user through his DT powers! Symmetrick is a nice new guy here hooray!

Everybody needs a fresh start every now and then.

Yup! Especially after you were finally exposed for all the miserable stuff you did in the past.



First of all I recommend you to start learning using quotes. I see you are Legendary user but your posting etiquette is the one of a Newbie. Did you not know that you don't need to quote full huge posts or whole topics, but only the relevant parts? Here, let me help you out: [TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies).

If you presented such evidence in court, it would be immediately dismissed for lack of arguments.

Only that we are not in a Court of Law and the evidence I presented was good enough since so many users distrusted Ratimov.

I'm still thinking of adding you to my trust list with a tilde.

Oh how sweet of you for not doing it until now! /s
I mean go ahead, do it!

I will keep an eye on your future behavior.

I'll try so much to have my behavior up to your standards! (again, /s).

many people think so, but for some reason fear you.

Me vs. other people be like:


(Again, /s).

LoyceV is a helpful forum member whose work I respect, but it's not entirely clear to me how he was able to take your side in this conflict.

Perhaps you can say that... erm... I manipulated Switzerland? This would make me the only forum user which managed to manipulate LV's judgement. Oh but wait, then I also manipulated The Pharmacist. And suchmoon. and Foxpup. And fillippone. And 1miau. And icopress. And NeuroticFish. And vapourminer. And philipma1957. And BitcoinGirl.Club. And lovesmayfamilis. And klarki. And jokers10. And zasad@. And wwzsoki. And JollyGood. And holydarkness. And Rikafip. And Brainboss. And bullrun. and Stalker22. And examplens. And Bitcoin_Arena. And witcher_sense. And Charles-Tim. And sheenshane. And tvplus006.

Geez, I must be so good! I manipulated all those DT users

And also all the non-DT users which distrusted Ratimov! Meaning Learn Bitcoin, DYING_S0UL, Nestade, iwantmysecond1000yardsbackyardpaiswithbtctoo, owlcatz, nakamura12, Despairo, SmartGold01, DireWolfM14, light_warrior, Poker Player, PowerGlove, execijutiere, Synchronice, Plaguedeath, giammangiato...

Sacré bleu! How did I do it? I must be a magician!

It's quite possible that I'll put some of them back on my trust list.

I am sure that, in their privacy, lovesmayfamilis, suchmoon and LoyceV are praying every single day for you to add them to your Trust list again. sometimes they pray even 3 times in a day for this to happen.
copper member
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🖤😏
November 22, 2023, 10:30:36 AM
Wow, did he really change a name to paid2 so fast? Looks like someone is trying to win the hearts of DT members after receiving an unwarranted tag. @mr. President, I have spare blanket in my tent on this board, if you felt cold let me know.🙃

If this crusade is going to continue, please change the title to avoid any more confusion.
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
November 22, 2023, 09:03:37 AM
If I remember correctly, The Cryptovator changed his username twice in a short period. Still, theymos has proven that he follows events on the forum, although it does not participate in most of the discussions.
Your memory is correct.

The user got permission and support to change display name three times. Coolcryptovator, COOLCRYPTOVATOR and The Cryptovator. theymos dislikes if we mentioned people change usernames for privacy reasons but the user did it because of impersonators, hence I think it's not wrong to mention this here (but still, it is offtopic so I will stop here).

Display Name changed from "COOLCRYPTOVATOR" to "The Cryptovator" | Tnx Theymos
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 07:37:35 AM
Ratimov could argue he changed his username for privacy reasons. Lol.

I think someone more familiar said here that Ratimov is his last name in real life. From that point of view, this change is completely understandable. He probably should have done it earlier, this way it looks like the drop in ratings initiated the change.

I'm jealous lol! It's been 6 months since I asked to change my username to the admins!  Grin
Sometimes it takes a very tong time, but just hang in there and don't give up. Help me count. How many months were those, minus the time he waited after sending PMs?  Cheesy

If I remember correctly, The Cryptovator changed his username twice in a short period. Still, theymos has proven that he follows events on the forum, although it does not participate in most of the discussions.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 05:37:40 AM
Ratimov changed his username, now he is Symmetrick  Roll Eyes
He keeps surprising me. I'm impressed Cheesy

If the @OP change the subject to "Should Ratimov/Symmetrick be in DT1?" does it kills the purpose of changing username? Huh
It depends:
Why are you guys posting the old names of people who clearly needed their names changed for privacy reasons? Obviously any data posted online is going to be quickly archived somewhere, but that doesn't mean that your highlighting/reposting of it has no effect. In some cases you may literally be putting lives in danger. If you were investigating a scam or something, that'd be different, but you seem to just be indiscriminately & recklessly dredging up data that would best be forgotten.
Ratimov could argue he changed his username for privacy reasons. Lol.
hero member
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November 21, 2023, 11:25:57 PM
If the @OP change the subject to "Should Ratimov/Symmetrick be in DT1?" does it kills the purpose of changing username? Huh

edit : wow thank you! @theymos
I think every users who have/want to request to change their username need to post in this thread. Cheesy

Anyway congratulations, now your username looks simpler.
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November 21, 2023, 06:45:48 PM
I'm jealous lol! It's been 6 months since I asked to change my username to the admins!  Grin
Sometimes it takes a very tong time, but just hang in there and don't give up. Help me count. How many months were those, minus the time he waited after sending PMs?  Cheesy
hero member
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Crypto Swap Exchange
November 21, 2023, 06:33:15 PM
So Symmetric (ex. Ratimov) went to the full length of lodging a request with a site administrator just to change his username? AFAIK this is the only way it's possible to be done outside of being a VIP (50 BTC donation).
And it was granted just like that? Uhhh... Weird but ok.  Huh
I know a handful of members who were able to change their usernames upon making a request to the Administrator. It's not something automatic, but it's possible if someone making the request has valid reasons even if they were not VIP. From the administrative point of view, I don't see anything odd. From a user point of view… Well well well...

I'm jealous lol! It's been 6 months since I asked to change my username to the admins!  Grin



edit : wow thank you! @theymos
copper member
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November 21, 2023, 06:25:52 PM
So Symmetric (ex. Ratimov) went to the full length of lodging a request with a site administrator just to change his username? AFAIK this is the only way it's possible to be done outside of being a VIP (50 BTC donation).
And it was granted just like that? Uhhh... Weird but ok.  Huh
I know a handful of members who were able to change their usernames upon making a request to the Administrator. It's not something automatic, but it's possible if someone making the request has valid reasons even if they were not VIP. From the administrative point of view, I don't see anything odd. From a user point of view… Well well well...
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 06:15:37 PM
So Symmetric (ex. Ratimov) went to the full length of lodging a request with a site administrator just to change his username? AFAIK this is the only way it's possible to be done outside of being a VIP (50 BTC donation).
And it was granted just like that? Uhhh... Weird but ok.  Huh
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 05:38:36 PM
Ratimov gave multiple reasons over the years.

Ratimov?? Who is Ratimov?  Cheesy You mean Symmetrick?
This drama will never end. Ratimov changed his username, now he is Symmetrick  Roll Eyes


hero member
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November 21, 2023, 02:01:01 PM
LoyceV is a helpful forum member whose work I respect, but it's not entirely clear to me how he was able to take your side in this conflict. I guess he trusted you and therefore didn't take enough time to analyze the situation on his own.
I didn't take OP's side, I said that in my opinion both users shouldn't have left negative feedback for this. I don't easily exclude users, I think of it as a scale. Once it tips too far, I'll have to exclude someone. Let's say OP gave me only one reason to exclude him, Ratimov gave multiple reasons over the years.
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 12:26:11 PM
If you had any proof of Ratimov's abuses, I would have a completely different opinion of him.

All proof is in OP.

One must not forget the presumption of innocence.

Ratimov benefited from the presumption of innocence for 4 years. Until people finally started to open their eyes.

I am not a friend of Ratimov as you stated above.

I stated that you are his minion, not friend.

As I have already said more than once on this forum I am ready to bear any punishment with my head up if I really deserve it, up to the blocking of the account

This will happen if it'll be the case.



Meanwhile, Ratimov's no. 1 fan (after jokers10 decided to abandon the sinking ship, LOL!) decided that judgement of LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis is not up to his standards.



As a curiosity, he also distrusted me but 1h33'03" later he decided that I am not that untrustworthy so he deleted me from his distrust list.

As I have said many times in this thread this is not evidence but conjecture. If you presented such evidence in court, it would be immediately dismissed for lack of arguments.

I am neither a friend nor a minion of Ratimov. I know him as a useful user of this forum and that is enough for me to express my position when you try to suppress it.

I'm still thinking of adding you to my trust list with a tilde. I will keep an eye on your future behavior. So far it only indicates that you are unworthy of being in DT because you are jumping to conclusions based only on your hunches. That's not good enough. And rest assured that many people think so, but for some reason fear you.

Who I trust is my personal opinion and none of your business. No need to make a tragedy out of it or try to push me head-on with these forumers.

There was a time when I trusted LoyceV, suchmoon and lovesmayfamilis more.

LoyceV is a helpful forum member whose work I respect, but it's not entirely clear to me how he was able to take your side in this conflict. I guess he trusted you and therefore didn't take enough time to analyze the situation on his own.

suchmoon has surprised me for the second time. He was explained the whole situation with this conflict in Russian-language locale in detail almost minute by minute, but he still supports you. Even though he can't refute anything.

I was a staunch defender of lovesmayfamilis when she was banned. In part, I had a hand in mitigating her punishment. At least I think I did. I've long noticed that she has an opposing opinion to me on certain disputes regarding reputation on the forum, so I removed her from my trust list. I've been wanting to do this for a while, but I've been hesitant to do so.

It's quite possible that I'll put some of them back on my trust list.

 
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