Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - page 25.

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For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

None of these are supermax?
Wikipedia says they are "High Security"

There's is only one so-called supermax facility, which is ADX Florence.

Ok, so why is everyone talking about him go to a supermax prison. What are the chances of him going there?

People are talking about ADX Florence and "supermax," because people are really ignorant on this forum, and aren't really interested in knowing about the law and what's actually going on with Ulbricht's proceedings.

I think there are zero chances of him getting there. He has no history of personal violence and no history of in-prison violence and no prison-based support system (i.e. no prison gang).

So are you a cop or an ex-con?

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Quote from: forevernoob on June 07, 2015, 03:12:43 PM

Quote from: Blackbird0 on June 07, 2015, 12:06:38 PM

Quote from: forevernoob on June 07, 2015, 09:52:05 AM

Quote from: Blackbird0 on June 07, 2015, 09:04:32 AM

For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

None of these are supermax?
Wikipedia says they are "High Security"

There's is only one so-called supermax facility, which is ADX Florence.

Ok, so why is everyone talking about him go to a supermax prison. What are the chances of him going there?

People are talking about ADX Florence and "supermax," because people are really ignorant on this forum, and aren't really interested in knowing about the law and what's actually going on with Ulbricht's proceedings.

I think there are zero chances of him getting there. He has no history of personal violence and no history of in-prison violence and no prison-based support system (i.e. no prison gang).

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Quote from: sgk on June 07, 2015, 09:55:26 AM

Frankly I was expecting a harsh sentence.

Yeah.. sure.. he should have been burnt at stake.

Do you, and the other pro-FBI types in this forum realize that the sentence handed out to him was much more severe, when compared to those given to hardcore drug lords who have been dealing with drugs for many decades?

Uh ... his sentence was pretty in line with other "hardcore drug lords" get. Life.

Yeah, it's kinda strange that he didn't escape the US while had the chance. America has some of the toughest prison sentences in the world.
Did he really think his security was so good it was impossible for him to go down?
I doubt all the other dark market king pins are located in the US, although they might have better OP SEC.

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Quote from: Blackbird0 on June 07, 2015, 09:04:32 AM

For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

None of these are supermax?
Wikipedia says they are "High Security"

There's is only one so-called supermax facility, which is ADX Florence.

Ok, so why is everyone talking about him go to a supermax prison. What are the chances of him going there?

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Quote from: forevernoob on June 07, 2015, 09:52:05 AM

Quote from: Blackbird0 on June 07, 2015, 09:04:32 AM

For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

None of these are supermax?
Wikipedia says they are "High Security"

There's is only one so-called supermax facility, which is ADX Florence.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 07, 2015, 11:46:07 AM

Quote from: sgk on June 07, 2015, 09:55:26 AM

Frankly I was expecting a harsh sentence.

Yeah.. sure.. he should have been burnt at stake.

Do you, and the other pro-FBI types in this forum realize that the sentence handed out to him was much more severe, when compared to those given to hardcore drug lords who have been dealing with drugs for many decades?

Uh ... his sentence was pretty in line with other "hardcore drug lords" get. Life.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 07, 2015, 11:46:07 AM

Quote from: sgk on June 07, 2015, 09:55:26 AM

Frankly I was expecting a harsh sentence.

Yeah.. sure.. he should have been burnt at stake.

Do you, and the other pro-FBI types in this forum realize that the sentence handed out to him was much more severe, when compared to those given to hardcore drug lords who have been dealing with drugs for many decades?

Yes. I realize that very well.

You seem to be taking my post with a different point of view. When I said "I was expecting a harsh sentence" it didn't mean "I believe he deserved a harsh sentence". It simply meant "I expected the court to give him severe punishment" regardless of my personal opinion. In other words, I was not surprised the court did what it did; I was expecting them to act that way - no matter what we all felt was right or wrong.

Is that better way of explaining, or you still have trouble understading?

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Quote from: sgk on June 07, 2015, 09:55:26 AM

Frankly I was expecting a harsh sentence.

Yeah.. sure.. he should have been burnt at stake.

Do you, and the other pro-FBI types in this forum realize that the sentence handed out to him was much more severe, when compared to those given to hardcore drug lords who have been dealing with drugs for many decades?

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Frankly I was expecting a harsh sentence. He was caught with his open laptop, signed in to silk road with admin account. They had all the evidence and logs from his laptop to prove anything they wanted.
It was very clear from the beginning that he couldn't get away with it and teh court will try to set an example out of this case to warn other dark web markets.

If he wasn't caught red-handed, then he could have had bigger chance to get out of it.

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Quote from: Blackbird0 on June 07, 2015, 09:04:32 AM

For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

None of these are supermax?
Wikipedia says they are "High Security"

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Quote from: Blackbird0 on June 07, 2015, 09:04:32 AM

For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

So, Ross will still be jailed even if he challenges the judgement in higher court ?

He's been in prison since he first got arrested. So even if he was found not guilty he would have been in prison a year. Anyone know what happens when people have been jailed and then been found innocent? Do they get compensation for being falsely imprisoned? I can't imagine losing a year of your life for something like that and if I did I'd want to be adequately compensated.

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Quote from: Blackbird0 on June 07, 2015, 09:04:32 AM

For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

So, Ross will still be jailed even if he challenges the judgement in higher court ?

Yes. In the United States federal system, you are held after conviction while appealing.

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For those asking the judge gave a non-binding recommendation that he go to FCI Petersburg I in Virginia. If the public safety factor is not waived, the judge recommended he go to USP Tuscon in Arizona or USP Colemale II in Florida.

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Is a shame, but what did you expect from a state, and especially the US? There those who have power and those who can not.

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Quote from: S4VV4S on June 07, 2015, 03:30:43 AM

What if he was to go insane after a few years in solitary?
Would he be moved to a psychiatric unit?

If possible, he'll commit suicide after 2 or 3 years. He is never going to be released from prison. So he will be addicted to depression as soon as he starts his prison sentence. It'll be very hard for him to take his own life under the constant surveillance of Supermax, but taking in to account that he is a very intelligent human being, he will find a way to do so. Also, there is a very small chance that he'll successfully conduct a prison break. How many prisoners have escaped from the Supermax, in history?

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Haven't read through the whole thread, but what prison is he going to?

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Quote from: S4VV4S on June 07, 2015, 03:30:43 AM

What if he was to go insane after a few years in solitary?
Would he be moved to a psychiatric unit?

I mean, spending the rest of your life like that, you are bound to go insane.
So what happens then?

He'd probably spend the rest of his days sedated out of his brain and tied to a bed, probably an improvement on solitary confinement but not by much. I'd rather be jacked up with chems than pacing around in a tiny concrete box 24/7 with nothing to do.

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This is very significant for all, what this whole circus.

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What if he was to go insane after a few years in solitary?
Would he be moved to a psychiatric unit?

I mean, spending the rest of your life like that, you are bound to go insane.
So what happens then?

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:31:07 PM

Ulbricht is soft and going to supermax .. he's going to be abused and crumple. I feel bad for him.

If he actually goes to the Supermax, then it will be good for him. He will be locked up for 23 hours in isolation

Isolation is torture for any primate, 23 hours a day of torture will not be good for him. He will slowly go mad. I can imagine few fates worse than that.

If I was in the place of Ross Ulbricht, I'd prefer being in Supermax's complete isolation than going to the hellish and over-crowded prisons such as Angola and San Quentin. Isolation is much better, when compared to getting sodomized and abused by all those rapists and murderers out there. Still... Ross will have to spent some 50 years (the remainder of his life) in complete isolation. It'll be tough.

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Quote from: S4VV4S on June 07, 2015, 02:51:02 AM

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:31:07 PM

Ulbricht is soft and going to supermax .. he's going to be abused and crumple. I feel bad for him.

If he actually goes to the Supermax, then it will be good for him. He will be locked up for 23 hours in isolation

Isolation is torture for any primate, 23 hours a day of torture will not be good for him. He will slowly go mad. I can imagine few fates worse than that.

All you get in a Supermax is a tiny cell where all the furniture is made of unmovable concrete and a polished metal plate embedded into the wall to act as a mirror. The exercise yard is also tiny with very high walls that prevent you glimpsing the sun, and you only use it alone.

Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

Wow. That sounds like hell.
I am guessing the only way to keep sane is to (if allowed) exchange mail with a few people.
Keep in touch with real people, before the imaginary people show up....

Yeah it doesn't sound too nice, no way does Ross deserve to be locked up like an animal. If he was a mass murderer or a terrorist it might be a bit more understandable, far as I can tell he's not a threat to anyone.

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Prisoners are confined to their cells for 22 and a half to 24 hours a day. They will only leave it for an hour’s solitary exercise in a barren concrete yard or for a 15-minute shower on alternate days. Technology and design allow for these two activities to take place with a flick of a switch and without direct staff contact. Food, medication, post and any other provisions will be delivered to them through a hatch in their cell door, with little communication or time-wasting.

The regime of relentless solitary confinement and tight prisoner control in a typical supermax is made possible by prison architects. Without their professional knowledge and careful calculation and assessment of every design detail, it would not have been possible to hold hundreds of prisoners in complete isolation from each other within a single, relatively small, building for prolonged periods.

http://solitarywatch.com/2011/01/19/inside-the-american-supermax/

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