Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - page 26.

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Quote from: spud21 on June 06, 2015, 04:44:47 PM

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:31:07 PM

Ulbricht is soft and going to supermax .. he's going to be abused and crumple. I feel bad for him.

If he actually goes to the Supermax, then it will be good for him. He will be locked up for 23 hours in isolation

Isolation is torture for any primate, 23 hours a day of torture will not be good for him. He will slowly go mad. I can imagine few fates worse than that.

All you get in a Supermax is a tiny cell where all the furniture is made of unmovable concrete and a polished metal plate embedded into the wall to act as a mirror. The exercise yard is also tiny with very high walls that prevent you glimpsing the sun, and you only use it alone.

Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

Wow. That sounds like hell.
I am guessing the only way to keep sane is to (if allowed) exchange mail with a few people.
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In Norway the longest sentence you can get for ANY crime is 18 years. Anders Brevik got 18 years for that kids-camp shooting rampage and he'll be getting out in about 10 years.

This is laughable. Just 10 years in jail (that too in a Norwegian prison with 5-star facilities) for killing 77 people? Not exactly the sort of punishment which deters potential criminals, if you ask me. In the United States, people are sentenced to life in prison without parole, for robbing someone with a pistol for just $100 or $200.

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it's really awful they gave him life in prison. i had sort of expected it -- that they would make an example of him. but it really is incredibly cruel. my thoughts are with him. Undecided

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 06, 2015, 04:33:15 PM

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:31:07 PM

Ulbricht is soft and going to supermax .. he's going to be abused and crumple. I feel bad for him.

If he actually goes to the Supermax, then it will be good for him. He will be locked up for 23 hours in isolation

Isolation is torture for any primate, 23 hours a day of torture will not be good for him. He will slowly go mad. I can imagine few fates worse than that.

Yeah isolation drives people to insanity. I thought the government was supposed to be against cruel and unusual punishment. I guess torture is whatever the government defines it as.

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Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

Without any doubt, it is. Death is frightening only because it's the unknown, but there is nothing worth fearing in the unknown. There never has been. Men used to fear sailing off the edge of the flat Earth, what came of that?

But lifetime of slow, lonely suffering? That is truly worth fearing my friends. That is worth suicide. If you only remember one thing I've ever said on these forums, let it be this: Don't fear the reaper.

hence the deterrent effect of the verdict, and why Ross is other peoples' time (people they will never catch, like the owners of Atlantis, etc)

I would not be surprised to see some of the other markets go out of business soon with 'exit scams,' shutting down and taking all the coins. It's much less risky than actually running a market, many of them will get out while the gettin' is good

Both evolution and black bank recently went out of business with exit scams. I doubt it's a coincidence that they closed around the time of the Ross trial. However, there always seems to be someone waiting to step into their shoes no matter how big the deterrent.

Those drug kingpins in the photos were made examples of, but there was always someone waiting to take over.

In capitalism profit finds a way to be made, just as water always finds a way downhill toward sea level. The makers and enforcers of laws can no more deny this reality than they can deny gravity.

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Quote from: moriartybitcoin on June 06, 2015, 06:32:03 PM

Quote from: Beliathon on June 06, 2015, 05:39:49 PM

Quote from: spud21 on June 06, 2015, 04:44:47 PM

Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

Without any doubt, it is. Death is frightening only because it's the unknown, but there is nothing worth fearing in the unknown. There never has been. Men used to fear sailing off the edge of the flat Earth, what came of that?

But lifetime of slow, lonely suffering? That is truly worth fearing my friends. That is worth suicide. If you only remember one thing I've ever said on these forums, let it be this: Don't fear the reaper.

hence the deterrent effect of the verdict, and why Ross is other peoples' time (people they will never catch, like the owners of Atlantis, etc)

I would not be surprised to see some of the other markets go out of business soon with 'exit scams,' shutting down and taking all the coins. It's much less risky than actually running a market, many of them will get out while the gettin' is good

Both evolution and black bank recently went out of business with exit scams. I doubt it's a coincidence that they closed around the time of the Ross trial. However, there always seems to be someone waiting to step into their shoes no matter how big the deterrent.

Those drug kingpins in the photos were made examples of, but there was always someone waiting to take over.

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Quote from: Beliathon on June 06, 2015, 05:39:49 PM

Quote from: spud21 on June 06, 2015, 04:44:47 PM

Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

Without any doubt, it is. Death is frightening only because it's the unknown, but there is nothing worth fearing in the unknown. There never has been. Men used to fear sailing off the edge of the flat Earth, what came of that?

But lifetime of slow, lonely suffering? That is truly worth fearing my friends. That is worth suicide. If you only remember one thing I've ever said on these forums, let it be this: Don't fear the reaper.

hence the deterrent effect of the verdict, and why Ross is other peoples' time (people they will never catch, like the owners of Atlantis, etc)

I would not be surprised to see some of the other markets go out of business soon with 'exit scams,' shutting down and taking all the coins. It's much less risky than actually running a market, many of them will get out while the gettin' is good

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Quote from: spud21 on June 06, 2015, 04:44:47 PM

Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

Without any doubt, it is. Death is frightening only because it's the unknown, but there is nothing worth fearing in the unknown. There never has been. Men used to fear sailing off the edge of the flat Earth, what came of that?

But lifetime of slow, lonely suffering? That is truly worth fearing my friends. That is worth suicide. If you only remember one thing I've ever said on these forums, let it be this: Don't fear the reaper.

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In Norway the longest sentence you can get for ANY crime is 18 years. Anders Brevik got 18 years for that kids-camp shooting rampage and he'll be getting out in about 10 years.

I think Brevik's sentence was lenient but life should only be reserved for the worst of the worst - mass murderers etc. Ross didn't deserve life. 18 would have been more appropriate.

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:31:07 PM

Ulbricht is soft and going to supermax .. he's going to be abused and crumple. I feel bad for him.

If he actually goes to the Supermax, then it will be good for him. He will be locked up for 23 hours in isolation

Isolation is torture for any primate, 23 hours a day of torture will not be good for him. He will slowly go mad. I can imagine few fates worse than that.

All you get in a Supermax is a tiny cell where all the furniture is made of unmovable concrete and a polished metal plate embedded into the wall to act as a mirror. The exercise yard is also tiny with very high walls that prevent you glimpsing the sun, and you only use it alone.

Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:31:07 PM

Ulbricht is soft and going to supermax .. he's going to be abused and crumple. I feel bad for him.

If he actually goes to the Supermax, then it will be good for him. He will be locked up for 23 hours in isolation

Isolation is torture for any primate, 23 hours a day of torture will not be good for him. He will slowly go mad. I can imagine few fates worse than that.

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Quote from: zemon on June 06, 2015, 02:27:34 PM

He should of moved to the UK, I am sure he would have got five years but been out in three.

A trial is still pending for some assassinations he was arranging and apparently two of the FBI agents are being charged for corruption and money laundering.

I think the EU might have come up with a rule that no European citizen can be jailed forever. They probably allow extremely long sentences but draw the line at forever.

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He should of moved to the UK, I am sure he would have got five years but been out in three.

A trial is still pending for some assassinations he was arranging and apparently two of the FBI agents are being charged for corruption and money laundering.

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Ulbricht is no more of a villain than he is a hero. It's a sad story right now. His legal team pigeonholed him by claiming ownership of SR, but not ownership of the server. His country defrauded him of the very freedoms it defends by a process that doesn't align with its Constitution. It's sad.

Full opinion here: https://coinslists.info/index.php/2015/05/30/when-the-punishment-doesnt-fit-the-crime/

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Quote from: Sefton on June 06, 2015, 04:08:05 AM

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I'm surprised he didn't just leave the USA and operate his business from somwhere outside the reach of US cops, like Russia. Then he would be totally safe

He obviously wasn't cut out to be a drug kingpin. He made some very silly mistakes but I agree he shouldn't have been residing within the US. He might still be free now had he not.

He's not your typical drug kingpin. When you see a photo list of drug kingpins that includes Ross it kind of looks silly. Like a photo of Mickey Mouse next to Jeffery Dalhmer.

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:31:07 PM

Ulbricht is soft and going to supermax .. he's going to be abused and crumple. I feel bad for him.

If he actually goes to the Supermax, then it will be good for him. He will be locked up for 23 hours in isolation, and will be allowed only 1 hour in the yard every day with very strict supervision. No one is going to sodomize him or beat him up. On the other hand, if he goes to San Quentin or Angola (LA), no one can predict what'll happen to him.

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:30:10 PM

I'm surprised he didn't just leave the USA and operate his business from somwhere outside the reach of US cops, like Russia. Then he would be totally safe

He obviously wasn't cut out to be a drug kingpin. He made some very silly mistakes but I agree he shouldn't have been residing within the US. He might still be free now had he not.

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Quote from: blablaace on June 05, 2015, 06:30:10 PM

I'm surprised he didn't just leave the USA and operate his business from somwhere outside the reach of US cops, like Russia. Then he would be totally safe

yeah at the very least he should should have moved to country with no extradition treaty with the US. wouldn't have guaranteed his safety but would have at least given him more time to get his shit together if something did go wrong. can't be happy with life in a supermax prison, wonder if he's in solitary?

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