Topic: SilkRoad domain Seized? - page 14. (Read 46634 times)
Of course drug dealers don't want drugs legalized. DPR claimed he wasn't just a simple dealer but rather some ideological crusader for a better tomorrow (by which he meant: anarcho-capitalism, his idea of utopia). He wasn't only selling drugs remember, but also malware, forged documents, he experimented with selling weaponry, etc ...
Why is btc crashing? theres thousands of BTC that are removed from the market. also, just an fyi, I'd just buy litecoins for the time being, i mean, atlantis is still up
Having read all of the quotes by him in the Forbes article (linked in this thread), I have to say he sounds like an upstanding chap (were it not for the fact he ordered a hit).
We'll see how much of an upstanding chap he is if he tries to make a deal with the prosecution by giving up associates. Let's see if his ideals really mean something to him.
Worth reading if you've not already done so:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/04/29/collected-quotations-of-the-dread-pirate-roberts-founder-of-the-drug-site-silk-road-and-radical-libertarian
We'll see how much of an upstanding chap he is if he tries to make a deal with the prosecution by giving up associates. Let's see if his ideals really mean something to him.
Worth reading if you've not already done so:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/04/29/collected-quotations-of-the-dread-pirate-roberts-founder-of-the-drug-site-silk-road-and-radical-libertarian
Well this has me sweating a bit... What a bummer!
Crazy shit:
Wow I hate to say this.. but the owner of silkroad is an idiot..
And a murderer. We don't need murderers paying for "clean" or "un-clean" hits in BTC. What a piece of shit.
As many stated here, the fact he was caught is a good thing.
I second and third and whatever else this comment. If this is true, his is a piece of shit and he will deserve whatever they throw at him. He gives humans in general a bad name. I so hope this is not true, people are not "things" you "take care of"
Might not have been as bad I guess if he didn't have such a unique name.
The "hit" was an obvious scam the moment you read about it. Whoever hacked his site knew he could extract cash from Ulbricht no matter what, but it's much easier to make him believe he's a winner than a loser.
The guy who was supposedly taken out with a wife and three kids generated no homicide or missing person reports. There is no record they even existed.
The fact that DPR would have done this should not surprise anyone. The moment he did those interviews with Forbes it became clear he was a dangerous lunatic. This is a guy who did not want drugs to be legalized because it would have made his website less relevant. You know, the policy that has turned Mexico into a warzone, he wanted that to continue because otherwise he feared people would decide they didn't want to overthrow their governments after all. The whole hippie peace and love thing was exposed as crap the moment he made those remarks.
The guy who was supposedly taken out with a wife and three kids generated no homicide or missing person reports. There is no record they even existed.
The fact that DPR would have done this should not surprise anyone. The moment he did those interviews with Forbes it became clear he was a dangerous lunatic. This is a guy who did not want drugs to be legalized because it would have made his website less relevant. You know, the policy that has turned Mexico into a warzone, he wanted that to continue because otherwise he feared people would decide they didn't want to overthrow their governments after all. The whole hippie peace and love thing was exposed as crap the moment he made those remarks.
However, the court documents note that Canadian law enforcers have said there was no record of a homicide taking place in White Rock, British Columbia at the time.
Do you really think a person on the silk road just went up and shot someone. They probably used a poison method.
Death by poison would be considered a homicide as well, Sherlock..
Not if they aren't looking for it. Look up Robert "Iceman" Kuklinski, many of the people he killed were never linked due to the fact he used poison and it looked like a heart attack.
It is well known photos cannot be edited and there is no such thing as makeup or special effects
And again... for not too much $$$, you could get someone to stage paint a convincing headshot wound and snap a photo..
Crazy shit:
Wow I hate to say this.. but the owner of silkroad is an idiot..
And a murderer. We don't need murderers paying for "clean" or "un-clean" hits in BTC. What a piece of shit.
As many stated here, the fact he was caught is a good thing.
I second and third and whatever else this comment. If this is true, his is a piece of shit and he will deserve whatever they throw at him. He gives humans in general a bad name. I so hope this is not true, people are not "things" you "take care of"
pretty obvious TOR has a vulnerability that is being actively exploited ...
A prior comment of mine is relevant here:
So I just looked into this, not thoroughly so someone please correct me where wrong, but have the following assessment.
The FBI conducted a successful operation against a big person in the Tor world named Eric Eoin Marques who runs a company called Host Ultra Limited. They are trying to extradite Eric to the US to face charges. I'm guessing Eric either distributed directly, or hosted sites dealing in child pornography. Apparently he was conducting business as a Tor Hidden Service.
Now, Tor Hidden Services is different than using Tor normally. Tor Hidden Services is what allows Silk Road to operate because the server itself can gain anonymity while still handling incoming client requests.
What is not readily apparent (to me) is how the FBI found Eric's servers, and what was done with them. It could be that his servers were found with investigative methods outside Tor. However, there does appear to be a way to de-anonymize servers using Hidden Services revealed in the following paper at a security symposium in May 2013:
Trawling for Tor Hidden Services: Detection, Measurement, Deanonymization
I only read the first couple pages but have no reason to doubt the claims. Whether or not the FBI used similar exploits for this case isn't apparent, but I'd say Silk Road looks vulnerable unless and until there is a patch or re-work of the Hidden Services protocol.
The FBI conducted a successful operation against a big person in the Tor world named Eric Eoin Marques who runs a company called Host Ultra Limited. They are trying to extradite Eric to the US to face charges. I'm guessing Eric either distributed directly, or hosted sites dealing in child pornography. Apparently he was conducting business as a Tor Hidden Service.
Now, Tor Hidden Services is different than using Tor normally. Tor Hidden Services is what allows Silk Road to operate because the server itself can gain anonymity while still handling incoming client requests.
What is not readily apparent (to me) is how the FBI found Eric's servers, and what was done with them. It could be that his servers were found with investigative methods outside Tor. However, there does appear to be a way to de-anonymize servers using Hidden Services revealed in the following paper at a security symposium in May 2013:
Trawling for Tor Hidden Services: Detection, Measurement, Deanonymization
I only read the first couple pages but have no reason to doubt the claims. Whether or not the FBI used similar exploits for this case isn't apparent, but I'd say Silk Road looks vulnerable unless and until there is a patch or re-work of the Hidden Services protocol.
However, the court documents note that Canadian law enforcers have said there was no record of a homicide taking place in White Rock, British Columbia at the time.
Do you really think a person on the silk road just went up and shot someone. They probably used a poison method.
Death by poison would be considered a homicide as well, Sherlock..
Not if they aren't looking for it. Look up Robert "Iceman" Kuklinski, many of the people he killed were never linked due to the fact he used poison and it looked like a heart attack.
It is well known photos cannot be edited and there is no such thing as makeup or special effects
And again... for not too much $$$, you could get someone to stage paint a convincing headshot wound and snap a photo..
Hell, they even confiscated his bitcoins. Why weren't the majority of them in a brain wallet? And still living in the USA? He should have been living incognito in Russia or SE Asia by now.
How do you know they got all of his bitcoins?
Now living in the USA... Yeah that was incredibly stupid. It was only a matter of time...
It's naive to believe that the way they say they found him is the way they actually found him.
There are a lot of naive people in Bitcoin. I could list examples of scams but we all know them already.
Ugh. Posting your email on the forums, advertising SR...paying for a hit on someone.. come on man.
Yes... paying for a hit on someone
, his image has gone from Entrepreneur Genius to Clever Thug. Hell, they even confiscated his bitcoins. Why weren't the majority of them in a brain wallet? And still living in the USA? He should have been living incognito in Russia or SE Asia by now. However, the court documents note that Canadian law enforcers have said there was no record of a homicide taking place in White Rock, British Columbia at the time.
Do you really think a person on the silk road just went up and shot someone. They probably used a poison method.
Death by poison would be considered a homicide as well, Sherlock..
Not if they aren't looking for it. Look up Robert "Iceman" Kuklinski, many of the people he killed were never linked due to the fact he used poison and it looked like a heart attack.
It is well known photos cannot be edited and there is no such thing as makeup or special effects
It's naive to believe that the way they say they found him is the way they actually found him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_mass_surveillance_disclosures
There could be a CI involved... the NSA could have sifted through emails... there could be a vulnerability of TOR that the NSA would not like to make public... There is just no reason at all to believe what it says in the indictment is the actual way they identified him. We already know that they make a mockery of the "justice system" by engaging in what they call "parallel construction".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_mass_surveillance_disclosures
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The Special Operations Division (SOD) of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration advises DEA agents to practice parallel construction when creating criminal cases against Americans that are actually based on NSA warrantless surveillance.[3]
There could be a CI involved... the NSA could have sifted through emails... there could be a vulnerability of TOR that the NSA would not like to make public... There is just no reason at all to believe what it says in the indictment is the actual way they identified him. We already know that they make a mockery of the "justice system" by engaging in what they call "parallel construction".
IMHO, it was a good thing for bitcoin that it was taken down. It made people think that bitcoin was a currency used only for illegal purposes. Of course, people are going to hate this post.
However, the court documents note that Canadian law enforcers have said there was no record of a homicide taking place in White Rock, British Columbia at the time.
Do you really think a person on the silk road just went up and shot someone. They probably used a poison method.
Death by poison would be considered a homicide as well, Sherlock..
Not if they aren't looking for it. Look up Robert "Iceman" Kuklinski, many of the people he killed were never linked due to the fact he used poison and it looked like a heart attack.
It is well known photos cannot be edited and there is no such thing as makeup or special effects
This could hurt Bitcoins...
not much happening in turns of exchange rateIt JUST happened.....I see btc going down a bit, but rebounding. Might be a nice time to buy
My thoughts exactly.
I was going to dump a hell of a lot of bitcoins but decided against it given the big money is clearly on the bid again. Still, I dumped a few...
However, the court documents note that Canadian law enforcers have said there was no record of a homicide taking place in White Rock, British Columbia at the time.
Do you really think a person on the silk road just went up and shot someone. They probably used a poison method.
Death by poison would be considered a homicide as well, Sherlock..
Not if they aren't looking for it. Look up Robert "Iceman" Kuklinski, many of the people he killed were never linked due to the fact he used poison and it looked like a heart attack.
However, the court documents note that Canadian law enforcers have said there was no record of a homicide taking place in White Rock, British Columbia at the time.
Do you really think a person on the silk road just went up and shot someone. They probably used a poison method.
Death by poison would be considered a homicide as well, Sherlock..
Not if they aren't looking for it. Look up Robert "Iceman" Kuklinski, many of the people he killed were never linked due to the fact he used poison and it looked like a heart attack.
The messages allegedly gave the blackmailer's "details".
And yeah I agree that if it wasn't a government, the blackmailer was definitely the "contract killer". Probably pissing himself laughing until he hears about this.
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