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Topic: SilkRoad domain Seized? - page 12. (Read 46632 times)

hero member
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October 02, 2013, 03:28:39 PM
By the way - I'm amazed at how many people are surprised that a drug dealer with extreme anarcho-capitalist tendencies turned out to be not a swell guy! Imagine that!
This comment reveals a lot more about your character than DPR's.

+1

Lots of disappointments today.

The Silk Road is gone.

DPR apparently was a murderer.

Mike Hearn is an authoritarian asshole.

Fuck this shit.
legendary
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October 02, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
wow.. he's against hitmen?  What a hypocrite piece of shit..

Indeed.

That's assuming the government's story is on the up and up, an assumption that can no longer be made from the outset.

No I was agreeing with calling those that are against using the hitman a hypocrite. I would if someone blackmailed me and I thought I would get away with it. You guys would not? Seriously Huh

The blackmail was about nothing more than MONEY.  Once you hire a hitman, it's about someone's LIFE, and is considered a whole new level.  It's hard not to sympathize with a man with 3 kids, do you think they deserve to see their daddy murdered just because he tried to blackmail someone?

That is not DPR's responsibility but that blackmailing scumbag's.

I strongly disagree, someone with a minimum sense of humanity would prefer to shut down its business before killing someone... The fact DPR himself told to the hitman "wife + 3 kids" when describing his "target" is way beyond evil. My stomach hurts and my mind spins just to think about it.

Filthy money and the awful things that people is capable to do for it...
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October 02, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
wow.. he's against hitmen?  What a hypocrite piece of shit..

Indeed.

That's assuming the government's story is on the up and up, an assumption that can no longer be made from the outset.

No I was agreeing with calling those that are against using the hitman a hypocrite. I would if someone blackmailed me and I thought I would get away with it. You guys would not? Seriously Huh

The blackmail was about nothing more than MONEY.  Once you hire a hitman, it's about someone's LIFE, and is considered a whole new level.  It's hard not to sympathize with a man with 3 kids, do you think they deserve to see their daddy murdered just because he tried to blackmail someone?

That is not DPR's responsibility but that blackmailing scumbag's.

I maybe agreeing, but still theres alot of factors out there that lead to his arrest and he should of laid low and more anonymous when he promised to stay like that.
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October 02, 2013, 03:22:56 PM
wow.. he's against hitmen?  What a hypocrite piece of shit..

Indeed.

That's assuming the government's story is on the up and up, an assumption that can no longer be made from the outset.

No I was agreeing with calling those that are against using the hitman a hypocrite. I would if someone blackmailed me and I thought I would get away with it. You guys would not? Seriously Huh

The blackmail was about nothing more than MONEY.  Once you hire a hitman, it's about someone's LIFE, and is considered a whole new level.  It's hard not to sympathize with a man with 3 kids, do you think they deserve to see their daddy murdered just because he tried to blackmail someone?

blackmail = extortion = felony.  hitman = felony, murder = felony, money laundering at this level= felony, drug trafficking medium = felony; and I'd like to know more about the "victim" and the "hitman".   Who was the victim with 3 kids?  How do we know he had 3 kids?  Who was the hitman?  Who is the "hitman"?
legendary
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October 02, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
wow.. he's against hitmen?  What a hypocrite piece of shit..
Indeed.
That's assuming the government's story is on the up and up, an assumption that can no longer be made from the outset.
No I was agreeing with calling those that are against using the hitman a hypocrite. I would if someone blackmailed me and I thought I would get away with it. You guys would not? Seriously Huh
The blackmail was about nothing more than MONEY.  Once you hire a hitman, it's about someone's LIFE, and is considered a whole new level.  It's hard not to sympathize with a man with 3 kids, do you think they deserve to see their daddy murdered just because he tried to blackmail someone?

I think it's too early to speculate but a lot more was at stake. If the blackmailer had released compromising information about SR users this could result in a lot more broken families.
It seems to me that as a libertarian, DPR was acting within the non-agression principle.
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October 02, 2013, 03:16:58 PM
1) He ordered a hitman to kill a blackmailer, threatning him for BTC everyones user and address,
 consqequences if blackmail succeeded.
 1) Tor will be vulnerable by this jackass
 2) Bitcoin will be flactuated
 3) SR will be down
 4) Several thousands of users will be at risk
 5) He can tell the FBI how to use Tor and its vulnerabilites if he knew.
I think it was a good thing, one guy dead, over thousands of peoples info at risk and their lives ruined, plus he mad millions of this site and put some hard work into it, you think he was going to let us down?

2) DPR put aaall his BTC into one wallet, which was a mistake, he should of put into multiple wallets little by little.

3) He revealed his true name in some forums and his email address

4) Ordered some fake id's to possibly move to state to state under alliases, but intercepted by the feds, possible investigation was probaly ongoing after the few forums mistakes.

5) He used a nearby cafe wifi to run his servers by his house.


Now tell me how many mistakes he did to fuck up. Overall he is a good kid, full of education, majored in studies, college, chemical engenerring, blah blah blah. But he doesnt seem the type of guy to do this. Overall he saved me 2 years ago, whn SR first opened and I had a herniated disk in my spine, the vicodin pills made my heart rate drop, side ffects of chills, fainting, nausea. hated that, I tried marijuana, and then on that was my medicine, but my state didnt allow medical use of it, and resorted to silk road. It was until then I dint need it anymore since my state passed the medical marijuana bill, but I say thank you to him for saving my life. R.I.P. SR. Sad Embarrassed
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 03:16:33 PM
FBI seized Silk Road's bitcoins and liquified them instantly. Panic sell by the Feds. Lovely.  Cool

Get rid of the evidence even before the trial starts?  I think not.

The money made from selling the bitcoins would still be considered evidence, as well as the blockchain itself..
legendary
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October 02, 2013, 03:15:11 PM
FBI seized Silk Road's bitcoins and liquified them instantly. Panic sell by the Feds. Lovely.  Cool

Get rid of the evidence even before the trial starts?  I think not.
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
FBI seized Silk Road's bitcoins and liquified them instantly. Panic sell by the Feds. Lovely.  Cool

They must have used bitstamp.. it sold a lot harder than gox
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October 02, 2013, 03:13:04 PM
FBI seized Silk Road's bitcoins and liquified them instantly. Panic sell by the Feds. Lovely.  Cool
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 03:12:19 PM
wow.. he's against hitmen?  What a hypocrite piece of shit..

Indeed.

That's assuming the government's story is on the up and up, an assumption that can no longer be made from the outset.

No I was agreeing with calling those that are against using the hitman a hypocrite. I would if someone blackmailed me and I thought I would get away with it. You guys would not? Seriously Huh

The blackmail was about nothing more than MONEY.  Once you hire a hitman, it's about someone's LIFE, and is considered a whole new level.  It's hard not to sympathize with a man with 3 kids, do you think they deserve to see their daddy murdered just because he tried to blackmail someone?
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 03:11:07 PM
I would if someone blackmailed me and I thought I would get away with it. You guys would not? Seriously Huh

I think the lesson here is to avoid being blackmailable.
legendary
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October 02, 2013, 03:10:39 PM
WTF! This must have happened sometime when I was driving through Chattanooga, TN.
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October 02, 2013, 03:10:12 PM
Of course drug dealers don't want drugs legalized. DPR claimed he wasn't just a simple dealer but rather some ideological crusader for a better tomorrow (by which he meant: anarcho-capitalism, his idea of utopia). He wasn't only selling drugs remember, but also malware, forged documents, he experimented with selling weaponry, etc ...

Source?

Source not needed.  One only had to visit SR to see this.

I don't think DPR was the one selling all of that. All of that was available on his marketplace. A little different, no?

Sure, and the South American cartels are simply 'facilitating' the movement of narcotics between growers and end users by the same, ultimately irrelevant, logic.

What DPR was actually doing was taking money from drug buyers, and then drop-shipping the drugs using his network of suppliers as the supplier-shippers. He'd then pay the supplier-shipper for their service once he confirmed his clients (SilkRoad users) got the narcotics they had paid SilkRoad for.



legendary
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October 02, 2013, 03:10:03 PM
So, I wonder what Barry Silbert thinks about this news. Will it stop his SecondMarket project?

I bet they knew it was coming, and organized for a buy Smiley

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what happened. He wanted this right before convincing a bunch of investors to dump boatloads of cash into Bitcoin.
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
Why would they invent such a thing?

Government agents lie all the time, many times to protect operational security. Government and LE has been the source of so many lies, disinformation and untruths that it's prudent to be skeptical of any claims made in the beginning of a bust.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
October 02, 2013, 03:07:56 PM
How did they manage to seize the bitcoins?  Cool
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 03:07:11 PM
So, I wonder what Barry Silbert thinks about this news. Will it stop his SecondMarket project?

I bet they knew it was coming, and organized for a buy Smiley
sr. member
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October 02, 2013, 03:06:36 PM
Geez, I missed all the panic selling again because working?

Lame.
legendary
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October 02, 2013, 03:06:16 PM
That's assuming the government's story is on the up and up, an assumption that can no longer be made from the outset.

Why would they invent such a thing? They have plenty of evidence to put him away for narcotics anyway. Plus, this guy doesn't live in Yemen, he isn't going to get drone striked. He lives in San Francisco and will go before a judge. If his defence says, "we'd like to see the evidence of this alleged conversation" and the prosecution say, "uhhh well your honour, we sort of made that whole thing up" then the case collapses and the guy walks.

They aren't going to risk their entire case to invent evidence they don't need.

DPR was a guy who talked a good talk, and suckered a lot of people into believing he was some kind of saintly martyr. In fact he was the kind of guy who orders assassinations. That isn't so unbelievable if you read the rest of what he wrote.
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