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Quote from: GigaBit on February 28, 2023, 01:51:47 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on February 28, 2023, 01:15:55 AM

Honestly I always felt like lower leagues experience huge sports betting fixes. Like I mean who would care when someone fix matches in 2nd-3rd league of Türkiye or Greece. Probably nearly noone. Saddening part is that many football (or sports) lovers start to dislike watching it. It kills many other legit revenues. It kills soul of sports. I wish there could be some sort of defence mechanism but its humanly thing so its pretty much impossible to avoid.

There are often allegations of match-fixing within the sport, especially in the minor leagues. I didn't pay heed to such news but learned to understand when i fell victim to it. The picture of a fixing match is very easy to imagine. There is no discussion about them or it is not possible to discuss them because there is no evidence. It is not only in the Football tournament. This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.

Not something new and its been known through ages if we do speak about these kind of rigging games and other things which is correlated to it.It is true that this do usually happens on smaller leagues which
there were no people that much watching for it to be not really that much obvious or been known to be a fixed ones.It is really that sure that someone is really making out arrangement about
these games and making money on having a fixed match.It is really hard to determine which one though because from those players until to those who had set out those who are on top
are really that careful on making it obvious.Its not something new anymore.

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That is pretty unfortunate that such fraudulent activities occur in sports, and it is not limited to Brazil alone. These incidents attract attention due to a large amount of money involved. Though these things undermine the integrity of the game, those taking bribes or doing fraud don't really care.

Sports betting can be a legitimate way to earn money, but it should be done ethically and responsibly. It is disheartening to hear about fraudulent activities such as those in such a high-level competition. It doesn't set a good example for the world or the lovers of the game from around the globe that pay money to go watch those players in the stadiums only to come to know that they took money to sell the integrity of the game.

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 28, 2023, 02:17:44 AM

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This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.

Yes, you are right, there is no sport that is immune from the practice of fix matches and that often happens in small tournaments that are not given much news, fix matches also occur in tennis but dirty practices like that still happen Two French tennis players banned for life for match fixing offences
but once there was a big league that also did this practice, it was a detrimental thing A decade after Italy's match-fixing scandal, Serie A is worse than it was before
It must be a very annoying thing if we choose a bet that turns out to be involved in a fixed match

Fix matches are really popular and widely done in small or even big games. Although it's much known and really rampant with small games because there's little to no background checking done. Additionally, some who know it won't even bother to talk to escalate the cheating to the authorities so it's not fully eliminated even though there are some organizers for the betting or game itself.

It's hard to wipe out fixed matches because there are still people who condone and patronize such act because it offers easy money for them. It will now just depend on what principles and beliefs you uphold. If you will let your moral compass guide you or let your greediness take over.

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Quote from: GigaBit on February 28, 2023, 01:51:47 AM

This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.

Yes, you are right, there is no sport that is immune from the practice of fix matches and that often happens in small tournaments that are not given much news, fix matches also occur in tennis but dirty practices like that still happen Two French tennis players banned for life for match fixing offences
but once there was a big league that also did this practice, it was a detrimental thing A decade after Italy's match-fixing scandal, Serie A is worse than it was before
It must be a very annoying thing if we choose a bet that turns out to be involved in a fixed match

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on February 28, 2023, 01:15:55 AM

Honestly I always felt like lower leagues experience huge sports betting fixes. Like I mean who would care when someone fix matches in 2nd-3rd league of Türkiye or Greece. Probably nearly noone. Saddening part is that many football (or sports) lovers start to dislike watching it. It kills many other legit revenues. It kills soul of sports. I wish there could be some sort of defence mechanism but its humanly thing so its pretty much impossible to avoid.

There are often allegations of match-fixing within the sport, especially in the minor leagues. I didn't pay heed to such news but learned to understand when i fell victim to it. The picture of a fixing match is very easy to imagine. There is no discussion about them or it is not possible to discuss them because there is no evidence. It is not only in the Football tournament. This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.

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How common do you think this kind of fraud is on European countries, for example?
I would personally never think that this could be possible in Germany or the United Kingdom, however, I am not from there.

Sometimes we underestimate the reach of these problems around the world and the power of criminal organizations. So people believe they are safe betting in the Bundeslisga, but perhaps they are not. Huh

I was lucky to find an exact answer to your question. It is said that there are so many match-fixers in Europe and that's because there are so many lower leagues there but maybe it can also happen to other countries who have a huge number of lower leagues.

We never underestimate these kinds of problem because we know how serious it is as it can damage the reputation of the sport, club, league, and country. This is also annoying if you are too confident about the bets that you placed in a sports betting site but then you lose it because of a fixed match but even without these types of frauds, losing can still be inevitable sometimes because we are simply unlucky.

Match fixing is a common phenomenon in every part of the world. But I can definitely say that this type of match fixing is most common in minor leagues. So now if I hear any news about match fixing then I don't give much importance. Because now some games basically run for fixing. When sports are a means of business, many think of it as such way. But if there is no hope to get rid of this kind of scandal then people will not have much interest in the game. But for gamblers it will not have much effect.

Honestly I always felt like lower leagues experience huge sports betting fixes. Like I mean who would care when someone fix matches in 2nd-3rd league of Türkiye or Greece. Probably nearly noone. Saddening part is that many football (or sports) lovers start to dislike watching it. It kills many other legit revenues. It kills soul of sports. I wish there could be some sort of defence mechanism but its humanly thing so its pretty much impossible to avoid.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 15, 2023, 09:12:23 PM

If it's possible for this kind of competition for fraud to occur, how much more to much smaller competitions. There are local and regional competitions everywhere. Some games must be rigged. Some detected, some not.

Here, there was also a national basketball competition where a team was obviously throwing the game. It was Manny Pacquiao himself who filed the case against those who were involved in the fixing.

I also have a neighbor who was a pro DOTA II player. He and his team were involved in match fixing. They were banned by Valve itself.

Fraud is also rampant in sports.

it is the order of the day, rampant in almost everything we get ourselves involved in as far as the internet and money is concerned though.
Banning your neighbor is a good punishment don't you think so??

Match fixing shouldn't be encouraged.

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Quote from: Fortify on February 27, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.

And you are most likely correct about your guess, the ones closer to the fraud are the ones which have to face the consequences, while the masterminds behind them usually get away with their crimes.

I'm sure this is the case. Ordinary players cannot set the terms. They cannot dictate on what will happen. I even think that many of the players are obliged to make the agreement happen even if they disagree with it or they're only given a small amount while risking their whole career. They are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Of course they cannot just reject the order of the bosses as they are under his payroll. But they cannot also easily accept it because they know it's illegal and are risking their livelihood and reputation.

The people who work behind the bouts arrange everything so that players, judges and others can do whatever they want.
Maybe these people have received bribes not to tell anyone or to keep this secret even though those involved can get prison sentences if government officials find out.
But those involved people are nowhere to be found because the organization behind it is so good at covering its tracks.
Money can indeed make someone change drastically, especially if it is big money and without tiring work.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on February 27, 2023, 07:58:01 PM

Quote from: Fortify on February 27, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.

And you are most likely correct about your guess, the ones closer to the fraud are the ones which have to face the consequences, while the masterminds behind them usually get away with their crimes.

I'm sure this is the case. Ordinary players cannot set the terms. They cannot dictate on what will happen. I even think that many of the players are obliged to make the agreement happen even if they disagree with it or they're only given a small amount while risking their whole career. They are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Of course they cannot just reject the order of the bosses as they are under his payroll. But they cannot also easily accept it because they know it's illegal and are risking their livelihood and reputation.

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Quote from: Fortify on February 27, 2023, 03:48:24 PM

I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.

And you are most likely correct about your guess, the ones closer to the fraud are the ones which have to face the consequences, while the masterminds behind them usually get away with their crimes.

And while it is possible they could be abusing bookmakers with the manipulation of those results, I think this is most likely an illegal gambling ring which accepts sport bets without having the license to do it, and they manipulate the results to beat their clients.

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Quote from: molsewid on February 27, 2023, 12:13:42 PM

I agree, we cannot blame the organizers only because teams and players in both teams should know this thing. It is so frustrating that there are still people who are doing this for the sake of money or fame the committee should not tolerate this kind of thing and they should hardly implement the law. We need to exercise integrity and transparency in sports so that it would be fair for all people for players, fans and those who are betting with their fav team.

There are even worst that happens with these games. Not just from these players but they've been urged to do something else that would make them go against their own wills.

There's such more on these spaces and sports that we don't know and even deeper when it's not the top tier teams that we get to know. I agree that their participation should also be blamed because if it's not for them, no fraud will be made since they're the ones playing and on the ground.

They should choose what's best for them and I guess they think at these times, money and being bought is what's best for them at the moment.

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Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 27, 2023, 05:56:56 AM

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

I agree, we cannot blame the organizers only because teams and players in both teams should know this thing. It is so frustrating that there are still people who are doing this for the sake of money or fame the committee should not tolerate this kind of thing and they should hardly implement the law. We need to exercise integrity and transparency in sports so that it would be fair for all people for players, fans and those who are betting with their fav team.

I think this is what it should be done, anyone that is part of a sport which accepts bribes to manipulate the results must be expelled of participating in any professional sport for life, as in my view this is way worse than consuming steroids, those consuming steroids are looking to improve their performance and this gives them an unfair advantage, but those that accept bribes go against the spirit of the competition itself and they must not be allowed to be part of any professional sport as they make the fans incredibly disappointed about it.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 27, 2023, 05:56:56 AM

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

I agree, we cannot blame the organizers only because teams and players in both teams should know this thing. It is so frustrating that there are still people who are doing this for the sake of money or fame the committee should not tolerate this kind of thing and they should hardly implement the law. We need to exercise integrity and transparency in sports so that it would be fair for all people for players, fans and those who are betting with their fav team.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on February 22, 2023, 06:24:19 PM

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Frauds and rigged games could really happen but just like on what most people been saying that it do happen mostly on smaller leagues.

yes indeed such scams are usually more common in local leagues which are less conspicuous when lots of people are betting.
but frauds as the OP mentioned can also happen in major leagues which we don't know about. because there used to be cheating or fraud like that when the dealer bribed players to lose matches without scoring goals.
so, incidents like this can be a lesson for us to be careful when placing bets. because what seems to win doesn't necessarily win, sometimes it's the opposite.

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

Cheating or fraud in the game is now a common image, its aptitude is increased in some places drastically. Again, it can be very little in some places. We have heard of many countries where there is a lot of fraud but few countries are still good. If there is any hidden fraud, it is relatively less and it is natural that when the number of frauds increases, the number of good ones decreases. This kind of trend is more active especially in third world countries.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on February 22, 2023, 06:24:19 PM

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Frauds and rigged games could really happen but just like on what most people been saying that it do happen mostly on smaller leagues.

yes indeed such scams are usually more common in local leagues which are less conspicuous when lots of people are betting.
but frauds as the OP mentioned can also happen in major leagues which we don't know about. because there used to be cheating or fraud like that when the dealer bribed players to lose matches without scoring goals.
so, incidents like this can be a lesson for us to be careful when placing bets. because what seems to win doesn't necessarily win, sometimes it's the opposite.

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

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Fraud may happen in second leagues, it is always better to think about why big bookmakers don't open such matches or put lowest limits for betting. Gamblers know something shady may happen in such situations, it is always better be careful and not betting over the amount you can afford to lose. Hopefully regulations will handle this case as expected.

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Quote from: Bushdark on February 24, 2023, 02:56:16 PM

Gambling is supposed to be of all honesty but with the way things are going, there had been bad eggs that had been making things worse for gamblers manipulating the system to the extent that gamblers are not making up to the kind of money they supposed to make. Gambling is fun when dishonesty is added to it, it becomes something worse that everyone will want to use greed to win.
This kind of things do happens most in street gambling where gamblers don't mind using cheating system to make sure that they make winnings and sometimes when it is discovered, it do lead to fight that can lead to bloodshed.

There’s always someone who are going to try to corrupt the system and take advantage of this and fraud is really happening in sports betting which is more easy for them to manipulate especially if they have the money. There’s no way to control this because they are working behind the scene and I’m sure other staffs of the team are also involve into this one. Gambling is just for fun to many while gambling is a best way to make money to others, you’re lucky if you are able to ride with this fraud and make profit as well.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 25, 2023, 06:59:49 PM

Quote from: Bushdark on February 24, 2023, 02:56:16 PM

Gambling is supposed to be of all honesty but with the way things are going, there had been bad eggs that had been making things worse for gamblers manipulating the system to the extent that gamblers are not making up to the kind of money they supposed to make. Gambling is fun when dishonesty is added to it, it becomes something worse that everyone will want to use greed to win.
This kind of things do happens most in street gambling where gamblers don't mind using cheating system to make sure that they make winnings and sometimes when it is discovered, it do lead to fight that can lead to bloodshed.

Gambling isn't supposed to be honest, it just needs to be fair. But with the way things are going, fairness isn't really upheld and things like these happen because people are not held to a certain standard. Well, what do you expect? So long as an industry rakes in the big bucks, it will slowly lose its morality and sense of fairness. These people know from the get go that if they do certain things, they'll get the huge payout. It's certainly what's happening right now and I doubt it will change any sooner.

people who are into this kind of game, don't know the word morality anymore. as long as their pockets are full, that's more than enough for them to commit this kind of act. it is gambling, so yes, don't expect everyone to be honest especially if they have the chance to manipulate the results of the game. i also don't think it will stop. this will just be a cycle so long there are athletes who can be bribe and high rollers who are capable of bribing these athletes.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 25, 2023, 06:58:41 PM

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Game fixing in small leagues is very rampant not specifically in one country, we have a share of that in our country
sometimes audiences can trace it, or feel that there's fixing going on while the game is being held these small leaguers are not good at hiding game fixing and the audiences are good at tracing or looking at game fixing, but if the games are very heated and both teams are very determined to win and even involves a brawl people will think that the game is real and may even think that players and managers are betting for their team which is good, than betting on their opponent and fixing the match.

Can't really be avoided especially in small leagues.

But still, there are lots of people who are being patronized by game fixing and I don't understand why in some countries, it's like there's an easy access to game fixing or related schemes.

This something can't be stopped that's why on some areas, they have to lived with it.

It can be, if you are aware already that there is one that is going to happen but if you know if which team will win then you will just ride the wave. If you are clueless and has a lot of doubt then it will be better to stay away from smaller leagues when it comes to sports betting. There is no surprise on why a lot of people love game fixing, that is of course it's a way to gain an easy money.

Some countries are just full of corruptions and this includes game fixing on some sports and even on some other events or contests but I think there is no betting involved there. It's just the candidates themselves are the ones who are going to benefit the most.

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