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February 18, 2023, 02:58:07 AM
#91
This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.
Well, it is just what it is, like I said in my earlier comment, match fixing as well as rigging is not something that is peculiar to brazil alone, this is something that is happening in every country and in every season.
As long as there is a means of making money, then be rest assured that some persons will try to find the easy way to gather as much money as they can, and this is where the issue of fraud comes into play, I can tell you that more money are made through illegal means, than it is made legitimately.
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February 17, 2023, 10:29:34 PM
#90
This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.
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February 17, 2023, 05:50:11 PM
#89
It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

If this allegation is supposedly true, then the commissioner has to do something about the players. They should be absolutely prohibited to participate in all sports events as they are the ones who destroy the integrity and the spirit of the sport for corruption and money. All the people that are involved should be severely penalized in this aspect and they should be prohibited from stepping foot into any sports that they enter.

Sports betting has the spirit of betting into a team due to the knowledge that you have. If a team supposedly fixes the game, this completely destroys the purpose on why this category of gambling has been created and this will significantly prejudiced the rights of these users.
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February 17, 2023, 05:47:28 PM
#88
$28,000 seems like a tempting amount to just score a penalty in a game at a certain time, so I'm not surprised that athletes have been able to get involved. I am surprised by another - is the market for betting on penalties at certain times so large that the bets that allow fraudsters to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars have long gone unnoticed? It seems to me that the very first big bet (even if it was split into many small ones) would have attracted attention.
^ It is possible that there are thousands of dollars in unnoticed big wins from fraudsters, I can't imagine how big this amount is but one thing that I know, this is a huge amount that is easy to spot. I also have this thought, what is the penalty for the athletes if someone caught them the same issue? It should be memorable penalties so that they will not do it again or those athletes planning the same way will be afraid because of the possible penalties. Hopefully, our betting organizers will have a solution for this, it will harm their institution if this will continue.
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February 17, 2023, 05:35:14 PM
#87
$28,000 seems like a tempting amount to just score a penalty in a game at a certain time, so I'm not surprised that athletes have been able to get involved. I am surprised by another - is the market for betting on penalties at certain times so large that the bets that allow fraudsters to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars have long gone unnoticed? It seems to me that the very first big bet (even if it was split into many small ones) would have attracted attention.
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February 17, 2023, 05:09:10 PM
#86
I would guess that it is normal for these type of things to happen unfortunately, specially when we are talking about clubs that are not even in the top division. Most of these players get paid very little, and they would accept these type of offers in a heart beat, unless they are posed to go to next stage and young talents to be stars in the future.

I think it is a shame, but this can't be just Brazilian teams, I am sure aside from a few big nations, it must be true for almost all nations and that is why it looks quite sad, because we know that this si just the one that we learned about, imagine how many there are out there that we haven't even heard about.
And that is what makes this so worrying, since anyone that takes some time to think about this can tell it is impossible this is an isolated incident, this probably happens all over the world and at every single sport there is, so this calls into question the whole purpose of sports as it is not longer about who is the most skilled competitor and instead it becomes about who has the biggest amount of money to manipulate the results, which help us understand why professional leagues do what they can to hide news like this so sports fans do not get disappointed about the lack of integrity on sports.
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February 17, 2023, 05:08:22 PM
#85
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.
I believe a scandal like this was just a matter of time, taking the history of the country with previous corruption schemes, recent skyrocket of sports betting platforms' popularity locally, and a fertile niche to execute a profitable scam, like the Serie B, since attention from public and media is mostly focused in Serie A.
Its a fixed matches, so those people behind this manipulation is surely making a lot of money and of course the sports itself benefited from that and that’s why they are still doing this.

If there’s a big mafia behind this one, how can the government stop this if some of them are also involve to this for sure. This is the risk on a sports betting, hard to know if they are a fixed matches or not, its also happening in other sports.
Due to the country's history, it's really possible that there could be an agent of the government involved on this kind of scheme, at least at some point of the case, as the judiciary, legislative and executive are very close to each other. Maybe what we know so far is just the top of the iceberg. It was said 3 players are under suspicion, but there could be more we don't know yet. Investigations are happening in real time, so it's early to say 'how deep the hole is". Let's see if this case is going to be taken till the end.
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February 17, 2023, 04:59:03 PM
#84
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.
I believe a scandal like this was just a matter of time, taking the history of the country with previous corruption schemes, recent skyrocket of sports betting platforms' popularity locally, and a fertile niche to execute a profitable scam, like the Serie B, since attention from public and media is mostly focused in Serie A.
Its a fixed matches, so those people behind this manipulation is surely making a lot of money and of course the sports itself benefited from that and that’s why they are still doing this.

If there’s a big mafia behind this one, how can the government stop this if some of them are also involve to this for sure. This is the risk on a sports betting, hard to know if they are a fixed matches or not, its also happening in other sports.
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February 17, 2023, 04:57:22 PM
#83
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Hey, OP, as long as you've been on the forum, you should know better than to include a link to the news item. I guess the news is in Portuguese? I've searched and I don't see anything about it but I did find this which is relevant to the general match fixing problem:

Suspicious sports results? Mafia might have fixed them

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Organised crime groups make an estimated €120 million of profit a year from betting-related match-fixing in sports events. Not only football matches are fixed, but tennis results are also manipulated more and more. And sports mafia are no longer only corrupting players, but clubs too.

I think we need to send him a pm to include the link he might have forgotten to include the link so we can verify his post because it's very particular to an organization and country, but it's not only happening in Brazil every country's sports organization have their own shares of game fixing even if they have strict rules in game fixing.
This is because the sports mafia is well organized and there are players or officials of the team that are cooperating with this mafia.
It happens in the past it's still happening and will happen in the future because game fixing is very profitable.
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February 17, 2023, 04:55:26 PM
#82
I would guess that it is normal for these type of things to happen unfortunately, specially when we are talking about clubs that are not even in the top division. Most of these players get paid very little, and they would accept these type of offers in a heart beat, unless they are posed to go to next stage and young talents to be stars in the future.

I think it is a shame, but this can't be just Brazilian teams, I am sure aside from a few big nations, it must be true for almost all nations and that is why it looks quite sad, because we know that this si just the one that we learned about, imagine how many there are out there that we haven't even heard about.
Could really happen on smaller leagues or to those who arent that known but pretty much sure that once these fixed matches or fraudulent acts would be caught it would really be still making up some

noises which is something not that really surprising but eventually it would really be just simply forgottenby people since the teams or players involved arent really that much known or something.

They might faced up some charges and violations if ever get caught but we know that it wouldn't really be that much on severe.Expect for these things to happen yet it is really that
be on this way.
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February 17, 2023, 04:21:32 PM
#81
I would guess that it is normal for these type of things to happen unfortunately, specially when we are talking about clubs that are not even in the top division. Most of these players get paid very little, and they would accept these type of offers in a heart beat, unless they are posed to go to next stage and young talents to be stars in the future.

I think it is a shame, but this can't be just Brazilian teams, I am sure aside from a few big nations, it must be true for almost all nations and that is why it looks quite sad, because we know that this si just the one that we learned about, imagine how many there are out there that we haven't even heard about.
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February 17, 2023, 03:23:34 PM
#80
If it's possible for this kind of competition for fraud to occur, how much more to much smaller competitions. There are local and regional competitions everywhere. Some games must be rigged. Some detected, some not.

Here, there was also a national basketball competition where a team was obviously throwing the game. It was Manny Pacquiao himself who filed the case against those who were involved in the fixing.

I also have a neighbor who was a pro DOTA II player. He and his team were involved in match fixing. They were banned by Valve itself.

Fraud is also rampant in sports.
Bribing and game fixing is pretty common on small-scale tournaments and local games. I've heard about a whole basketball team being investigated because of how lame they played comparing to their previous ones, I believe this was in 2019 or so. Since these games are low-stakes and would probably not fill seats in the stadium, as an athlete accepting bribes and fixing games is your best bet at earning quick bucks, of course at the expense of the integrity of the game that you devoted your whole life to. Although there are multiple parameters set now that are aimed at reducing if not outright preventing game fixing and sports fraud, as you have said, there's still a huge number that flies off the radar undetected.
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February 17, 2023, 03:05:03 PM
#79
This is also known as match fixing if I understand the OP clear enough, I am not surprised by the way, this is something that have existed for as long as gambling and betting itself, I am really not happy to say that such problems as this will never find a long lasting solution, there can never be a time when matching rigging, as well as fixing would be completely eradicated from our system, we can only try to manage it, that is reduce it, its something that have been since of old, and will continue even unto the unforeseen future.
This is not something peculiar to brazil alone, it is present in every country.

Yes, it was clear that this was a match fixing. even though they have unique ways that are also different, basically in essence all of them aim to rig the results of a match. referring to the source of the link that the OP shared, the actor of the main culprit has been arrested. in this case, I don't really understand how the betting fraud works and the mechanism they run.

practices like these, however, are nothing new to us. and as you said, this is not something that only happens in Brazil, but it can happen in many countries, especially developing countries. there are various ways and modes, in match fixing practices. but what is certain, practices like this can occur because of a bad system and weak regulations, so that it can be exploited by elements or parties who are not responsible.
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February 17, 2023, 10:19:20 AM
#78
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.
I believe a scandal like this was just a matter of time, taking the history of the country with previous corruption schemes, recent skyrocket of sports betting platforms' popularity locally, and a fertile niche to execute a profitable scam, like the Serie B, since attention from public and media is mostly focused in Serie A.
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February 17, 2023, 10:17:30 AM
#77
With sports betting being a very big business now, match fixing was always going to drag in these smaller leagues as players are poorly paid, teams lack the financial resources to make them better , and the leagues are certainly given less attention which make them the perfect candidate to this fraudulent business.

And those amounts they are paid for a division 2, division 3 tier team was always going to lure plays to be the pawns in this betting syndicate, and only solution is to pay players better otherwise this won't stop anytime soon.
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February 17, 2023, 09:34:15 AM
#76
This is also known as match fixing if I understand the OP clear enough, I am not surprised by the way, this is something that have existed for as long as gambling and betting itself, I am really not happy to say that such problems as this will never find a long lasting solution, there can never be a time when matching rigging, as well as fixing would be completely eradicated from our system, we can only try to manage it, that is reduce it, its something that have been since of old, and will continue even unto the unforeseen future.
This is not something peculiar to brazil alone, it is present in every country.
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February 17, 2023, 09:20:39 AM
#75

I'm kind of intrigued. Who is this neighbors of yours that is a pro DOTA 2 player?
Solo was also accused of match fixing as he placed a bet against his own team, Virtus Pro. Remember the 322 meme? It was originally pertaining to his act.

I won't drop any name, but suffice it to say that he's a player of Team Smart Omega or popularly known as Omega ESports. They were playing against Execration in the SEA DOTA Pro Circuit (DPC) 2021-2022. It was suspected that Omega ESports was throwing the game. Later on, after investigation, it was confirmed that they were involved in a match-fixing agreement. It was pretty obvious in the game. They were eventually banned from all Valve-sponsored events.

This is off-topic already, but the point is fraud in sports happen not just in the local, regional, and national levels; it happens even in the international level.
It happens in DOTA as well? they did that as well in mobile legends. Hmm I think this team has a serious problem that needed to take an action, thought it may look like they are just doing that for fun but it happen so many times, how can their supporters trust their credibility and integrity if they are okay with matchmaking and selling some match. For me it will be considered as fraud as well.
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February 17, 2023, 09:15:43 AM
#74
We know how does sports betting get attractive to people because of the satisfaction it can give during the game the same time supporting their favourite team. also, there's a significant numbers of names involved with this game too,. Hence, some of them make a bet,, and that causes the same time having transactions under the table with the management which is having the match-fixing this is very common in different sports that they know there's a huge bet and wins with this so they can quickly turn around the game sometimes it just the mistake of the players reason why they throw the game.
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February 17, 2023, 08:48:25 AM
#73
Those players are just playing for money. Most of those powerful and rich people want to somehow control the game or game fixing it so that they will win their bet. It was really sad that athletes or players can be paid money just to do those acts or make their game lose, as for them, money matters the most. This really can affect the image of sports in Brazil for sure, as it was involved in the fraud, and sports bettors in that country will more likely not bet in those games.
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February 17, 2023, 08:20:15 AM
#72
such scams in sports betting are common in several countries and even in national matches there are sometimes such scams and bribe some players to lose.
although I have often seen this kind of fraud, after reading this thread I was wondering why such fraud still occurs frequently and sometimes occurs in national matches.

we as gamblers may feel disadvantaged by the player's bribery. what we should have won but lost, that's really sad.
and usually such scams are frequent in live sports betting.
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