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February 18, 2023, 11:37:16 PM
We've heard and seen some similar cases of match fixing but this very one caught my attention because it's a large competition and if such a competition can be rigged then, how much more are the hopes of smaller teams and competition?

Just as other users have said and most of this match fixing are done in developing countries by some group of very influential and wealth persons because rigging and fixing of matches can mostly be done by people who have what it take to buy the minds of people and make some good and vuge returns in return.
Rather than developing countries, these kind of incidents were common in the countries where specific sports is popular. Think about Brazil, automatically everyone remember football when the name Brazil is found somewhere. Such kind of fraud happening in those countries could destroy the real spirit over the sports. What is being done by these frauds were a destruction to the future generation.
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February 18, 2023, 11:09:17 PM
We've heard and seen some similar cases of match fixing but this very one caught my attention because it's a large competition and if such a competition can be rigged then, how much more are the hopes of smaller teams and competition?

Just as other users have said and most of this match fixing are done in developing countries by some group of very influential and wealth persons because rigging and fixing of matches can mostly be done by people who have what it take to buy the minds of people and make some good and vuge returns in return.
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February 18, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Match fixing or sports betting fraud is a big crime and unfortunately, the real beneficiaries for these are the national players and maybe the government is also involved in fraud of such a big level.
The real beneficiaries are the ones behind this match-fixing and it doesn't usually start with the players but with those big gamblers behind them.
The players are being used and gets paid for their participation but it isn't big compared to what these gamblers are getting from these fixed matches.
As for the government, if there's a government that's involved in match-fixing then that's truly a corrupt administration.

You can't eradicate this problem if bigwigs are the ones involved on this activity.
And definitely, not only in Brazil but in other countries as well, but it will be in minor leagues.
Hard to manipulate a game without controversy if they play this game in major leagues.
This is why most fixed games can be observed in small leagues where these bigwigs can put a good amount of money.
I can say, this gambling fraud won't stop so long there are big gamblers who want to earn huge profits along with athletes who can be bribed.
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February 18, 2023, 05:24:12 PM
Bet has always been one of the aim of any competition, almost every sportsman is involved in the act. The top officials in football, stake bets, and influential people in the governing bodies of the sports can manipulate the outcome of a game because of greed and to secure wealth. A person that stakes 1 million dollar for a single game would by any means try to win the game. Sometimes, I doubt the VAR technology, these days a lot of goals are being cancelled, which kills the joy of watching football. Quite true, it's always an offside, but before the VAR was initiated not all of these were seen, then, in the past, people enjoyed watching football. For instance, the PSG and Bayern munich goal scored by Mbappe that was later cancelled, that would have been considered a goal without the VAR as it was unnoticed, so these techs can be used to rig games and it can't be questioned. On the other side, these players are professionals and they've mastered the way football works, they can decide to kick a ball on the goal bar or pole, spectators would consider it a mistake, but the player purposefully kicked the ball on the pole. Hence, it will be difficult not to experience this in football or other games, the gambling niche controls a huge aspect of sports. And the bodies who run the gambling companies are the underworld family bosses, so we should expect the unexpected.
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February 18, 2023, 05:18:15 PM
$28,000 seems like a tempting amount to just score a penalty in a game at a certain time, so I'm not surprised that athletes have been able to get involved. I am surprised by another - is the market for betting on penalties at certain times so large that the bets that allow fraudsters to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars have long gone unnoticed? It seems to me that the very first big bet (even if it was split into many small ones) would have attracted attention.
^ It is possible that there are thousands of dollars in unnoticed big wins from fraudsters, I can't imagine how big this amount is but one thing that I know, this is a huge amount that is easy to spot. I also have this thought, what is the penalty for the athletes if someone caught them the same issue? It should be memorable penalties so that they will not do it again or those athletes planning the same way will be afraid because of the possible penalties. Hopefully, our betting organizers will have a solution for this, it will harm their institution if this will continue.

I do not think that significant amounts can go unnoticed - statistically, any fluctuations are very visible, and in such a not very popular market as a penalty, any hundred thousand dollars of bias in one of the parties clearly indicates that this is a fixed game.
As for the penalties, they should be very severe - suspension from games for several years, but usually this does not happen, since it is one thing to statistically detect fraud and another thing to legally prove it.
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February 18, 2023, 05:03:45 PM
If it's possible for this kind of competition for fraud to occur, how much more to much smaller competitions. There are local and regional competitions everywhere. Some games must be rigged. Some detected, some not.

Here, there was also a national basketball competition where a team was obviously throwing the game. It was Manny Pacquiao himself who filed the case against those who were involved in the fixing.

I also have a neighbor who was a pro DOTA II player. He and his team were involved in match fixing. They were banned by Valve itself.

Fraud is also rampant in sports.
Cheating in e-sports events and tournaments have been pretty high in the years 2020-2022 or maybe even in 2023, since I didn't hear any news about it so far so I didn't include it. People cheat in all sorts of ways, some using hack files in their systems and some misusing bugs and glitches to gain more exposure or advantages within a game.

Among all, fixing a match sounds to be the easiest way to me for an e-sports player since there is nothing else to make it suspicious unless a team or a player starts playing noticeably bad all of a sudden compared to their game quality from before. Even if things are investigated, one can easily say that it's just a game and anything can happen.
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February 18, 2023, 04:53:55 PM
sadly it's still the same old problem.
since it is possible to bet even on minor leagues it is easier to observe these frouds.

in Italy there was recently a scandal involving fourth division teams (!) just to give an idea of how widespread the problem is...
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February 18, 2023, 04:42:19 PM

There is nothing out of the ordinary about this. It's nor.al for these developing leagues or series to have some fraudulent practices such as match fixing within therr organisation and it makes me wonder of the rules in football doesn't apply, if they've got no governing body to put these things in check because, some are way too obvious.

I saw a clip on YouTube some years ago and the player practically faced the corner spot or was it the throwing and sent the ball flying. I felt mocked because it was an African league but these fixing or manipulations are not any good. It makes people lose trust in the process.
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February 18, 2023, 04:29:13 PM
Match fixing or sports betting fraud is a big crime and unfortunately, the real beneficiaries for these are the national players and maybe the government is also involved in fraud of such a big level.
The real beneficiaries are the ones behind this match-fixing and it doesn't usually start with the players but with those big gamblers behind them.
The players are being used and gets paid for their participation but it isn't big compared to what these gamblers are getting from these fixed matches.
As for the government, if there's a government that's involved in match-fixing then that's truly a corrupt administration.
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February 18, 2023, 04:24:46 PM
This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.
This might be correct especially if you are doing this on a corrupt country, and probably some government official are making money here as well.
Fraud is everywhere, hard to tell if the game is fixed or not because the players can also be part of it. Sports betting are easy to fraud, if there's a huge money in the table. The mafia knows where to make money and with that, Brazil sports might be one of their favorite spot to do this. You're lucky if you are able to get a signal for a fixed matches, its not easy to have that signal though and no guarantee for if its true or not.

Match fixing or sports betting fraud is a big crime and unfortunately, the real beneficiaries for these are the national players and maybe the government is also involved in fraud of such a big level.

I will try to give you an example and you will see how big this game is. Let's suppose a Strong Team has a match with a very weak team and it is certain that a strong team will win. Almost 90% will bet on the strong team. Now the Strong team decided to fix the match, lose it, and before the match, they place a million dollars bet on the weak team (the odds are also high for weak teams).

The strong team loses the match, lose the match winning money but won 100 times more in the bet. The government can also involve in this if they decide to inject even more capital in this fixed match bet.

We cannot actually predict who is under some of these attacks since all we canbsee is only on what they presented on us, this may not be applicable to only Brazil alone but any country can as well ve involved, some sport were believe to be fixed though they will make it appears that it's live, if we look at the role being played by Brazil in participating in all manners of sports, we can see how active they have being but things like this aren't common that the government may be involved in setting up a game just to defraud it citizens or gamblers, but individuals does.
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February 18, 2023, 04:13:45 PM

Always to those people who are sitting on the top of the chain would be always have the power and the rights on doing on whatever they do want considering that they do have the power and the finances then
everything could really be that possible and its not really a shocking thing after all.

This is why its not really something that new when it comes on rigging up games and any fraudulent activities made up in behind.It is really just that sad specially into those people who
do have make out bets and overall ethicality and general essence of sport which it had been destroyed out due to this one.
I think some people wanted to win when they bet and to have a higher chance of winning and the person or people who bet opposite will surely lose and I think that the organizer of the game will surely gain profit because of it. People like us who are not rich or have the ability to those things. Not really sure if this is really happening but I think they also sell it like they get paid and the person who pay will be informed that the game or match is fixed and let's say Team A will win and Team B will lose the match against Team A but in a way where it won't be obvious that they intentionally lose the game. Let mw know guys if this really happen. I am only assuming that it is possible since I think it is possible to make the game a fixed matches hence why it is being discussed.
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February 18, 2023, 03:44:24 PM
^

Of course the fixed matches aren't going anywhere. No matter what country we live in, we all know that most countries are corrupt. In the highest circles of power corruption is also in use, only there are other amounts. I'm sure that in most countries the government is involved in a lot of dirty business and fixed matches also belong to this, because it is one of the ways not only to launder money, but also to increase it.
Always to those people who are sitting on the top of the chain would be always have the power and the rights on doing on whatever they do want considering that they do have the power and the finances then
everything could really be that possible and its not really a shocking thing after all.

This is why its not really something that new when it comes on rigging up games and any fraudulent activities made up in behind.It is really just that sad specially into those people who
do have make out bets and overall ethicality and general essence of sport which it had been destroyed out due to this one.
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February 18, 2023, 03:33:11 PM
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^

Of course the fixed matches aren't going anywhere. No matter what country we live in, we all know that most countries are corrupt. In the highest circles of power corruption is also in use, only there are other amounts. I'm sure that in most countries the government is involved in a lot of dirty business and fixed matches also belong to this, because it is one of the ways not only to launder money, but also to increase it.
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February 18, 2023, 03:17:29 PM
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This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.
This might be correct especially if you are doing this on a corrupt country, and probably some government official are making money here as well.
Fraud is everywhere, hard to tell if the game is fixed or not because the players can also be part of it. Sports betting are easy to fraud, if there's a huge money in the table. The mafia knows where to make money and with that, Brazil sports might be one of their favorite spot to do this. You're lucky if you are able to get a signal for a fixed matches, its not easy to have that signal though and no guarantee for if its true or not.

Match fixing or sports betting fraud is a big crime and unfortunately, the real beneficiaries for these are the national players and maybe the government is also involved in fraud of such a big level.

I will try to give you an example and you will see how big this game is. Let's suppose a Strong Team has a match with a very weak team and it is certain that a strong team will win. Almost 90% will bet on the strong team. Now the Strong team decided to fix the match, lose it, and before the match, they place a million dollars bet on the weak team (the odds are also high for weak teams).

The strong team loses the match, lose the match winning money but won 100 times more in the bet. The government can also involve in this if they decide to inject even more capital in this fixed match bet.
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February 18, 2023, 01:08:52 PM
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This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.
That is also my thoughts we really dont know how many games they fixed and bribe players just to make the game lose. For sure that would be a lot of games and we haven't noticed it that is why they keep doing it and also I think that is their business to find another bettor that has money who will bet big and they will then do this so that they are the one who will win. I hope this will stop now and I am worried if this still continue doing as they are powerful people thay no one cant stop them
For sure there a lot now but the majority of them are not only obvious. They really played it well because what they are doing is against the law and there are serious consequences about it once they got caught out. Don't worry because like what @libert said, god still sees it and he is the only one that will punish those abusers. They still can't succeed further in their life or these people can suffer later on. Match fixing is a kind of business to those who do it.

This is where they earn easy and huge money. They will find a bettor and then they can get commissions on those winning bets. I am sorry but I think this won't stop anytime soon. Even if some are caught, this could still happen on other games, teams or regions.
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February 18, 2023, 11:54:06 AM
#96
This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.

That is also my thoughts we really dont know how many games they fixed and bribe players just to make the game lose. For sure that would be a lot of games and we haven't noticed it that is why they keep doing it and also I think that is their business to find another bettor that has money who will bet big and they will then do this so that they are the one who will win. I hope this will stop now and I am worried if this still continue doing as they are powerful people thay no one cant stop them
I think if a team already has this issue, they should be banned for some games and if it is proven guilty for match making they should get out of the league. Players don't have a problem with this maybe they are accountable as well but I think administration of the team should be banned. It is very unfair to have a fixed match, not only for our us since we love sports betting and we love to bet but the thing is they are just doing shameless thing for the sake of money.
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February 18, 2023, 10:08:33 AM
#95
This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.
This might be correct especially if you are doing this on a corrupt country, and probably some government official are making money here as well.
Fraud is everywhere, hard to tell if the game is fixed or not because the players can also be part of it. Sports betting are easy to fraud, if there's a huge money in the table. The mafia knows where to make money and with that, Brazil sports might be one of their favorite spot to do this. You're lucky if you are able to get a signal for a fixed matches, its not easy to have that signal though and no guarantee for if its true or not.
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February 18, 2023, 09:41:27 AM
#94
This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.

That is also my thoughts we really dont know how many games they fixed and bribe players just to make the game lose. For sure that would be a lot of games and we haven't noticed it that is why they keep doing it and also I think that is their business to find another bettor that has money who will bet big and they will then do this so that they are the one who will win. I hope this will stop now and I am worried if this still continue doing as they are powerful people thay no one cant stop them
As long as their operations are still difficult to detect and find until they are punished for their actions, they will continue to do so because they have the money, human resources and time to find people who can help them to commit bribes. They already have people helping them so that they still have someone else to replace the task if one is caught.

If the government is really serious about stopping it, it should thoroughly search and investigate every suspicious case. If necessary, the government can place an undercover agent to open the business and report it to the government.
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February 18, 2023, 05:08:44 AM
#93
This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.

That is also my thoughts we really dont know how many games they fixed and bribe players just to make the game lose. For sure that would be a lot of games and we haven't noticed it that is why they keep doing it and also I think that is their business to find another bettor that has money who will bet big and they will then do this so that they are the one who will win. I hope this will stop now and I am worried if this still continue doing as they are powerful people thay no one cant stop them
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February 18, 2023, 04:08:00 AM
#92
The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

There isn't much information here and I would expect that most news about this are in Portuguese for the smaller Brazilian leagues. But since this scam must involve a lot of players who tried to get penalties, I wonder now how long this scam actually worked before it was found out. 150,000 Reais is a lot of money in the poorer regions of Brazil, in the big cities like Rio and Sao Paulo this is not that much again. Once this scam is being discovered the career is over and you will likely have to repay all your illegitimate gains. Maybe all the players involved managed to bet on the games themselves and increased their payouts like that. Otherwise this seems like too risky compared to the payoff. What I find most surprising is that betting fraud in football lately involves mostly players and not the referees. Isn't the risk too high to involve a large number of players in the fraud? The more people involved the higher the chance that someone will tell friends about it and the whole scam will be uncovered. Having a rigged match in sports betting is like winning the lottery, we can bet all our money on the most risky outcome and make a huge profit. The problem is only if we can trust the match is fixed or not.
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