Topic: Sports betting fraud in Brazil 😦 - page 4. (Read 946 times)

and that is the power of money , this can blinded everyone in all chances  lol.  this is also the reason why I am now loving betting in regards to sports in PVP than in bookmarker .
I have known a former Basketball star here in our country that admit this to be happening , they are being part of fixed matches and received decent amount for that involvement .

You are right, that is why it is absolutely not permissible for a government official to get involved in sports organizations because with his position he can manage many things including fixing match scores with the help of people involved in organizing tournaments, and this practice occurs a lot in developing countries even though it also occurs in developed countries but the number is not as much as in developing countries and match fixing shows how the country is full of corrupt practices

this is the bad side of sportsbetting in which while many gambling games does not support this yet in sports it is possible.
let us not  support them instead gamble at our own risk to maintain the fun and thrill.in which the essence of gambling in my own belief and understanding.

but brazil isn't that small country mate but yet there are fraud happening right? and actually this is not just about the country but about the capacity of people to cheat in gambling area.

and also as long as there are people who wanted to participate and give consent to this doing? then we will never achieve a fraud free gambling.

While it is disappointing at the same time there is nothing we can do, as anyone that can pay so much money as in the example given by the OP probably has a lot of money to take advantage of those results and they probably make their living with all kind of illegal activities.

And it is unfortunate as this makes casinos very wary of winning gamblers, and even sport bettors which are using legitimate methods to beat the casinos could end up going through several identity checks due to the actions of those criminals.

It's so saddening that this still happens. Fixed matches is really common despite it being considered as cheating. And many people still do this even though it's not really legal and has repercussions with it. It's not only in Brazil, but in almost every part of the world, even in online games, NFTs and the likes, there are fixed matches. But it's still disappointing that people resort to do such thing just for the sake of money. They set aside their morals for an amount they can earn because they prefer the easy way instead of doing hard work.

If this happens in somewhat large scale, what more in small scale sportsbetting and gambling, right? Most likely it's rampant in local gambling and betting and perhaps they might even have organizers for fix matching for events like this to guarantee a win and a winning prize. Hopefully, this will be eliminated, but I doubt it can be done easily as it's rooted and has become a habit already.

I agree with you, it's something you can't protect yourself from, but it's possible to minimize the risks.
The best that can be done is to legalize gambling in countries, because if something is prohibited or poorly regulated, bettors have to resort to clandestine sites that generally have a low reputation and a high probability of manipulation of results.
However, when there is strong regulation, inspection is easier, bets are more "transparent" and auditable, and fraudsters are more at risk of committing crimes.

The second point is a responsibility of the bettors: if there is already a regulated market, bets must be placed on sites that have a reputation and follow the rules.
Generally, these sites are the first to report irregularities in betting to the authorities, keeping reputable bettors safer from fraud.

If we draw an analogy with the insurance business, then it is more correct to compare minor cases, rather than deaths and other accidents with millions of payments. As you probably know, for minor accidents, insurance companies usually pay (in civilized countries) simply upon the fact of the application without any examinations and other nonsense, since even if the applicant lies, it will be more expensive to catch him on this lie. So, by analogy, it’s cheaper for bookmakers to simply return bets than to deal with scammers where the result is not guaranteed.

Hate to say this, but match fixing will never end, because people are always chasing for money and do whatever means necessary to take advantage of the system's flaws.
Fixed match benefits everyone in the league, especially when there's a huge betting in the line. Sports now a days in more of a business than an actual sport, so it will not going to surprise me if these athletes are not different than an actors/actresses who will play their role what they're told and the match is just a big act as if they're playing real ball, but the result is deliberate.

Not really that a bad or weak regulation but rather some people on the organization or governing bodies does really involved on such illegal act or unethical move just for the sake of money.

We cant just able to deny that this is how this reality do works on where there are people who would really be doing things just for the sake of money.Setting up these kind of fights or games
could really just that possible on small leagues which it doesnt really that get attention or not that been caught obviously.

Its not new or shocking news anymore when it comes to this.Its always that been existing and there's nothing we can do about it.

IMO, usually this kind of practice happens because of a bad system and weak regulation. cases such as match fixing, with all its modes will always be exploited by irresponsible parties. usually, their goal is minor leagues that are easy to control as the OP has discussed in this thread.

Cases like this not only involve the players, but also involve many parties involved in it. there are many people who want to benefit, whether it's managers, club officials, it doesn't even rule out the possibility, a federation is also involved and this doesn't only happen in Brazil. in fact, we were shocked by a big scandal in the dark history of the world of football that happened in Serie A 2006 ago. and this is the bad side of the world of football, that practices such as match fixing are still difficult to eradicate.

That's quite surprising. I can't verify now whether it is true what you say, but I just assume it is as you probably quite a bit more about gambling than me. It it does make sense what you say when professional scammers are involved in getting account frozen. They will have a bullet proof set up I assume to exactly counter such an action from a bookmaker.

But this reminds me of insurance companies to have huge departments that deal day in and day out with hypothetical accidents and even conduct scientific research on whether or not a certain could in practice have happened the way a claimant describes it. As much as insurance fraud is a thing, I wonder whether it would make sense for bookmakers to also build an alliance and create a department that collects data and investigates suspicious causes around the clock. Over time that database could become valuable. Fraudsters will get family members involved and friends and then strangers who get also bribed if they try to get away and not show up in a database for suspects. But over time the fraudsters' alternatives might also decrease.

Since it is a multi-billion dollar business I just would have thought that they are running sophisticated investigation departments even across different platforms.

If someone is KYCed and you realize that he repeatedly is involved in suspicious cases, you just exclude him from your platform and share that info with all other bookmakers. Something like that could enfold an effect over time.

Yeah, this still sadly happens in some other countries and they're capitalizing and abusing it with the smaller leagues. That's the sad reality that this is hard to be gone.
As long as these people who are behind these match fixing sees some opportunities in any sport that they can make a fixed match, this will go on and it's gonna be hard to stop it even with the authorities.

Strange as it may seem, but no, scammers will easily sue (and win) if the bookmaker simply freezes their money. Therefore, when bookmakers detect fraud, they do not freeze money, do not go to the police (except in extreme cases), but simply return bets on a suspicious event with a coefficient of 1 (just a return of the bet). For them, it is much easier than doing investigations, courts, etc. while scammers immediately fall into a huge minus (since the organization of fixed games obviously costs a lot of money).

I think that I read some articles a while ago where sports betting companies have announced an extensive initiative to build a co-owned data base that identifies cross platform betting scams and other statistical outliers. To make it really worth it scammers also know that they can get into trouble or that their money gets frozen. Due to this database it is also not easily possible to spread smaller amounts over various providers.

What you mentioned about detecting fraud and legally prove it, that's probably the biggest issue. But providers know that scammers won't sue themselves if their money gets frozen. I doubt that that problem will ever get eliminated. You will always find someone to participate in a scam, especially in sports and leagues where salaries are not that high.

Match fixing is obviously has not gone up to these days, and it becomes even more rampant especially that sportsbetting gained high demand for most of the gamblers. The bad thing is those rigged games seem even more legal than those non-rigged games. Worst thing is it leaves serious implication for sports at all levels. And I believe it’s not only Brazil that has been involved in sportsbetting fraud but also Australia, China and Spain as they have been investigated too concerning match fixing issues.

Poverty and greed is the main driver of this match-fixing scandal in Brazil. 28,000 dollars is a whole lot of money in Brazil. Some of these players are not well paid making them live in abject poverty. So they cannot resist this opportunity to make this huge sum of money even if it might affect their football career negatively or give them a jail term.

Some of them are not just content with the money they earn. They have this strong desire to live above their means. Therefore, they tend to grab this illegal opportunity to make extra cash. But it is also important to state that these fraudulent activities have the potency of killing the beautiful game of football.

It's heartbreaking to see match-fixing stain any sport, especially football, the world's favorite. Brazil's unsportsmanlike behavior is disgusting. It's fantastic that those cheaters were caught, but there are still many more out there. Match-fixing is complex and requires many solutions. Should we eliminate championship competitions or investigate other options? Gambling dens—nevermind! To ensure their games aren't tainted, they should step up and check. It's complicated, but we must keep attentive and protect the game's honor. As for me, I just can't help but wonder what other skeletons might come tumbling out of the closet.

If there's huge demand and cash flow around the league, any bookies will add that leagues because they can earn more money and if it's found the match was fixed, the casino can easily to void every bettors who bet in that's matches. This is the reason why to cash out your winnings, it's take few hours or days, to make sure the matches were not fixed and the casino wouldn't rekt.

The money involved shouldn't be surprising because football is very big over there in Brazil, contradicting to what FIFA ranking is, I think Brazil are the best footballing nation in the world and since match fixing is a very big problem in other part of the world that has less footballing heritage, I didn't expect Brazil to be any less, I'm just glad they were caught as this is a good warning to others wanting to go in this same path.

Due to reports like these, I'm of the opinion that the less championship competition to be removed as so many fraud are ongoing over there. Casino shouldn't put games been played there as an option to bet because so many match fixing can be organized without been notified unlike the profession competitions.