Sports betting fraud in Brazil 😦 - page 7.

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Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

This type of bribery fraud in betting on sports matches often occurs anywhere, especially if in sports betting there are several rich people who come in to bet, it is easier to manipulate a match.
Maybe not only rich bettors who benefit, but both teams that compete will also benefit because one team wins and the team that loses gets paid from the results of the agreement with the bettor.
Maybe this kind of thing often happens in several sports matches in certain leagues and happens very often.

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Sports betting fraud, I would say is as old as man's existence. Is it closely related to greed. It kills the game of soccer especially in the not-so-popular leagues where it is frequently committed.
True soccer fans with keen observation and experience in the sport know that most of the fouls committed during the game do not just happen. It is premeditated. In our local league some time ago, a leaked audio record revealed that a player who plays the defence was received a huge amount of money to cause penalty against his own team during the tournament.
And he actually did, and his team lost in the game. Sports betting fraud happens anywhere and everywhere there the game occur. And as we know it requires a group of people to execute it. Most players are gamblers even some coaches and referees. So, fraud in sport betting is inevitable.

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And there has already been one person arrested, he is a businessman, he is suspected of having made the bets and also of having contacted the players and made the advance payment of a part of the payment.

Now get ready for a curious news story about how they caught this person.

There were supposed to be three penalties in three matches, but in the third match there was no penalty and the person lost his bet.
This third match was for a player from the Vila Nova team to take the penalty, and since he didn't do it, the person called the president of the team himself to help him to collect the money from the player.
Important detail, the president had no relation with this fraud, and the president is a police major. Cheesy

It's ridiculous, but at least the person got caught.

Source of this information: https://bnldata.com.br/empresario-preso-em-sp-por-fraudes-era-quem-fazia-apostas-e-intermediava-contatos-com-jogadores-diz-mp/

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Damn, I reckon players would really only undergo such frauds would be if their team somehow doesn't pay them enough or the team itself is bonkers and somehow want to make a quick buck (or politics, still the same anyway imo). Still can't imagine it really, my environment is rather far from these types of scenarios or occurrences.

Quote from: alegotardo on February 16, 2023, 08:23:03 PM

I believe that... as gambling is prohibited in Brazil, politicians are not bothering too much about curbing this type of crime with the intention of making bets safer.

In fact they are using news like this to tell the population that gambling is something very risky, they are saying that it is a "criminal" thing and that nobody should spend their money on it.

Unfortunately, I think this political mentality around gambling will take time to change in Brazil

Isn't that kind of contradictory? I mean it's not like gambling for sports is ever gonna disappear, there are other countries out there that gamble with sports so if they just leave it, the teams that still play inside their tournaments can and will still engage in such activities (selling the game).

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not only in brazil, many other countries do it like that, for example fixing scores in matches, therefore I have never been interested in betting on the minor leagues because there is potentially a lot of cheating there, that's why betting on the big leagues is safer even though sometimes I often see clubs big lose against small club i always thought there was a game in it, but i thought maybe it was just bad luck, lol

or better bet in Pvp , I mean in actual game and betting against another player as this is what I love doing in regards to sports betting with minor league involvement.

but in online ? or in something like what posted here? lol I hate to tell but there are so much risk to be taken.

Like here in my place there are several league that happening in sports complex so we go there and put our bets.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 16, 2023, 06:56:43 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.

Maybe they can easily find people they can bribe to help them get what they want. Money laundering also involves people who sit in the government and they can use any means so that clean and honest officials cannot detect their activities. It takes a lot of effort from government members to clean up the institution so that there are no frauds in all fields. And I still believe there are honest and clean officials in government who have the will to clean up money laundering, bribery or other illegal things, even though it takes time to clean them up.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 15, 2023, 09:12:23 PM

I'm kind of intrigued. Who is this neighbors of yours that is a pro DOTA 2 player?
Solo was also accused of match fixing as he placed a bet against his own team, Virtus Pro. Remember the 322 meme? It was originally pertaining to his act.

I won't drop any name, but suffice it to say that he's a player of Team Smart Omega or popularly known as Omega ESports. They were playing against Execration in the SEA DOTA Pro Circuit (DPC) 2021-2022. It was suspected that Omega ESports was throwing the game. Later on, after investigation, it was confirmed that they were involved in a match-fixing agreement. It was pretty obvious in the game. They were eventually banned from all Valve-sponsored events.

This is off-topic already, but the point is fraud in sports happen not just in the local, regional, and national levels; it happens even in the international level.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on February 15, 2023, 10:29:42 PM

Hey, OP, as long as you've been on the forum, you should know better than to include a link to the news item. I guess the news is in Portuguese? I've searched and I don't see anything about it but I did find this which is relevant to the general match fixing problem

I'm sorry, my intention was to post the link, but I ended up forgetting when I finished writing the post with my arguments about this news.

Better late than never... follow the reference (in Portuguese): https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/apostadores-teriam-lucro-de-r-2-milhoes-com-fraude-em-jogo-da-serie-b

Quote from: romero121 on February 16, 2023, 08:18:47 PM

Brazil have got the largest gambling market in Latin America. The same is being used by the frauds to make good money bribing the players. This is being well organised and are operating as gangs. Lawmakers need to be very careful and they should act fast and assure of such incidents won't happen anymore. In reality the politicians aren't much concerned about it. As mentioned this will truly affect the sporting industry as the audience watch with the mind, is it real game or fixed one.

I believe that... as gambling is prohibited in Brazil, politicians are not bothering too much about curbing this type of crime with the intention of making bets safer.

In fact they are using news like this to tell the population that gambling is something very risky, they are saying that it is a "criminal" thing and that nobody should spend their money on it.

Unfortunately, I think this political mentality around gambling will take time to change in Brazil

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Quote from: Hispo on February 16, 2023, 07:57:16 PM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 16, 2023, 06:56:43 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.

Another reason to stick to provably fair games, I guess.
It is kind of sad because there are people who are very passionate with sport betting and they have to deal with this nasty reality.

I wonder how common this practices are in other countries like France or the United Kingdom in comparison to Brazil or Argentina, since I would expect corruption not to be as blatant in Western Europe. Politics messing with people's passions and entertainment...

Brazil have got the largest gambling market in Latin America. The same is being used by the frauds to make good money bribing the players. This is being well organised and are operating as gangs. Lawmakers need to be very careful and they should act fast and assure of such incidents won't happen anymore. In reality the politicians aren't much concerned about it. As mentioned this will truly affect the sporting industry as the audience watch with the mind, is it real game or fixed one.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 16, 2023, 06:56:43 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.

Another reason to stick to provably fair games, I guess.
It is kind of sad because there are people who are very passionate with sport betting and they have to deal with this nasty reality.

I wonder how common this practices are in other countries like France or the United Kingdom in comparison to Brazil or Argentina, since I would expect corruption not to be as blatant in Western Europe. Politics messing with people's passions and entertainment...

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Quote from: harizen on February 16, 2023, 06:30:10 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

I was honestly surprised that something like that, which can consider "big", does have a case like that.

We all know that football is a highly recognized sport in Brazil that's why the gambling market for that sport is really huge. Because of that, it was being targeted by those who want to do some sh*t in sports betting.

I don't understand why players accept the bribe. They are already paid well for the long-term for just being a player in that big league.

It could be because the money given for the bribe is greater than their salary. Some players who do have a small salary and poor performance will become targets for bribes. moreover they are still playing in the first team, so it would be more appropriate to serve as the main target of bribes.
It's no wonder there are still bribes like this in local leagues. There are many sports where bribes take place, not just football betting.
Well-known bribery cases in the sports world include the FIFA scandal in 2015, in which high-ranking FIFA officials were suspected of accepting bribes from certain parties, as well as the doping scandal involving well-known athletes such as Lance Armstrong and Maria Sharapova.
https://www.britannica.com/event/2015-FIFA-corruption-scandal

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Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.

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Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

I was honestly surprised that something like that, which can consider "big", does have a case like that.

We all know that football is a highly recognized sport in Brazil that's why the gambling market for that sport is really huge. Because of that, it was being targeted by those who want to do some sh*t in sports betting.

I don't understand why players accept the bribe. They are already paid well for the long-term for just being a player in that big league.

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After a long coming across some incident where the team players are being bribed for money making out of match fixing. The players involved have done big mistake money. Now he had ruined his football career. Also the money involved is really big. Also Brazil being a football nation this will surely be disappointment among the football fans.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 16, 2023, 05:16:04 PM

Quote from: Fatunad on February 16, 2023, 05:07:01 PM

This is why it is really that impossible for these things to happen on big leagues or main games that we do know and there's no fool athlete would really be dealing up with such agreement considering that it would really put up their entire career if ever they would really be caught.This is why it would really be no surprise that these things do really happen on smaller ones on which it does have that less attention
on where these kind of motives and set ups could really be possible to happen or to be applied.This is why its not really that something or shocking anymore honestly
when it comes to this kind of situations.

There is a slim chance and it is not impossible in the big league. Probably there had been happening but we are not aware of it because people who are involved in this kind of fraud are professionals and even if the league had known it, they just keep it a secret and do verification to judgment secretly not to affect the reputation of the league.

I believe if this kind of fraud is rampant in a smaller league, there is also a big chance that it is also happening in the major and big league.

We dont know but for sure there is but you are right which we cant really tell on when it is happening because they arent that dumb to make it really that obvious.This is why we cant really remove the possibilities
considering that these kind of rigged plays could really happen.Its not something new anymore and its true that this is mostly happening on smaller leagues which not that much would really be watching.
This is why i dont really like to make out some bets on smaller league due to this kind of tendency and also its not really that something entertaining on watching them
honestly.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 16, 2023, 03:10:36 PM

Fraud is prevalent everywhere. The sports world is no exception. It is very rampant in low leagues where almost nobody pays attention. It is even in this leagues that sports bettors will cash out big time because before the game begins they already know that it is rigged and are confident that the team they place their wager on is going to win in the end. Infact it is a win-win for everyone- the gamblers, the officials, the players, the football teams. Sadly, this destroys core of the league and everything that sports stands for. It is even more damaging to the teams and players involved because they will never be able to perform at top tier clubs.

^It is everywhere, it seems like corruption.
Fixed match has been there for a long time and no one will fear it because there is no heavy penalty for this which is it should be a must.
But that is definitely right, if this becomes rampant for now, in the future this will destroy all kinds of sports games and no one will believe in them since people know already that it is a fixed match and there is already a result. The sports gambling business will probably down because people always thought that every match was a scripted and fixed game.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on February 15, 2023, 10:29:42 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

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Hey, OP, as long as you've been on the forum, you should know better than to include a link to the news item. I guess the news is in Portuguese? I've searched and I don't see anything about it but I did find this which is relevant to the general match fixing problem:

I hope OP will edit the thread and include the link where he gets that information, the absence of the article or link will treat the thread as speculation, and it's unfair to the football organization of Brazil that a discussion like this exists which no article to back it up, any organization doesn't want to be put in the bad light especially if the case is game fixing.
All sports organization owed their existence to the paying fans and supporters if they lose their trust they will lose sponsorships and the organization will crumble, so they have to be quick to investigate and ban people who are involved to game fixing.

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I believe this isn't your original thought and it's very improper when you create threads from scraps of people's information in here without a source link; you have actually broken a rule and you might lose your account for this reasons _{I believe you know this things already}
I'll advice that you fixup the link and make a proper citation to this post.
Well, the level of fraudulence in Brazil is appalling; but that ofcourse isn't happening in a major league cus they won't survive the next moment to continue Thier mischievous act. I'm wondering if they're not being paid well in that division so they need some extra funds from the public??

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Quote from: alegotardo on February 15, 2023, 07:33:40 PM

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

These people just wasted their long-term opportunities to earn money in their careers. Can't believe they exchanged their reputation and career over quick fraud money. For sure, these athletes will face a lifetime ban and aside from that will face penalties in accordance with the law.

It might be easier earn to earn money by involving in the such act but the consequences are big if got caught. Aside from that, what a nerve they have to support their family coming from fraudulent money.

Lots of people want to become athletes but never get the opportunity to become one and yet there are pathetic athletes who are throwing away their build status just because of easy money without even thinking twice.

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Quote from: Fatunad on February 16, 2023, 05:07:01 PM

This is why it is really that impossible for these things to happen on big leagues or main games that we do know and there's no fool athlete would really be dealing up with such agreement considering that it would really put up their entire career if ever they would really be caught.This is why it would really be no surprise that these things do really happen on smaller ones on which it does have that less attention
on where these kind of motives and set ups could really be possible to happen or to be applied.This is why its not really that something or shocking anymore honestly
when it comes to this kind of situations.

There is a slim chance and it is not impossible in the big league. Probably there had been happening but we are not aware of it because people who are involved in this kind of fraud are professionals and even if the league had known it, they just keep it a secret and do verification to judgment secretly not to affect the reputation of the league.

I believe if this kind of fraud is rampant in a smaller league, there is also a big chance that it is also happening in the major and big league.

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