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Some people expected good results from Lewis Hamilton in this race but he is now complaining about his car and saying he is not really connected with Mercedes machine.
I placed him high fourth place in my Superbu predictions but I don't think he can finish that high after hearing his complains, unless this is his strategy and mind games.
If you had to pick one driver not to finish Saudi Arabia Grand Prix who would you pick?
 
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I picked Verstappen for pole position and he was a big favourite for that as well. But here we are seeing him being out of the challenge in Q2 already. This is a motorsport and everything can change anytime. He had a serious problem with engine and couldn't continue later on. I thought Alonso wouldn't be on podium in the BSFL as well but now he has a big chance to go for it.

Leclerc also got a grid penalty of 10 places as you know. Things are going on really interesting on this race week so far.

I also had Verstappen picked up for pole position and honestly did not expect the people who are in top ten,despite me being happy for Piastri who made a great performance this time for McLaren making them starting from the first top ten tomorrow.I am also not changing my picks as I am happy with just 2 EBP points.Things for tomorrow look complicated and that is why I choose to not change anything,I expect a beautiful race for tomorrow and wonder what is the odd of Verstappen winning it,most likely Redbull will fix their things up and they can win the race if they are helped by some Safety Car for example.

Yeah it was a really good performance by Piastri to be honest. McLaren were still seeming weak at the beginning of the season. I can't say they have made a big progress still either. But this is still some progress for them and Piastri especially. Because he was out of race in the Bahrain GP which was a disappointing start. But he was just unlucky as it wasn't his fault.

Verstappen's having this problem just eased things for Piastri about making it to Q3. While Norris was struggling in the session at least Piastri gave hope to his team.
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I like to see Verstappen problems, not because i have something against him, but for the fun of the race this its really good, he have to comeback from the bottom of the grid and also he can battle agains Leleclerc in the track for positions because Leclerc starts from 12 position.

Lets see tomorrow start how many cars we have after the firsts turns.

agree, it will be more fun to watch Max and LeClerc trying to get into top3 from these positions, than watching boring race resolved after first curve
it is never easy to get back from position 15, but I think that Max will be into top6, probably up after first two laps, and than everything is possible

Alonso is in good position to get another podium, didn't thought that it is going to happen, but seems likely now

I think we are set in for quite a race tomorrow and with Max starting on back of the grid , I still see him having a recovery race and maybe even finish 3rd because let's be honest , he still has the faster car on the grid. However, I would like to see Alonso vs Perez for fight tomorrow and maybe , if Alonso wins , he will break 2 of Kimi's records and I doubt anyone will break this old age records anytime soon.

Anyone also saw the glimpse of Lance almost having a pole lap ? I do see him chasing a podium tomorrow as well but Russel really knows how to place on 3rd or 4th place and never give up , don't he ?  Grin  We do really have a great race tomorrow and fans really deserves one without a clear domination from a car.
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I like to see Verstappen problems, not because i have something against him, but for the fun of the race this its really good, he have to comeback from the bottom of the grid and also he can battle agains Leleclerc in the track for positions because Leclerc starts from 12 position.

Lets see tomorrow start how many cars we have after the firsts turns.

agree, it will be more fun to watch Max and LeClerc trying to get into top3 from these positions, than watching boring race resolved after first curve
it is never easy to get back from position 15, but I think that Max will be into top6, probably up after first two laps, and than everything is possible

Alonso is in good position to get another podium, didn't thought that it is going to happen, but seems likely now
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I like to see Verstappen problems, not because i have something against him, but for the fun of the race this its really good, he have to comeback from the bottom of the grid and also he can battle agains Leleclerc in the track for positions because Leclerc starts from 12 position.

Lets see tomorrow start how many cars we have after the firsts turns.
I want just to enjoy this season of F1 a little more so having Verstappen at 15 at start will make a season a little more interested. I have same opinion like you.
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I like to see Verstappen problems, not because i have something against him, but for the fun of the race this its really good, he have to comeback from the bottom of the grid and also he can battle agains Leleclerc in the track for positions because Leclerc starts from 12 position.

Lets see tomorrow start how many cars we have after the firsts turns.
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I picked Verstappen for pole position and he was a big favourite for that as well. But here we are seeing him being out of the challenge in Q2 already. This is a motorsport and everything can change anytime. He had a serious problem with engine and couldn't continue later on. I thought Alonso wouldn't be on podium in the BSFL as well but now he has a big chance to go for it.

Leclerc also got a grid penalty of 10 places as you know. Things are going on really interesting on this race week so far.

I also had Verstappen picked up for pole position and honestly did not expect the people who are in top ten,despite me being happy for Piastri who made a great performance this time for McLaren making them starting from the first top ten tomorrow.I am also not changing my picks as I am happy with just 2 EBP points.Things for tomorrow look complicated and that is why I choose to not change anything,I expect a beautiful race for tomorrow and wonder what is the odd of Verstappen winning it,most likely Redbull will fix their things up and they can win the race if they are helped by some Safety Car for example.
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I picked Verstappen for pole position and he was a big favourite for that as well. But here we are seeing him being out of the challenge in Q2 already. This is a motorsport and everything can change anytime. He had a serious problem with engine and couldn't continue later on. I thought Alonso wouldn't be on podium in the BSFL as well but now he has a big chance to go for it.

Leclerc also got a grid penalty of 10 places as you know. Things are going on really interesting on this race week so far.
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Maybe Alonso can even challenge Perez.


It seems that Aston Martin is equal to or even faster than Ferrari, my pole position tip was actually Perez. But now I'm not changing my tip, but it seems rather unlikely that Perez can achieve pole position, my podium tip for tomorrow is also rather unconventional, but in sport there are always surprises. Now let's wait for the qualifying.
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Free Practice is over now and Aston Martin, especially Alonso look very fast once again:



Maybe Alonso can even challenge Perez.
And Ferrari seems to struggle a lot on such a track, where many fast corners are key.

Make sure to enter your picks ahead of qualifying.  Smiley
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Max Verstappen is big favorite for this Saudi Arabia Grand Prix and I think Red Bull has fastest formula car this season.
I think Fernando Alonso canmake good result this time and take advantage of Leclerc serving grid penalty.
Lewis Hamilton is big unknown for me, but I expect to see him in one of the top five positions.
 
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Don't forget to put in your predictions for the Saudi Arabia Grand Prix this weekend.

I already did and after seeing the Friday 2 sessions of free practice it is clear that Redbull will continue to dominate again in this race if all race conditions are normal (no crash,no Safety Car or Virtual Safety Car) they are going to win this one too,Verstappen has already topped the two free practices and Alonso is right there,no improvement at least in these free practices from Ferrari or Mercedes.It may be going to a really boring race for us fans of F1 as most likely Redbull will dominate from start to end but at least we have this pool here to keep our emotions high because we route for every driver that we place in the top 10.
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Don't forget to put in your predictions for the Saudi Arabia Grand Prix this weekend.
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^ Chinese steel from the 80s is apparently better than the ones used these days, from all the videos I've been seeing, including concrete actually haha.

But apparently most of it is now used in Asia and Africa, I suppose time will tell.

But on topic, I have to say I feel more and more weirded out reading about Ferrari. How does a champion go down so fast? It feels not so much about Red Bull catching up and moving ahead but more like them actually going down.

Very confused by everything in terms of "construction".

Even McLaren has gone down very fast after becoming Champions in 2008 for the last time,it took them 5 years up to 2013 to screw it up completely and they are still not figuring it out,so that is a lot of years in vain trying to make the perfect car,it is funny how they switched from Honda to Mercedes and they are seeing now that Honda is winning Championships,patience is all that is needed with Japanese premium brands like Honda as in the long run they have always sorted it out.

Today we have the free practices,do not forget to watch them everyone to have a clear insight of the cars,I know almost nothing has changed but who knows how hard the runners up teams have worked in their cars so we can see some surprise results today.

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^ Chinese steel from the 80s is apparently better than the ones used these days, from all the videos I've been seeing, including concrete actually haha.

But apparently most of it is now used in Asia and Africa, I suppose time will tell.

But on topic, I have to say I feel more and more weirded out reading about Ferrari. How does a champion go down so fast? It feels not so much about Red Bull catching up and moving ahead but more like them actually going down.

Very confused by everything in terms of "construction".
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Alonso will be driving worry free and this greatly enhances his chances to get to top three,let's not forget that he was hit from behind from his team mate in the first race and he still did an awesome race,I hope here the track permit for better race starts and as such I am thinking to bet on him to be on the podium,his odds in pre race should be good enough.

odds on Alonso to finish on podium are @1.8, which is solid value, but one should bear in mind that he has 2 podiums in last nine years
not saying that he is not going to end-up in top three, it is just that it is far from secure

interesting enough is that Sainz is fifth in row to finish on podium, but second to finish into top6, so no expects from him to shine, but he is a reliable to finish race into top6, probably based on last season results, he always finish (and then he is into first 6), but rarely catch podium (4,5,6 are his places)


Yes but thath its because they know Sainz has to follow orders team, so they can said to him to let Leclerc pass and plus they know Red Bull its ahead, you have here 3 position lost.

And he is a really good second driver but he lack that extra to be a real champion. Here in Argentina we can say he its more like a Reuteman than a Fangio.
(Fun fact: Reuteman daughters are fighting to give his father the world title after one declaration of Eccleston saying they robbed him basically).

About Alonso podium, he have the level and have a good car, but we see Ferrari its a little more better than Aston and if they dont have problem Leclerc can easily go ahead of him, but with this sanction against Leclerc we can see a better chance for Alonso.

About Ferrari engines.... i dont know what to think, are they using chinese steel from the 80?
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It is a dick move but nothing you can really do about it.
I totally agree here but after all, he can still change his opinion and pay the lousy 2 mBTC participation fee. By refusing to pay that fee, it would result in much more damage for him and I'm sure leading pool organizers and sponsors will keep it in mind (in a negative way), since Sportsbet.io already sent out free bets, too, from what I've noticed.
Formula 1 season is very long (over 20 races) and even for the first race, we have seen a wide range of points, which makes it easy for current backmarkers in our Pool to catch up even only in a few races.
After all, I hope he will change his opinion, pay the fee and stick to his initial decision to participate here.



odds on Alonso to finish on podium are @1.8, which is solid value, but one should bear in mind that he has 2 podiums in last nine years
not saying that he is not going to end-up in top three, it is just that it is far from secure
I've seen a report that Leclerc will need to take an engine penalty in Jeddah.
After his DNF in Bahrain, some parts of his engine seemed to be damaged and Ferrari has to replace it already the second time:

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Having spent the last week analyzing and better understanding these failures, team principal Fred Vasseur has told members of the media – including formu1a.uno – that Leclerc will take an engine penalty this weekend:

“Over Sunday, we had two different issues. The first one was on Sunday morning when we did the fire-up, and the second one [was] in the race. Unfortunately, it was both times the control unit. It’s something that we never experienced in the past, and I hope now it’s under control, that we have a deep analysis of this. But unfortunately, we will have to take the penalty in Jeddah because we have a new pool of control units for the season.”

With only two control electronics permitted throughout the season, there were immediate concerns after Bahrain that a grid penalty was possible.

Leclerc’s penalty will take a 10-place grid drop for a change to his CE (control electronics), meaning his Sunday could be a race of damage limitation.
https://www.formu1a.uno/en/charles-leclerc-to-receive-grid-penalty-at-saudi-gp/

So, most likely 10 places grid penalty incoming for Leclerc.  Roll Eyes
It's a track, where overtaking is possible and a Safety Car can also change a lot but a podium seems unlikely for Leclerc...
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Alonso will be driving worry free and this greatly enhances his chances to get to top three,let's not forget that he was hit from behind from his team mate in the first race and he still did an awesome race,I hope here the track permit for better race starts and as such I am thinking to bet on him to be on the podium,his odds in pre race should be good enough.

odds on Alonso to finish on podium are @1.8, which is solid value, but one should bear in mind that he has 2 podiums in last nine years
not saying that he is not going to end-up in top three, it is just that it is far from secure

interesting enough is that Sainz is fifth in row to finish on podium, but second to finish into top6, so no expects from him to shine, but he is a reliable to finish race into top6, probably based on last season results, he always finish (and then he is into first 6), but rarely catch podium (4,5,6 are his places)
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Alonso is still going to make top 3 I think, and that is how I answered my BSFL, top tip for casperBGD I don't mind to share because who knows maybe I'm lying Wink

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honestly, not sure about Alonso, I am glad to see him on podium after a while, and Aston Martin is good one this one, even Stroll was good in Bahrain
but will decide on that on a flip, odds suggest that Alonso should finish on podium, and my intuition says that he will not

all depends on Ferrari, if they drive as expected, it is hard to expect that Alonso will finish above both of them, and Red Bull is a bit better of all


Alonso and Aston Martin overall could look good in the races before F1 goes to Europe.  That's around 5 - 6 races or so.  It's when they get to Monaco is when the teams have had enough time knowing their cars more and knowing the needed tweaks with their set ups.  I wouldn't count out Mercedes just yet even tho there are rumors that Hamilton is disenchanted with his team and could do a Schumacher and join Ferrari.  Hamilton has a nose for knowing which team is going to do well in the future just as he did with Mercedes.  At the time, almost everybody thought it was a huge risk for him to leave McLaren and join Mercedes.

Ferrari is the least of my worries during the race of Saudi Arabia,they are going to suffer heavily from tire degradation here,if they suffered at the first race which is slightly a less demanding track than this one,in here it is going to be the same thing again,of course if Leclerc bravery can bring them to third place it will be thanks only to the driver skill but I highly doubt that Leclerc can do as well as he did last time around here where he fought for victory.

Alonso will be driving worry free and this greatly enhances his chances to get to top three,let's not forget that he was hit from behind from his team mate in the first race and he still did an awesome race,I hope here the track permit for better race starts and as such I am thinking to bet on him to be on the podium,his odds in pre race should be good enough.
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Alonso is still going to make top 3 I think, and that is how I answered my BSFL, top tip for casperBGD I don't mind to share because who knows maybe I'm lying Wink

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honestly, not sure about Alonso, I am glad to see him on podium after a while, and Aston Martin is good one this one, even Stroll was good in Bahrain
but will decide on that on a flip, odds suggest that Alonso should finish on podium, and my intuition says that he will not

all depends on Ferrari, if they drive as expected, it is hard to expect that Alonso will finish above both of them, and Red Bull is a bit better of all


Alonso and Aston Martin overall could look good in the races before F1 goes to Europe.  That's around 5 - 6 races or so.  It's when they get to Monaco is when the teams have had enough time knowing their cars more and knowing the needed tweaks with their set ups.  I wouldn't count out Mercedes just yet even tho there are rumors that Hamilton is disenchanted with his team and could do a Schumacher and join Ferrari.  Hamilton has a nose for knowing which team is going to do well in the future just as he did with Mercedes.  At the time, almost everybody thought it was a huge risk for him to leave McLaren and join Mercedes.
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