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Quote from: Trofo on November 30, 2024, 03:58:44 PM

Damn, didn't even see the result until now. I was thinking what are you writing about and then I check and I see they managed to lose against Las Palmas at home. Really unexpected despite all the players missing. Barca should have done more while Real is in the slums, they will get better sooner than later.

Ya Flick was right when he said 3 games ago no way they are title favorites. Real stutters, all teams do. The problem is when they get back on track they are unstoppable and if we keep dropping points like this, we are not going to be even close in February.

Trust me even in Champions League they are not worried. 24th means nothing because its just an extra playoff game, which they'll win. Then Vini and everyone get fit and its all over for everyone.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 30, 2024, 09:47:05 AM

Holy shit Barca what is wrong with you man!! 10 minutes left plus plus and we now have to chase 1 goal just to rescue 1 point.

I think Real will be the happiest people on the planet after this, so I hope a miracle happens. Very unlucky so far as we had tons more shots, but only if the ball hits the net at the back will it count. Praying for Lewandowski.

Damn, didn't even see the result until now. I was thinking what are you writing about and then I check and I see they managed to lose against Las Palmas at home. Really unexpected despite all the players missing. Barca should have done more while Real is in the slums, they will get better sooner than later.

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Holy shit Barca what is wrong with you man!! 10 minutes left plus plus and we now have to chase 1 goal just to rescue 1 point.

I think Real will be the happiest people on the planet after this, so I hope a miracle happens. Very unlucky so far as we had tons more shots, but only if the ball hits the net at the back will it count. Praying for Lewandowski.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 25, 2024, 10:32:34 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on November 25, 2024, 06:23:25 AM

Good luck in Liverpool Wink

Hmm... believe it or not, I was just thinking today that Liverpool should play Real with their second team to be as ready as possible to play City and give them a knockout blow. I don't think City can make up for the 11 points deficit. Liverpool have their biggest Premier League game of the season right now, if there's anyone sensible there they'll be focusing on the City game rather than the Real game. So I don't think Liverpool will distract Real Madrid from La Liga.

Wow. I did NOT think about this.

And you know what. Slot is just the kind of manager who would do this. Klopp will IIRC always play his best team available against Real, no matter what. But Slot is the real Football Manager we are all, who would only play for maximum optimal performance.

This totally makes me want to bet on Real now!!

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 25, 2024, 06:23:25 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 24, 2024, 01:06:04 PM

And considering that Real Madrid have games in their pocket against obvious underdogs, that's what should happen. In the end, 1 point doesn't mean anything when there's a head-to-head match ahead. But isn't that great (I'm a Real Madrid fan, hehe)? Plus it seems to me that if Real leaves the adaptation phase, Barcelona will most likely have problems keeping up with Real's pace rather than the other way around. I agree with Flick.

Well one was easily won, now one more left. And the deathtrap scenario will be activated.

The only thing I have hope for now is Liverpool beat Real Madrid, making Champions League the bigger priority and hopefully save some players for that, and sacrifice La Liga Tongue

Its great for sure, I'm glad you're a fan of them, and I'm Barca, so we always have one winner and lose.

Good luck in Liverpool Wink

Hmm... believe it or not, I was just thinking today that Liverpool should play Real with their second team to be as ready as possible to play City and give them a knockout blow. I don't think City can make up for the 11 points deficit. Liverpool have their biggest Premier League game of the season right now, if there's anyone sensible there they'll be focusing on the City game rather than the Real game. So I don't think Liverpool will distract Real Madrid from La Liga.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 24, 2024, 01:06:04 PM

And considering that Real Madrid have games in their pocket against obvious underdogs, that's what should happen. In the end, 1 point doesn't mean anything when there's a head-to-head match ahead. But isn't that great (I'm a Real Madrid fan, hehe)? Plus it seems to me that if Real leaves the adaptation phase, Barcelona will most likely have problems keeping up with Real's pace rather than the other way around. I agree with Flick.

Well one was easily won, now one more left. And the deathtrap scenario will be activated.

The only thing I have hope for now is Liverpool beat Real Madrid, making Champions League the bigger priority and hopefully save some players for that, and sacrifice La Liga Tongue

Its great for sure, I'm glad you're a fan of them, and I'm Barca, so we always have one winner and lose.

Good luck in Liverpool Wink

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 24, 2024, 09:20:53 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 23, 2024, 12:53:31 PM

I also say this - if a football player from whom an agent receives money loses his health = the agent loses money. This is literally what I'm talking about - a footballer and his parents/agent have one single asset and they treat this asset extremely carelessly. I see rare exceptions - for example Mbappe's mother, who squeezes the maximum amount of money out of the "Mbappe" brand and defends his interests.

This is classic example of that old story about the Goose that laid the Golden eggs.

Unfortunately some people think the goose if you open it has eggs inside. And they want all of it right now. Despite the logic that if you keep the goose alive and healthy it gives you golden eggs the whole lifetime.

Anyway, stupid Barca. 15 minutes to go and you get a player sent off, and concede to drop 2 points.

Now Real just needs to win both games in hands, and they are only behind us 1 point. Flick was right, we're not favorites yet.

And considering that Real Madrid have games in their pocket against obvious underdogs, that's what should happen. In the end, 1 point doesn't mean anything when there's a head-to-head match ahead. But isn't that great (I'm a Real Madrid fan, hehe)? Plus it seems to me that if Real leaves the adaptation phase, Barcelona will most likely have problems keeping up with Real's pace rather than the other way around. I agree with Flick.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 24, 2024, 09:20:53 AM

Anyway, stupid Barca. 15 minutes to go and you get a player sent off, and concede to drop 2 points.

Now Real just needs to win both games in hands, and they are only behind us 1 point. Flick was right, we're not favorites yet.

With 20 minutes remaining it looked that Celta isn't capable to make an comeback. But then worst 5 minutes in Bacelona season happened. Actually, I think we should be thankful to referee that we didn't ended with 10 players after 45 minutes. In the end of 1st half Martin fouled on Aspas and I'm not really sure how it's not 2nd yellow card.
Main game of this round is Basque derby between Athletic and Real Sociedad, going to watch it. Real is going to Leganes, don't believe that they will have problems.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 23, 2024, 12:53:31 PM

I also say this - if a football player from whom an agent receives money loses his health = the agent loses money. This is literally what I'm talking about - a footballer and his parents/agent have one single asset and they treat this asset extremely carelessly. I see rare exceptions - for example Mbappe's mother, who squeezes the maximum amount of money out of the "Mbappe" brand and defends his interests.

This is classic example of that old story about the Goose that laid the Golden eggs.

Unfortunately some people think the goose if you open it has eggs inside. And they want all of it right now. Despite the logic that if you keep the goose alive and healthy it gives you golden eggs the whole lifetime.

Anyway, stupid Barca. 15 minutes to go and you get a player sent off, and concede to drop 2 points.

Now Real just needs to win both games in hands, and they are only behind us 1 point. Flick was right, we're not favorites yet.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 23, 2024, 09:17:00 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 22, 2024, 01:22:28 PM

It seems to me that the word "kids" is not appropriate here.
Many of them are surrounded by agents and million-dollar contracts even before their professional careers begin. But if they lose their health, no one will need them. I don't understand why they are so lax in protecting their only asset. By the way, if we are not talking about top football players, then for all ordinary football players, even from the top leagues, the loss of health will mean a fall to the level of ordinary people who have to go to work.

Kids has nothing to do with their status, you can be a rich ass prince in Saudi or a poor street rat, you will have the same mentality and maturity if your brain is not developed. Its just scientific fact.

In fact, the street rat is more worldly wise, if you live in a rich bubble of football your choices are even worse from influence of everyone around you.

This is why I say its their agents and parents and coaches who have to be the one to guide them in their youth.

I also say this - if a football player from whom an agent receives money loses his health = the agent loses money. This is literally what I'm talking about - a footballer and his parents/agent have one single asset and they treat this asset extremely carelessly. I see rare exceptions - for example Mbappe's mother, who squeezes the maximum amount of money out of the "Mbappe" brand and defends his interests.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 22, 2024, 01:22:28 PM

It seems to me that the word "kids" is not appropriate here.
Many of them are surrounded by agents and million-dollar contracts even before their professional careers begin. But if they lose their health, no one will need them. I don't understand why they are so lax in protecting their only asset. By the way, if we are not talking about top football players, then for all ordinary football players, even from the top leagues, the loss of health will mean a fall to the level of ordinary people who have to go to work.

Kids has nothing to do with their status, you can be a rich ass prince in Saudi or a poor street rat, you will have the same mentality and maturity if your brain is not developed. Its just scientific fact.

In fact, the street rat is more worldly wise, if you live in a rich bubble of football your choices are even worse from influence of everyone around you.

This is why I say its their agents and parents and coaches who have to be the one to guide them in their youth.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 22, 2024, 06:06:20 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 21, 2024, 03:56:57 PM

Footballers should just start ignoring garbage games (and maybe even all games under the auspices of FIFA). This is the only way to achieve results, negotiations with officials are useless as long as the officials are getting money. A strike will immediately close the money tap and I am sure a solution will be found as quickly as possible.
In general, I am surprised that professional footballers who have money, serious media influence (plus they have their own trade union) do not care about their health/interests.

Coaches and managers for young kids take his responsibility. Kids are young and dumb and want to play every game to impress their GFs. Flick should be saying Yamal is injured, not ready. Refuse it. Pick up the phone to Fuente and tell him sorry, World Cup maybe, EURO maybe, but fk NL.

It seems to me that the word "kids" is not appropriate here.
Many of them are surrounded by agents and million-dollar contracts even before their professional careers begin. But if they lose their health, no one will need them. I don't understand why they are so lax in protecting their only asset. By the way, if we are not talking about top football players, then for all ordinary football players, even from the top leagues, the loss of health will mean a fall to the level of ordinary people who have to go to work.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 21, 2024, 02:58:40 PM

Quote from: slaman29 on November 21, 2024, 08:35:08 AM

Bad news for Barca, Yamal injury worse than we thought. Honestly, I am totally fed up with this. We have a great academy but our young kids are broken before they are even mid 20s. SMH

Young players shouldn't be allowed to play that many games in the season. It is the same story every time, kid starts to perform great for Barca he plays full minutes there than he gets called to Spanish National team and plays full minutes there as well. In Pedri case, poor guy, played first under 21 tournament and than for seniors.

Those kids are still developing and using them that much leaves the consequences. There is also mental component and if they aren't 100% on the ground there is high chance something goes wrong with the lifestyle. And what 17 year old is able to take his that seriously? Hell, Jamal is probably playing football with his mates as well Grin

Yes and you think after many examples the responsible mature adults should take note. Pedri is a horror story of young talent, and still they treat him fully like a machine, if its broken send for repair and use again to the max.

I remember 20 years ago even Alex Ferguson said Rooney must be taken care of and protected. People didn't see and learn from that? 17 year old, 21 year old, they must be guided, mentally like you said we must expect them to make bad choices if they are too 'free'. I mean lol even Rashford is still partying at his age what more kids.

Quote from: KTChampions on November 21, 2024, 03:56:57 PM

Footballers should just start ignoring garbage games (and maybe even all games under the auspices of FIFA). This is the only way to achieve results, negotiations with officials are useless as long as the officials are getting money. A strike will immediately close the money tap and I am sure a solution will be found as quickly as possible.
In general, I am surprised that professional footballers who have money, serious media influence (plus they have their own trade union) do not care about their health/interests.

Coaches and managers for young kids take his responsibility. Kids are young and dumb and want to play every game to impress their GFs. Flick should be saying Yamal is injured, not ready. Refuse it. Pick up the phone to Fuente and tell him sorry, World Cup maybe, EURO maybe, but fk NL.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 21, 2024, 08:35:08 AM

Bad news for Barca, Yamal injury worse than we thought. Honestly, I am totally fed up with this. We have a great academy but our young kids are broken before they are even mid 20s. SMH

On the plus side, no more Atletico game in USA. So relieved. And with some rumors going about on FIFA gonna get sued for exerting players too much, this is a good thing.

Bring football back to normal!!

Footballers should just start ignoring garbage games (and maybe even all games under the auspices of FIFA). This is the only way to achieve results, negotiations with officials are useless as long as the officials are getting money. A strike will immediately close the money tap and I am sure a solution will be found as quickly as possible.
In general, I am surprised that professional footballers who have money, serious media influence (plus they have their own trade union) do not care about their health/interests.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 21, 2024, 02:58:40 PM

Young players shouldn't be allowed to play that many games in the season. It is the same story every time, kid starts to perform great for Barca he plays full minutes there than he gets called to Spanish National team and plays full minutes there as well. In Pedri case, poor guy, played first under 21 tournament and than for seniors.

Those kids are still developing and using them that much leaves the consequences. There is also mental component and if they aren't 100% on the ground there is high chance something goes wrong with the lifestyle. And what 17 year old is able to take his that seriously? Hell, Jamal is probably playing football with his mates as well Grin

Yeah, I had fears that such thing can happen to Yamal. Barca have so many young talent and it's shame that they didn't learn from Ansu Fati or Pedri stories. Look, Yamal and Cubarsi played most minutes from all U21 players
https://www.transfermarkt.com/yamal-bellingham-amp-yildiz-included-which-u21-stars-have-played-most-minutes-this-season-/view/news/446486

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 21, 2024, 08:35:08 AM

Bad news for Barca, Yamal injury worse than we thought. Honestly, I am totally fed up with this. We have a great academy but our young kids are broken before they are even mid 20s. SMH

Young players shouldn't be allowed to play that many games in the season. It is the same story every time, kid starts to perform great for Barca he plays full minutes there than he gets called to Spanish National team and plays full minutes there as well. In Pedri case, poor guy, played first under 21 tournament and than for seniors.

Those kids are still developing and using them that much leaves the consequences. There is also mental component and if they aren't 100% on the ground there is high chance something goes wrong with the lifestyle. And what 17 year old is able to take his that seriously? Hell, Jamal is probably playing football with his mates as well Grin

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Bad news for Barca, Yamal injury worse than we thought. Honestly, I am totally fed up with this. We have a great academy but our young kids are broken before they are even mid 20s. SMH

On the plus side, no more Atletico game in USA. So relieved. And with some rumors going about on FIFA gonna get sued for exerting players too much, this is a good thing.

Bring football back to normal!!

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 14, 2024, 09:37:09 AM

Quote from: Lida93 on November 13, 2024, 12:06:28 PM

I think it was a very complicated situation for officials and I can't really blame them for the decision they took even if in my own opinion I feel it was a wrong decision but based on the numerous offside rules that are currently in play and may soon be removed the next season it becomes more confusing to tell when a referee is making the right decision or not and at such you wouldn't know if they should be sanctioned or not.

I agree. Even as a Barca fan and even as I said previously, that the tiny small margins should always be given benefit of doubt to the attacker. It is a tough call to make, but especially if there is doubt, and 50/50, you should actually award the on field referee decision first of all. Remember, all these things are assistants, referee is always the first call, IMO.

But enough about it, lets get on with it. We don't need VAR to cloud our game. Hope Flick keeps his head on and not lose it like Xavi. The goal wouldn't have guaranteed we won or even got 1 point anyway.

I believe Hansi Flick would have gotten over those dramas, he seems like a very gentleman to me and I like the way he handles issue of this sort unlike how the likes of Jose Mourinho, and I know he wouldn't let what happened against Real sociedad affect the psychology of his players and that's why he hasn't issued any negative statements about the referees ever since and am quite impressed with his sense of humour.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 13, 2024, 12:06:28 PM

I think it was a very complicated situation for officials and I can't really blame them for the decision they took even if in my own opinion I feel it was a wrong decision but based on the numerous offside rules that are currently in play and may soon be removed the next season it becomes more confusing to tell when a referee is making the right decision or not and at such you wouldn't know if they should be sanctioned or not.

I agree. Even as a Barca fan and even as I said previously, that the tiny small margins should always be given benefit of doubt to the attacker. It is a tough call to make, but especially if there is doubt, and 50/50, you should actually award the on field referee decision first of all. Remember, all these things are assistants, referee is always the first call, IMO.

But enough about it, lets get on with it. We don't need VAR to cloud our game. Hope Flick keeps his head on and not lose it like Xavi. The goal wouldn't have guaranteed we won or even got 1 point anyway.

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