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Quote from: darxiaomi on October 28, 2022, 06:21:30 PM

I saw the last ten minutes of Mallorca Espanyol, and come man, it was a clear penalty in favour of Mallorca, de VAR see the play and didnt call the referee to call the penalty.

It can be the 2-1 for Mallorca and an exact score for me to try to exit from the bottom, but not happen in that way and ends 1-1.

Yeah, count me in among the losers thinking Mallorca had this in the bag.

I might be wrong but there seems to be an early season case against the refereeing in La Liga, and that includes the VAR. Villareal's Baena getting sent off for a tribute tops the cake and I know every league has controversy but wonder if Spain should start looking into this.

Meanwhile, however well done to the bastards who got the draw, and hats off to Fmbetbru for being the only one not getting fooled by Atletico, really sorry Sobrino spoiled it for you man!

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I saw the last ten minutes of Mallorca Espanyol, and come man, it was a clear penalty in favour of Mallorca, de VAR see the play and didnt call the referee to call the penalty.

It can be the 2-1 for Mallorca and an exact score for me to try to exit from the bottom, but not happen in that way and ends 1-1.

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Quote from: Trofo on October 28, 2022, 04:47:35 AM

It isn't actually for me as much as hard data to present to someone next year when recruiting for pools. I am spending that much on daily bets usually so it doesn't really make much of a difference to my ROI in the end but still I wanted to measure it properly.

I get those free bets and usually just squander them on some x100 odds and forget about them. This way I will remember that part.

I also had idea to make spreadsheet with data from all my pools - how much money I put into it, how much won or lost and how much I got for winning yellow caps. Haven't found time so far, but I'll try to do it over the weekend. As you said, it's not big money, especially considering that's whole season, but it's just interesting to see actual, not estimate numbers.
And yeah, I'm not good at spending these free bets. Not that I use it on x100 odds, but still I usually lose it.

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 28, 2022, 08:36:57 AM

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Without data even, however, ROI is extremely good, particularly because it is skill based, with plenty of chances to win even if you don't end up making season prize.

not just skills based, there is luck as well, especially with yellow caps
even putting all surprises, one round will put you in the lead, due to several unexpected results, and with 38 rounds and less than half participants, it is really hard to expect to miss one-two yellow caps per season

back to round, two interesting duels in Bask country, Bilbao vs Villareal and Sociedad is facing Betis

overall, big derby for us, Barca is coming after Europa league embraced them, maybe we can punch one shaky win this weekend

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Good luck on that hard data! Definitely hope it convinces new faces to hop on.

Without data even, however, ROI is extremely good, particularly because it is skill based, with plenty of chances to win even if you don't end up making season prize.

I think the pools boil down to interest mainly. Admission fee is hardly anything considering almost every poster is earning at least that much a week from campaigns. I understand fully those who feel they cannot play all the pools, I do not get those who aren't in any yet claim so much interest by posting in threads.

Well, okay, I get them, but prefer not to accuse them of anything heh heh.

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 28, 2022, 03:25:32 AM

Good idea for spreadsheet, but I guess I actually dump about 10 mbtc into pools and consider that an immediate loss. Less in past seasons as there weren't so many pools, and then counting the sponsorships I've probably put myself into a nice hole BUT I consider all these as one-off expenses for season long entertainment, so no biggie heh.

Don't forget first picks tonight Wink

It isn't actually for me as much as hard data to present to someone next year when recruiting for pools. I am spending that much on daily bets usually so it doesn't really make much of a difference to my ROI in the end but still I wanted to measure it properly.

I get those free bets and usually just squander them on some x100 odds and forget about them. This way I will remember that part.

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Good idea for spreadsheet, but I guess I actually dump about 10 mbtc into pools and consider that an immediate loss. Less in past seasons as there weren't so many pools, and then counting the sponsorships I've probably put myself into a nice hole BUT I consider all these as one-off expenses for season long entertainment, so no biggie heh.

Don't forget first picks tonight Wink

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Quote from: Trofo on October 25, 2022, 10:28:47 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 25, 2022, 10:12:39 AM

Congrats on the yellow cap! Wink

It turned out almost the way you wanted. Aidu's goal in the 89th minute allowed you to be ahead by 3 points at once against all those who were on a par until the very last match. Quite unexpectedly that only you guessed to predict the score 1-1 in this game (apparently, this score is the most popular among bookmakers, based on the odds they offer).

Ha my first one in I don't know how long in the pools I am running, this is going to the spreadsheet immediately since I am actually keeping scores of how much I spent on the pools and how much I got from them. That way I hope to prove that even mediocre performance with entries in multiple pools almost has to work out a net positive for the player.

Now it is time to enter picks and get Yellow Cap in Champions League as well.

Wow, you have a meticulous approach. I think that, taking into account sponsors, the profitability of pools is obvious - this is not a game with a negative/zero sum, but a struggle for bonuses. If we assume that on average everyone has the same chances (I think it is), then on average everyone should receive a refund of their contribution + part of sponsorship money.
Yesterday in the Champions League knocked me down - I don't really like games when clubs have either little or no motivation. Too many randoms.

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Quote from: Trofo on October 25, 2022, 10:28:47 AM

~snip
That way I hope to prove that even mediocre performance with entries in multiple pools almost has to work out a net positive for the player.

Now it is time to enter picks and get Yellow Cap in Champions League as well.

it is fun and enjoying, and that is always net positive

one more disappointing La Liga round for me, Valencia broken down, and I am closer to down than upper area in this round, nevertheless, still in top10

hopefully, CL round will be better, Sevilla started with a breakdown, first scored in 90+1 to have exact 2:0, and then scored one more for 3:0, just to have me on same close score as on 1:0
nevertheless, put them on parlay live in second half, solid odds @1.8 to win

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 25, 2022, 10:12:39 AM

Quote from: Trofo on October 23, 2022, 03:31:57 PM

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Very tight at the top of the table in battle for yellow cap this week, please forget to put your picks tomorrow that is my only chance to get something back from this pool Grin

Congrats on the yellow cap! Wink

It turned out almost the way you wanted. Aidu's goal in the 89th minute allowed you to be ahead by 3 points at once against all those who were on a par until the very last match. Quite unexpectedly that only you guessed to predict the score 1-1 in this game (apparently, this score is the most popular among bookmakers, based on the odds they offer).

Ha my first one in I don't know how long in the pools I am running, this is going to the spreadsheet immediately since I am actually keeping scores of how much I spent on the pools and how much I got from them. That way I hope to prove that even mediocre performance with entries in multiple pools almost has to work out a net positive for the player.

Now it is time to enter picks and get Yellow Cap in Champions League as well.

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Quote from: Trofo on October 23, 2022, 03:31:57 PM

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Very tight at the top of the table in battle for yellow cap this week, please forget to put your picks tomorrow that is my only chance to get something back from this pool Grin

Congrats on the yellow cap! Wink

It turned out almost the way you wanted. Aidu's goal in the 89th minute allowed you to be ahead by 3 points at once against all those who were on a par until the very last match. Quite unexpectedly that only you guessed to predict the score 1-1 in this game (apparently, this score is the most popular among bookmakers, based on the odds they offer).

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Interesting news that Unai Emery leaves Villarreal and joins Aston Villa. It's bad news for submarines and interesting who will become their next coach.
BTW, where is my well deserved wooden spoon? I'm keep falling and this round I'm in good company in the bottom with @icopress and @tomahawk9. And who is @FmbetBru?

Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 24, 2022, 07:35:29 AM

Did you guys notice that Superbru doesn't have round 13 and round 14 available? is it just me or what?

Yeah, I also don't see it. I would predict that it's related with World Cup break, but 13 and 14 rounds will be played before it. In other leagues all 38 rounds is available, maybe they will upload further La Liga rounds too later.

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Quote from: Trofo on October 24, 2022, 12:28:22 PM

Quote from: darxiaomi on October 24, 2022, 11:12:39 AM

I cant belive this Barcelona its again going to play the Europa League.

Lewandowsky its playing exceptional, in some plays i think even better than before in the Bayern Munich. He is mading some "golazos" every game.

For anyone who play soccer knows that, how he turns and shoot and make the defender pass away in only one movement its really impresive.

This Barca side looks incredible when everything clicks into the place, they are playing free flowing football and scoring almost at will. But there is also other side to this Barca and that is defensive fragility and no real way to turn the game back to their side after falling behind. We have seen that best in CL, Barca is good and making chances, very unlucky not to score and then opponents punish them and Barca disappears from he pitch.

This Barca side has a lot of potential but they are still not ready for competition like CL, maybe EL is more in their range.

That's the fact I've actually been trying to emphasize since the beginning of this season, there's definitely room for improvements in certain areas of the team, but they're a beautiful team in progress, I know they're a lot expectations and the results haven't entirely gone in Barca's favor in certain instances.

Getting eliminated early in the UCL was just them being unlucky, because both matches they lost, they should have gotten a point or more from either them and didn't play awfully too, but the team still lack a bit chemistry and the new guys at the heart of defense are struggling with fitness and knocks, but everything in attack and midfield are doing literally quite alright.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on October 24, 2022, 11:12:39 AM

I cant belive this Barcelona its again going to play the Europa League.

Lewandowsky its playing exceptional, in some plays i think even better than before in the Bayern Munich. He is mading some "golazos" every game.

For anyone who play soccer knows that, how he turns and shoot and make the defender pass away in only one movement its really impresive.

This Barca side looks incredible when everything clicks into the place, they are playing free flowing football and scoring almost at will. But there is also other side to this Barca and that is defensive fragility and no real way to turn the game back to their side after falling behind. We have seen that best in CL, Barca is good and making chances, very unlucky not to score and then opponents punish them and Barca disappears from he pitch.

This Barca side has a lot of potential but they are still not ready for competition like CL, maybe EL is more in their range.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 24, 2022, 07:35:29 AM

Did you guys notice that Superbru doesn't have round 13 and round 14 available? is it just me or what?

Maybe I don't know how to use the site (lol) but I can't get access now even to the 12th round. By the way, why do you need 13 and 14 rounds? Do you make predictions that far?

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Quote from: Trofo on October 23, 2022, 03:31:57 PM

Very tight at the top of the table in battle for yellow cap this week, please forget to put your picks tomorrow that is my only chance to get something back from this pool Grin

the leaderboard kind of resembles La Liga league table with two clear favorites at the top and then the rest of the contenders far far behind

Although I am one of the favorites, this is a very small advantage to be happy about. In the Premier League pool a couple of rounds ago there was a much more pronounced leader, and now he is in about 7th place. Everything is changing very quickly.

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I cant belive this Barcelona its again going to play the Europa League.

Lewandowsky its playing exceptional, in some plays i think even better than before in the Bayern Munich. He is mading some "golazos" every game.

For anyone who play soccer knows that, how he turns and shoot and make the defender pass away in only one movement its really impresive.

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Did you guys notice that Superbru doesn't have round 13 and round 14 available? is it just me or what?

Quote from: Trofo on October 23, 2022, 03:31:57 PM

Very tight at the top of the table in battle for yellow cap this week, please forget to put your picks tomorrow that is my only chance to get something back from this pool Grin

the leaderboard kind of resembles La Liga league table with two clear favorites at the top and then the rest of the contenders far far behind

Quote from: buwaytress on October 24, 2022, 03:17:00 AM

That's actually a really good tactic come to think of it. Might even apply it to Premier League with... Spurs? Got so mad watching them play last night until I recalled they're maybe also just trying to lower expectations so fans are actually happy when they qualify for Europa.

Heh, to me Sevilla are the Spurs of La Liga; great team, great players, but shits the bed in the local league, so you might be onto something Cheesy

Quote from: LTU_btc on October 23, 2022, 04:52:10 PM

Sergi Roberto, who had solid match tonight, it seems that he got serious injury.

Yep, out for 1 month. Not what the fans wanted to hear right before the CL game vs Bayern

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 23, 2022, 04:52:10 PM

Did anyone wtched Villarreal - Levante game? If you watched, you had to see interesting moment. Alex Baena were sent of after scoring a goal, it was his second yellow card. He taken of shirt to show message dedicated to club vice president, who passed away. But he didn't even took off shirt fully:
https://twitter.com/footballespana_/status/1584244048428077056
Good that Villarreal won, otherwise there would lot of talk about this referee decision.

Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 23, 2022, 02:54:48 PM

HT and Barcelona already won the match. 3-0 in the span of 10 minutes. Man, Bilbao actually piss and shit their pants in fear when they enter the Camp nou, eh? It's unreal Lips sealed

It's almost same match like against Villarreal, it's a bit strange to beat decent teams so easy. With Barca it doesn't happens that often that they let you to watch 2nd half relaxed. But everything simply can't go well. Sergi Roberto, who had solid match tonight, it seems that he got serious injury.

Agree it was a bit too much for Baena sending off, sometimes you have to understand emotion in football. It's like Neymar getting cards for his celebration, I don't really like him but it's football culture, why need to card guys just showing their love for football?

And Barca yes, strange to see them relax in 2nd half, but I hope they bring their A game to Champions League. We're playing in Europa for sure but I would still like us to go out with a bang!

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Dang. I thought it was risky to ask Barca to score 3 goals, and then they do it all in the first half for the second consecutive game. Still always feel it's weird to predict high scoring games but only get 1 point same as guys who pick 1-0.

Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 23, 2022, 02:54:48 PM

Let's wait until Sevilla reach europa league, that's when we'll feast alright. They'll be in their comfort zone and we'll start making serious bank Grin

That's actually a really good tactic come to think of it. Might even apply it to Premier League with... Spurs? Got so mad watching them play last night until I recalled they're maybe also just trying to lower expectations so fans are actually happy when they qualify for Europa.

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Did anyone wtched Villarreal - Levante game? If you watched, you had to see interesting moment. Alex Baena were sent of after scoring a goal, it was his second yellow card. He taken of shirt to show message dedicated to club vice president, who passed away. But he didn't even took off shirt fully:
https://twitter.com/footballespana_/status/1584244048428077056
Good that Villarreal won, otherwise there would lot of talk about this referee decision.

Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 23, 2022, 02:54:48 PM

HT and Barcelona already won the match. 3-0 in the span of 10 minutes. Man, Bilbao actually piss and shit their pants in fear when they enter the Camp nou, eh? It's unreal Lips sealed

It's almost same match like against Villarreal, it's a bit strange to beat decent teams so easy. With Barca it doesn't happens that often that they let you to watch 2nd half relaxed. But everything simply can't go well. Sergi Roberto, who had solid match tonight, it seems that he got serious injury.

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