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Quote from: tokeweed on October 10, 2023, 07:32:55 AM

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Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

Is that the outrights for winning the league? I'd say the books got it right. City's squad is deep and that will come into play when the other clubs start fading in the final stretch of the season. Remember last year when everybody thought that Arsenal was gonna get the EPL trophy? City just kept at it and won the League, the FA Cup and the UCL. And if anything I'd say gamble on Klopp and Liverpool at that line. They have the grit to push on through. If they could get it together, they could win imho.

There is no reason why we should remember Arsenal as I think Arsenal underestimated their weak opponents during the last stage of the season and they are the first one for me to not repeat them this season at all cost.That is why no matter how deep the City squad is if any team beside Arsenal who is doing well does not underestimate their opponents I would say that the books got it completely wrong this time and I would bet on Arsenal as that 5 odd looks extremely good right now while why would anyone risk such a long season on a 1.73 odd for City I don't get it.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 09, 2023, 03:58:42 AM

What do you think about the quotes?

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

Is that the outrights for winning the league? I'd say the books got it right. City's squad is deep and that will come into play when the other clubs start fading in the final stretch of the season. Remember last year when everybody thought that Arsenal was gonna get the EPL trophy? City just kept at it and won the League, the FA Cup and the UCL. And if anything I'd say gamble on Klopp and Liverpool at that line. They have the grit to push on through. If they could get it together, they could win imho.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2023, 04:56:09 AM

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What do you think about the quotes?

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

Lol at that 1.73 odd for City,what do the bookies think after they have failed miserably to win against Wolves and Arsenal did beat them in the head to head game.For me the most ideal team to bet on would be either Arsenal or either Liverpool which for me are the teams with most chances to win the Premier League season this time.

I know Tottenham has been doing really well too but they are not convincing and they lack the star players these other teams have which in the long run I am highly confident can make a difference and that is why I choose either Liverpool or Arsenal as the most likely winner of the Premier League.

If I remember correctly, before the start of the season when City’s hegemony was undisputed, City’s quotes were approximately 1.7 (or slightly less). Now, after KDB was injured and does not play, after City, after the easiest part of the championship, found themselves only in 3rd place, their quotes have fallen only quite a bit. This seems illogical to me. There are games ahead with direct competitors, and based on the logic of the bookmakers, what should be the odds, for example, for the game City - Liverpool? 1.5 - 3.5 - 6.4? LOL
If so then of course i will bet against City.

If those are the odds then it is logical to bet against them.They are showing signs of weakness in these last two games that they lost in a row and add to them their loss in the cup with Newcastle things does not look well for them.They are lucky that they have 2 weeks time because of International break during this week otherwise I don't know what would have happened next.

For Liverpool though I am quite a bit disappointed as they were winning against Brighton and could not hold up and if they cannot hold up against Brighton then most likely they cannot hold up against City.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 09, 2023, 04:01:55 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 09, 2023, 03:58:42 AM

What do you think about the quotes?

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

Lol at that 1.73 odd for City,what do the bookies think after they have failed miserably to win against Wolves and Arsenal did beat them in the head to head game.For me the most ideal team to bet on would be either Arsenal or either Liverpool which for me are the teams with most chances to win the Premier League season this time.

I know Tottenham has been doing really well too but they are not convincing and they lack the star players these other teams have which in the long run I am highly confident can make a difference and that is why I choose either Liverpool or Arsenal as the most likely winner of the Premier League.

If I remember correctly, before the start of the season when City’s hegemony was undisputed, City’s quotes were approximately 1.7 (or slightly less). Now, after KDB was injured and does not play, after City, after the easiest part of the championship, found themselves only in 3rd place, their quotes have fallen only quite a bit. This seems illogical to me. There are games ahead with direct competitors, and based on the logic of the bookmakers, what should be the odds, for example, for the game City - Liverpool? 1.5 - 3.5 - 6.4? LOL
If so then of course i will bet against City.

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Quote from: arallmuus on October 08, 2023, 07:09:39 AM

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Wasn't Ten Hag part of the cleanup? His "mistake" was setting expectations by winning a cup last season

His mistake for now is probably getting rid of De Gea for a 'build-up' goalkeeper that turns up to be sucks at goalkeeping Roll Eyes

. I gotta give him some credit for that bold decision though but for now Onana sucks but yeah its all part of the clean up and the club must move on from all those glorious past. It takes time but it just feels bad when you see Onana is at the bar not being able to keep any cleansheet whenever the team play

Oh yes, bringing in Onana was a boo boo but he had to gt rid of de Gea, the man was great but he caused way too many mistakes. Onana weirdly too, he wasn't like that before but maybe just early season settling in, I'm sure he gets better.

We shouldn't look at so few games anyway. It is problem for many seasons, many games.

Of all the clubs in Top 6 Arsenal, Brighton and Liverpool look the best for stability. City have the best structure of all but I won't choose them because you need a lot of money to keep it, not all clubs have it. United is far away from those structures.

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If this happens, Kane's transition will look as comical as possible Grin

agree, especially if, by some miracle, Leverkusen make this season big, and take title from Bayern, it will be an event to make meme history out of it

I like Kane but now that you guys say it, I woul like also for this to happen lol

In any league, I want outsuders to win, and club loyals like Son deserve winning something. Reminds me most of Coutinho who came to us to win Champions League, and then his old team beats US 4-0 to win.

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Maybe the absence of KDB is so important.
I paid attention to this: out of 8 games, City had only two serious ones - with Newcastle and with Arsenal. The result of 3 points can hardly be considered successful. There is a killer series of games ahead with much stronger opponents (Brighton - United - Bournemouth - Chelsea - Liverpool - Tottenham - Aston Villa), there is hope that City's gap from the leaders will only increase after this series of games.
By the way, I was really angry that the referee got scared and didn’t send off Kovacic, who earned 1.5 red cards in the first half.

Kovacic should have been red carded in the first position and he didn't even get a yellow card in the second position. After such injustices, I am more happy that Arsenal won. The refereeing in the Premier League this year has been unbelievably bad. We might see something surprising later about this, but let's see. Two defeats last year had cost Arsenal a lot of confidence. Winning this game will reinforce their belief in the title. But if we had the same City squad as last year, Arsenal wouldn't have won again. If Arsenal continue like this, they will win the title this time at the end of the season. They showed once again how much they deserve it.

Yes, this interpretation of the rules infuriates me even more than VAR’s errors in determining offside. The referee could send Kovacic off twice (or rather, he should have done it), but he didn’t. But a sending off at such an early stage obviously has a greater impact on the outcome of the game than even a goal.

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If this happens, Kane's transition will look as comical as possible Grin

agree, especially if, by some miracle, Leverkusen make this season big, and take title from Bayern, it will be an event to make meme history out of it

Yes, this would definitely become a meme and I would even say a tragic meme because even in theory it is very sad: leaving your native club for titles and missing out on the triumph that was so close.

What do you think about the quotes?

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

Lol at that 1.73 odd for City,what do the bookies think after they have failed miserably to win against Wolves and Arsenal did beat them in the head to head game.For me the most ideal team to bet on would be either Arsenal or either Liverpool which for me are the teams with most chances to win the Premier League season this time.

I know Tottenham has been doing really well too but they are not convincing and they lack the star players these other teams have which in the long run I am highly confident can make a difference and that is why I choose either Liverpool or Arsenal as the most likely winner of the Premier League.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 08, 2023, 12:44:49 PM

Maybe the absence of KDB is so important.
I paid attention to this: out of 8 games, City had only two serious ones - with Newcastle and with Arsenal. The result of 3 points can hardly be considered successful. There is a killer series of games ahead with much stronger opponents (Brighton - United - Bournemouth - Chelsea - Liverpool - Tottenham - Aston Villa), there is hope that City's gap from the leaders will only increase after this series of games.
By the way, I was really angry that the referee got scared and didn’t send off Kovacic, who earned 1.5 red cards in the first half.

Kovacic should have been red carded in the first position and he didn't even get a yellow card in the second position. After such injustices, I am more happy that Arsenal won. The refereeing in the Premier League this year has been unbelievably bad. We might see something surprising later about this, but let's see. Two defeats last year had cost Arsenal a lot of confidence. Winning this game will reinforce their belief in the title. But if we had the same City squad as last year, Arsenal wouldn't have won again. If Arsenal continue like this, they will win the title this time at the end of the season. They showed once again how much they deserve it.

Yes, this interpretation of the rules infuriates me even more than VAR’s errors in determining offside. The referee could send Kovacic off twice (or rather, he should have done it), but he didn’t. But a sending off at such an early stage obviously has a greater impact on the outcome of the game than even a goal.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 08, 2023, 02:38:18 PM

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If this happens, Kane's transition will look as comical as possible Grin

agree, especially if, by some miracle, Leverkusen make this season big, and take title from Bayern, it will be an event to make meme history out of it

Yes, this would definitely become a meme and I would even say a tragic meme because even in theory it is very sad: leaving your native club for titles and missing out on the triumph that was so close.

What do you think about the quotes?

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 08, 2023, 02:38:18 PM

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If this happens, Kane's transition will look as comical as possible Grin

agree, especially if, by some miracle, Leverkusen make this season big, and take title from Bayern, it will be an event to make meme history out of it

back to topic, Arsenal winning over City does look as worst outcome for Liverpool, but in the long run it is more likely to see City entering endless winning strike, than Arsenal to hold on top spot, so this looks as better for City to lose all points

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Quote from: buwaytress on October 08, 2023, 01:07:45 PM

Never thought I'd fin myself saying this but thank god for Arsenal or this Super Sunday would be an all-draw affair.

Quite a strange gratitude, because a draw would have been in favor of Liverpool Wink

Quote from: buwaytress on October 08, 2023, 01:07:45 PM

Such a shame the int break is here... would have loved to see City on the ropes.

We can only hope that after the international games the City players will be exhausted and, given the difficult games (as I wrote above), we will see City knocked out.

By the way, let's dream and imagine that Tottenham will take the title. If this happens, Kane's transition will look as comical as possible Grin

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Never thought I'd fin myself saying this but thank god for Arsenal or this Super Sunday would be an all-draw affair.

Watched most of Liverpool and while their defence once more gave the goal away (pundits seem to blame Macallister but I feel like VVD was not entirely blameless?) I guess I should be happy we were pretty neat against a fast pressing team.

Such a shame the int break is here... would have loved to see City on the ropes.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 08, 2023, 12:29:06 PM

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It was the day of draws until Arsenal stepped up on landed a big KO on Man City to win 1-0. Very early on but Man City look weaker than last season. They’ve lost back to back PL games for the first time in 5 yesrs.

On we go to the international break.

big win for Arsenal
it will make championship more interesting and put them into position to fight for it if they continue this way
Liverpool lost important points against Brighton, they should have win this, but now to matches without a win

Aston Villa should never be trusted, always against the odds

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Brighton 2-2 Liverpool
West Ham 2-2 Newcastle
Wolves 1-1 Aston Villa

It was the day of draws until Arsenal stepped up on landed a big KO on Man City to win 1-0. Very early on but Man City look weaker than last season. They’ve lost back to back PL games for the first time in 5 yesrs.

On we go to the international break.

Palace 0 vs 0 Forest

This week there are 4 draw matches and I don't expect a draw in all of them at.

Will Man City's title end? Well, this is the start of the season, maybe Pep's troops can make a comeback.

But Arsenal looks more stable in the PL.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 08, 2023, 12:29:06 PM

Brighton 2-2 Liverpool
West Ham 2-2 Newcastle
Wolves 1-1 Aston Villa

It was the day of draws until Arsenal stepped up on landed a big KO on Man City to win 1-0. Very early on but Man City look weaker than last season. They’ve lost back to back PL games for the first time in 5 yesrs.

On we go to the international break.

Maybe the absence of KDB is so important.
I paid attention to this: out of 8 games, City had only two serious ones - with Newcastle and with Arsenal. The result of 3 points can hardly be considered successful. There is a killer series of games ahead with much stronger opponents (Brighton - United - Bournemouth - Chelsea - Liverpool - Tottenham - Aston Villa), there is hope that City's gap from the leaders will only increase after this series of games.
By the way, I was really angry that the referee got scared and didn’t send off Kovacic, who earned 1.5 red cards in the first half.

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Arsenal got a very important victory for their campaign of continuing being in the fight for the title and I think they should be first in the standings right now while Manchester City is once again showing difficulties when playing against a strong team as they lost to Newcastle I think in the cup while only last week they lost to Wolves,they surely are not the super strong team that came back to win the title like they did last year.

What is the most surprising though is the form of Tottenham that I rarely have seen being so stable for such a long time in the Premier League.I don't think they will continue to be this awesome as they rarely are such consistent but let's see,this time the Premier League is becoming more interesting than ever.

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Brighton 2-2 Liverpool
West Ham 2-2 Newcastle
Wolves 1-1 Aston Villa

It was the day of draws until Arsenal stepped up on landed a big KO on Man City to win 1-0. Very early on but Man City look weaker than last season. They’ve lost back to back PL games for the first time in 5 yesrs.

On we go to the international break.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 08, 2023, 04:57:15 AM

I love VAR - I really think it was needed. Too many important decisions have gone the wrong way to 'Uniteds' of their time in the past, it simply isn't possible with VAR and that is something to compliment.

On the other hand, for the love of God, how can you let an incorrect decision stand just because the rules say when you can overrule and when not? I don't know if you have heard the video - I'm linking it here.
This is in my opinion the mistake of English FA, which has been using VAR way worse than all other countries combined since its inception.

Just listen to this, it really is insane.

As a Liverpool fan, this recording makes me go berserk.

Everyone knows that Manchester United and Alex Ferguson's success were built on corrupt officials, and the club hasn't won a major title since he departed in 2013, despite having more than 5 different coaches and billions of dollars spent on players. vAR has also reduced corruption at Italy (Juventus)and Spain (Barcelona) to a bare minimum.

Isn't it the VAR officials' responsibility to change the score? How could they have missed what was on top of their screen for the full 90 minutes? Shady

Brighton will have a difficult season because they are so awful at closing gaps at the back. Caciodo will be missed greatly.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 08, 2023, 06:10:51 AM

VAR destroys spirit of game. Other tech does not. This is the main difference!

I guess most people will have different opinions on VAR but VAR is going to stay wether people likes it or not. There has been some controversial decision that was changed because of VAR so I doubt that the league is going to start removing it from the game

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I don't get why you'd get sackked at United wgen it's not your fault, same goes for Chelsea. The club needs a cleanup act first, long bfre they start thinking about manager performance. Wasn't Ten Hag part of the cleanup? His "mistake" was setting expectations by winning a cup last season

His mistake for now is probably getting rid of De Gea for a 'build-up' goalkeeper that turns up to be sucks at goalkeeping Roll Eyes

. I gotta give him some credit for that bold decision though but for now Onana sucks but yeah its all part of the clean up and the club must move on from all those glorious past. It takes time but it just feels bad when you see Onana is at the bar not being able to keep any cleansheet whenever the team play

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VAR destroys spirit of game. Other tech does not. This is the main difference!

Quote from: arallmuus on October 07, 2023, 03:16:41 PM

Considering that some players were injured and he is struggling with the rest of the remaining players, I guess he wont be sacked for now. Its going to be a rough season for United but Im still pretty sure that we stand a good chance to get to top 4 again. Its going to be a wild dream to even consider that we are going to win the league so getting to top would be much realistic by this point

I don't get why you'd get sackked at United wgen it's not your fault, same goes for Chelsea. The club needs a cleanup act first, long bfre they start thinking about manager performance. Wasn't Ten Hag part of the cleanup? His "mistake" was setting expectations by winning a cup last season

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I just copied the above bet mate,sounds fun but I am really worried about Napoli form.While for the pool here it looks like they should be 4 money line results that favor the away teams,pretty difficult to come true especially in a league like the Premier League but I have got for that type of prediction in our pool.I was not at all in the top positions now I am just 6 or 7 points away from the 5th place in the pool,it is really funny how super fast things change in this pool.If I don't do well in these remaining games I may as well get to go 20 points down from that 5th place,that's how tight the pool is.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 08, 2023, 04:57:15 AM

Just listen to this, it really is insane.

As a Liverpool fan, this recording makes me go berserk.

When I listened to the VAR records I became really shocked. I have seen many memes related to this on the internet. The one I liked the most is this one:

It is really very funny that this happened after referees praised each other. When it comes to today I'm waiting for Liverpool to win against Brighton. I made a parlay like this. I hope that it wins:

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