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Here's probably how the prizes will be so far:

1st 0.1 (£1,905)
2nd 0.05
3rd 0.04
4th 0.03
5th 0.02
6th 0.015
7th 0.014
8th 0.013
9th 0.012
10th 0.011
11th 0.01
12th 0.0025
13th 0.0025 (£47.60)

= 0.32

For everyone else that joins now I'll probably just add another place each so the more people that join the more prizes there will be and at least you have a shot at winning your money back.





I think there should be a rule that VAR should only be used if there's an offense made that's a red card.  This is very important especially in critical matches that could impact a club's season.  Hand balls, off sides, penalties..  We could do without VAR.  This is just me but I accept the human factor of the gsme by leaving such decisions to the officials.

Anyway, when do we get the pool invite link?  I want to take a peek and look around.  Smiley  Superbru website can be confusing.

Might as well get rid of it all together if that's all it's being used for. I think they should do a similar model as tennis do and each team gets three requests to query VAR. There's absolutely no need to check everything for any sort of infraction especially when nobody is complaining for anything. I've lost count of how many times kick off has been delayed by a minute or two to check a goal can't be disallowed for something and I'm like what the fuck are they checking for. They usually don't find anything either. Nobody cares about offsides being a millimetre off either. Half of the time on the close calls they can't get an accurate angle either as you need a straight line not an obtuse camera angle. VAR is definitely doing more harm than good to the game right now.

The prizes are looking really nice this time with up to the tenth place at 0.01 which is 4x the entry fee plus all the enjoyment we have throughout the year by following Premier League and putting our predictions in.

VAR last year changed so many of our results and up to a certain point since I only missed by a couple of points from the tenth place can say that it ruined my season,hopefully we will have less and less VAR this year and that the VAR should not have as many mistakes as it had last season.
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Here's probably how the prizes will be so far:

1st 0.1 (£1,905)
2nd 0.05
3rd 0.04
4th 0.03
5th 0.02
6th 0.015
7th 0.014
8th 0.013
9th 0.012
10th 0.011
11th 0.01
12th 0.0025
13th 0.0025 (£47.60)

= 0.32

For everyone else that joins now I'll probably just add another place each so the more people that join the more prizes there will be and at least you have a shot at winning your money back.





I think there should be a rule that VAR should only be used if there's an offense made that's a red card.  This is very important especially in critical matches that could impact a club's season.  Hand balls, off sides, penalties..  We could do without VAR.  This is just me but I accept the human factor of the gsme by leaving such decisions to the officials.

Anyway, when do we get the pool invite link?  I want to take a peek and look around.  Smiley  Superbru website can be confusing.

Might as well get rid of it all together if that's all it's being used for. I think they should do a similar model as tennis do and each team gets three requests to query VAR. There's absolutely no need to check everything for any sort of infraction especially when nobody is complaining for anything. I've lost count of how many times kick off has been delayed by a minute or two to check a goal can't be disallowed for something and I'm like what the fuck are they checking for. They usually don't find anything either. Nobody cares about offsides being a millimetre off either. Half of the time on the close calls they can't get an accurate angle either as you need a straight line not an obtuse camera angle. VAR is definitely doing more harm than good to the game right now.
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I think there should be a rule that VAR should only be used if there's an offense made that's a red card.  This is very important especially in critical matches that could impact a club's season.  Hand balls, off sides, penalties..  We could do without VAR.  This is just me but I accept the human factor of the gsme by leaving such decisions to the officials.

Anyway, when do we get the pool invite link?  I want to take a peek and look around.  Smiley  Superbru website can be confusing.

What you listed changes the score in the game (in most cases) and therefore completely changes the whole game. I would not want this to be left to the subjective opinion of the referee. It will be unpleasant for me to watch the game knowing that, for example, the erroneous decision of the referee completely changed its result.



Hello to all members, I also joined the pool. Happy predictions!  Cheesy
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We have 47 people paid for the pool. Only a week to go so lets try to get it at least to 50 and we can add extra places as consolation prizes.

I can already see we will have another bad season with regards to VAR. I can give them long time to react with City goal, it was difficult situation to judge and draw lines but why the hell they needed so much time for Liverpool penalty? It is as clear as it gets and then after quite long time they call main ref to check it by himself. If VAR ref can't call this one, then VAR room does not need ref, just technician to draw the lines.

I don't think it's ref or technical rooms fault in that very occasion, If you ask me, but the first problem was both team players being an utter distraction for the referee, in most cases of handballs or foul in the 12 yard box, the VAR crew probably always have a verdict of their own imo, but the players just need to allow the referee breathing space, it took the referee way less to come to a conclusion after checking the replay, probably around 5 secs or thereabout from him looking at the screen, when it comes to goals being ruled or not for offside that's the VAR team decision to make, but for handballs,  fouls, and red card worthy offences the referee is sole decision maker, VAR crew are just meant to call is attention to it if he didn't make the call at first glance imo, but the team players all ranting at once wouldn't even allow the referee communicate properly with the VAR team. If you look at Matip's low header that looks like it touched his hands some moments before Man City equalised, the VAR probably looked at it and since there probably no contact to his hands, the referee had no reason to come into play, the scenario didn't get replayed all through the end of the game, so It made me pretty sure there was probably nothing to be looked at in that case. More so, the players are always the ones begging the referees to take a look for themselves.

It's getting silly. It's a coin toss as to what is handball these days. It's also really annoying how they delay the kick off after almost every single goal whilst VAR checks every possible parameter they can to possibly disallow it. They need to scrap the ref going over to have a look at the little screen as well. Why do you need him to go over and decide when you've already got several officials watching the game on several big screens? Just let them decide. If they think something is wrong then it's likely the ref will as well.

I think there should be a rule that VAR should only be used if there's an offense made that's a red card.  This is very important especially in critical matches that could impact a club's season.  Hand balls, off sides, penalties..  We could do without VAR.  This is just me but I accept the human factor of the gsme by leaving such decisions to the officials.

Anyway, when do we get the pool invite link?  I want to take a peek and look around.  Smiley  Superbru website can be confusing.
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Another weird shift for me is odds on Forest... generally more favoured at books than the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth.
Haha, The two-time UEFA Champions League winner is up to something this season; they've been making some big moves in the transfer market, with 7 players already signed, and they're on a team overhaul. They have more money to play with than the other two promoted teams because they won the championship play-off(£170m). Tbh, I see them struggling, and starting a new team in the EPL would not bode well for them at first. Let's see, I already like them. They bigger than Spurs and Arsenal in my book.  >: Grin

It's getting silly. It's a coin toss as to what is handball these days. It's also really annoying how they delay the kick off after almost every single goal whilst VAR checks every possible parameter they can to possibly disallow it. They need to scrap the ref going over to have a look at the little screen as well. Why do you need him to go over and decide when you've already got several officials watching the game on several big screens? Just let them decide. If they think something is wrong then it's likely the ref will as well.

What is the point of VAR if the on-field ref still makes the decisive call in every game? VAR implementation has already been defeated. Remove it with a scraper.
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We have 47 people paid for the pool. Only a week to go so lets try to get it at least to 50 and we can add extra places as consolation prizes.

I can already see we will have another bad season with regards to VAR. I can give them long time to react with City goal, it was difficult situation to judge and draw lines but why the hell they needed so much time for Liverpool penalty? It is as clear as it gets and then after quite long time they call main ref to check it by himself. If VAR ref can't call this one, then VAR room does not need ref, just technician to draw the lines.

I don't think it's ref or technical rooms fault in that very occasion, If you ask me, but the first problem was both team players being an utter distraction for the referee, in most cases of handballs or foul in the 12 yard box, the VAR crew probably always have a verdict of their own imo, but the players just need to allow the referee breathing space, it took the referee way less to come to a conclusion after checking the replay, probably around 5 secs or thereabout from him looking at the screen, when it comes to goals being ruled or not for offside that's the VAR team decision to make, but for handballs,  fouls, and red card worthy offences the referee is sole decision maker, VAR crew are just meant to call is attention to it if he didn't make the call at first glance imo, but the team players all ranting at once wouldn't even allow the referee communicate properly with the VAR team. If you look at Matip's low header that looks like it touched his hands some moments before Man City equalised, the VAR probably looked at it and since there probably no contact to his hands, the referee had no reason to come into play, the scenario didn't get replayed all through the end of the game, so It made me pretty sure there was probably nothing to be looked at in that case. More so, the players are always the ones begging the referees to take a look for themselves.

It's getting silly. It's a coin toss as to what is handball these days. It's also really annoying how they delay the kick off after almost every single goal whilst VAR checks every possible parameter they can to possibly disallow it. They need to scrap the ref going over to have a look at the little screen as well. Why do you need him to go over and decide when you've already got several officials watching the game on several big screens? Just let them decide. If they think something is wrong then it's likely the ref will as well.

This I completely agree with, they need to maintain a standard and just go by the book/rules, it the decision is out of the ref's hands then players would not be so all over the ref after every whistle, they should take these decision away from the referee, except the ones he had to call himself from the very first instance, it is going to be very faster if they just communicate the decision to the referee, they made the rules guiding the play but still act as though it's rocket science to follow the rules. You can hardly see any game with less than 4 minutes of added time these days because of the need to review every goal even when it's clear as day from the first glance and no protest whatsoever for the opposing team.
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We have 47 people paid for the pool. Only a week to go so lets try to get it at least to 50 and we can add extra places as consolation prizes.

I can already see we will have another bad season with regards to VAR. I can give them long time to react with City goal, it was difficult situation to judge and draw lines but why the hell they needed so much time for Liverpool penalty? It is as clear as it gets and then after quite long time they call main ref to check it by himself. If VAR ref can't call this one, then VAR room does not need ref, just technician to draw the lines.

I don't think it's ref or technical rooms fault in that very occasion, If you ask me, but the first problem was both team players being an utter distraction for the referee, in most cases of handballs or foul in the 12 yard box, the VAR crew probably always have a verdict of their own imo, but the players just need to allow the referee breathing space, it took the referee way less to come to a conclusion after checking the replay, probably around 5 secs or thereabout from him looking at the screen, when it comes to goals being ruled or not for offside that's the VAR team decision to make, but for handballs,  fouls, and red card worthy offences the referee is sole decision maker, VAR crew are just meant to call is attention to it if he didn't make the call at first glance imo, but the team players all ranting at once wouldn't even allow the referee communicate properly with the VAR team. If you look at Matip's low header that looks like it touched his hands some moments before Man City equalised, the VAR probably looked at it and since there probably no contact to his hands, the referee had no reason to come into play, the scenario didn't get replayed all through the end of the game, so It made me pretty sure there was probably nothing to be looked at in that case. More so, the players are always the ones begging the referees to take a look for themselves.

It's getting silly. It's a coin toss as to what is handball these days. It's also really annoying how they delay the kick off after almost every single goal whilst VAR checks every possible parameter they can to possibly disallow it. They need to scrap the ref going over to have a look at the little screen as well. Why do you need him to go over and decide when you've already got several officials watching the game on several big screens? Just let them decide. If they think something is wrong then it's likely the ref will as well.
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It is quite nice that the pool participants are betting with each other before the season starts. I would also like to put a little money on something if there is anyone interested. I think that Manchester United will complete the season ahead of Arsenal. If there is anyone interested in joining this bet with me, I would be very happy if that person writes the amount in their mind by quoting this post.

I can do that but only for fun meaning the amount to be 0.001 Bitcoin in total.This of course is just to increase the emotions of when we see the games of both Arsenal which I clearly see performing a lot better than Manchester United.

I have put this low amount as I know I will have it when the pool will end,however if you agree we can also increase the bet during the ongoing Premier League season if you want,but that of course most likely will be in your great disadvantage.

It is okay for me and thank you for accepting it. Smiley  My offer is still valid. By the way, I believe that Manchester United will complete the season nicely this year.

Good.I will have something else like to follow what specifically Arsenal does compared to the overall pool.As I said feel free to ask to raise the bet during the ongoing season but as I said Manchester United will go from bad to worse and it is a sure thing that Arsenal will be able to come on top of them at the end of the season  Grin.

Last year Arsenal was 11 points ahead,this year maybe they will be even better but usually when I bet against people I lose,so this should be to your advantage  Grin.
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Slightly agree with Harko that both teams didn't need to delay the ref -- I don't understand how teams still think they can influence a decision (or is it because they actually can?).

But fine, first VAR took a long time because they had to overturn the linesman (I thought it was maybe a foul def not offside). 2nd one, honestly, we've gone way past the need to argue for THAT kind of handball. Consistently, it's a pen, any day, any time.

I know I'm not just whining because it's England, I watch Serie A, La Liga, other tourneys and VAR's usually quick and decisive. 7 minutes injury time when there wasn't any injury. That tells you VAR gonna give us another poor season.

The EPL is full of surprises, and every prediction is 50/50. Last season, Manchester United was the odds-on favorite to win the title, but instead, they finished 6th. You and Trofo were confident that Spurs would finish ahead of Chelsea, so I'm betting as the underdog and am therefore at a disadvantage. Good luck with your wager with Harkorede nonetheless. Grin

Thanks, and good luck to you too... though I have to insist not every prediction is 50/50.

Our confidence in Spurs (the actual underdog at the time) didn't make them the favourites. Odds and probability are, quite literally, evidence for what make a favourite, not confidence!

That said, the odds gap between the two has been slimming... some sites now I notice do put Spurs above Chelsea. Thank pre-season for that.

Another weird shift for me is odds on Forest... generally more favoured at books than the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth.
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Not even close to what you wrote first. That first bet I would take immediately.

I am up for Chelsea to lead the table at the season break or any point after that - No
Season break is defined as the time when league stops for world cup.

That removes possibility of Chelsea winning first 2 games and being top of the table. Or chelsea playing first in the beginning and topping the table before other clubs play.
Nope! I mean, Arsenal didn't make it to the top of the league from the first week until the end of the league; I'm not sure about Tottenham and Manchester United; did they ever top the table at any time last season? The bet is only valid after the first round (after all fixtures) until the end of the season. It's a risky bet but I'm ready to take.

Clearly you didn't read my post. I already said 3/1 odds from the very first post. How's that cheating? Pay attention Wink

Chelsea have more than double percentage (81%) according to odds than Spurs to finish top 4.

They're favoured more than Spurs, so you have the advantage. You're EXPECTED to finish above Spurs. Winning the same amount of money for choosing the favourite, how's that fair?
The EPL is full of surprises, and every prediction is 50/50. Last season, Manchester United was the odds-on favorite to win the title, but instead, they finished 6th. You and Trofo were confident that Spurs would finish ahead of Chelsea, so I'm betting as the underdog and am therefore at a disadvantage. Good luck with your wager with Harkorede nonetheless. Grin


I can already see we will have another bad season with regards to VAR. I can give them long time to react with City goal, it was difficult situation to judge and draw lines but why the hell they needed so much time for Liverpool penalty? It is as clear as it gets and then after quite long time they call main ref to check it by himself. If VAR ref can't call this one, then VAR room does not need ref, just technician to draw the lines.
The EPL VAR is terrible; they get worse every season. Now I understand why none of them are participating in the world cup; they are all so biased and inconsistent. If three referees working behind a computer cannot quickly draw a line and decide on a straightforward goal line or penalty, they are useless. The field referee has been making the final decision since last season which is so wrong!! The EPL VAR needs lesson notes from the Serie A VAR officials. If Halaand will not fall back to pick up the ball then it's going to be a long season for him!! Congrats to Liverpool! Well deserved despite the fact that the right side of the field wasn't functioning! Mane will be missed; Salah was the only player doing the job.
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I can already see we will have another bad season with regards to VAR. I can give them long time to react with City goal, it was difficult situation to judge and draw lines but why the hell they needed so much time for Liverpool penalty? It is as clear as it gets and then after quite long time they call main ref to check it by himself. If VAR ref can't call this one, then VAR room does not need ref, just technician to draw the lines.

I don't think it's ref or technical rooms fault in that very occasion, If you ask me, but the first problem was both team players being an utter distraction for the referee, in most cases of handballs or foul in the 12 yard box, the VAR crew probably always have a verdict of their own imo, but the players just need to allow the referee breathing space, it took the referee way less to come to a conclusion after checking the replay, probably around 5 secs or thereabout from him looking at the screen, when it comes to goals being ruled or not for offside that's the VAR team decision to make, but for handballs,  fouls, and red card worthy offences the referee is sole decision maker, VAR crew are just meant to call is attention to it if he didn't make the call at first glance imo, but the team players all ranting at once wouldn't even allow the referee communicate properly with the VAR team. If you look at Matip's low header that looks like it touched his hands some moments before Man City equalised, the VAR probably looked at it and since there probably no contact to his hands, the referee had no reason to come into play, the scenario didn't get replayed all through the end of the game, so It made me pretty sure there was probably nothing to be looked at in that case. More so, the players are always the ones begging the referees to take a look for themselves.
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I think i deserved some recognize for this bolt prediction.  Tongue. Cool


yeah, congrats on this prediction, and congrats to Liverpool on first trophy this season, it isn't even started properly, and they started their counter

my bet was down, but had another one on goals, that were good, so positive zero in the end
nevertheless, good football after some time, and it could bring another good season
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I dont know why, but i think if Julian Alvarez come into the game he can score.

Take an eye on that.



I think i deserved some recognize for this bolt prediction.  Tongue. Cool

I can already see we will have another bad season with regards to VAR. I can give them long time to react with City goal, it was difficult situation to judge and draw lines but why the hell they needed so much time for Liverpool penalty? It is as clear as it gets and then after quite long time they call main ref to check it by himself. If VAR ref can't call this one, then VAR room does not need ref, just technician to draw the lines.

Yes i cant believe when the referee goes to check himself a hand so clearly.

Good for Liverpool and congrats for us Liverpool fan LFC_BITCOIN.
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I can already see we will have another bad season with regards to VAR. I can give them long time to react with City goal, it was difficult situation to judge and draw lines but why the hell they needed so much time for Liverpool penalty? It is as clear as it gets and then after quite long time they call main ref to check it by himself. If VAR ref can't call this one, then VAR room does not need ref, just technician to draw the lines.
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1. Btw @buwaytress, you seem keen on Tottenham having a great season or at least a better one than Chelsea so, I'll take your side bet of Tottenham not finishing above Chelsea in the league, for a risk of If I lose I'll pay 3 mBTC while if you lose, you pay 2 mBTC

Done! That's how it's done, simple and straightforward, and if Spurs let me down, I definitely deserve it. I'd take your second one as well in another lifetime, but I don't like losing too much money to the same person in one sitting. You'll remind me if I lose, I hope? Wink

Trofo happy with the goal? TAA seems to have been given it even though I wasn't sure it'd have gone in if it didn't get that nice big Ake (?) deflection.

I'll probably just leave you feedback as a little reminder for the bet, because the post will get buried quickly once the new season gets underway.



I missed the first half but the 2nd half have been fairly even, with Nunez having had the best chance of game im the 2nd half so far but, got the better off by Ederson.

Edit: Alvarez gets us level and uncharacteristic spill from Adrian, I'd say he's made a couple of questionable saves, that perhaps Alisson wouldn't have.
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1. Btw @buwaytress, you seem keen on Tottenham having a great season or at least a better one than Chelsea so, I'll take your side bet of Tottenham not finishing above Chelsea in the league, for a risk of If I lose I'll pay 3 mBTC while if you lose, you pay 2 mBTC

Done! That's how it's done, simple and straightforward, and if Spurs let me down, I definitely deserve it. I'd take your second one as well in another lifetime, but I don't like losing too much money to the same person in one sitting. You'll remind me if I lose, I hope? Wink

Trofo happy with the goal? TAA seems to have been given it even though I wasn't sure it'd have gone in if it didn't get that nice big Ake (?) deflection.
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Who else going to start the season with a big bang on Community Shield? I know I am. Over 3/1 odds too!
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I am on the other side of this bet, City has troubles with Liverpool last seasons, but I think that this season will be different
will be interesting to see line-ups before the match, but my beer money is on City to win the match (it is value bet @2.35)

it is raining today, and this one should light the day, with great football
City to win @2+ odds is always good value, but if there's a market that's been profitable in the last few seasons and where City vs Liverpool do not dissapoint is total goals and btts. In their last 7 meetings in all competitions, 6 out of 7 games ended with BTTS, and 6 out of 7 had +2.5 goals, and if you're feeling confident, +3.5 goals was correct in the last four meetings. Good luck today!
I am on both to score in this game, took it early this morning @1.65, getting worried a little though since I don't see much clear cut chances in these first 20 minutes. We need an early goal to open up this game. We know both teams can score and play atomic football. Maybe they just need a little push remove the deadlock.
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I dont know why, but i think if Julian Alvarez come into the game he can score.

Take an eye on that.

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Who else going to start the season with a big bang on Community Shield? I know I am. Over 3/1 odds too!
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I am on the other side of this bet, City has troubles with Liverpool last seasons, but I think that this season will be different
will be interesting to see line-ups before the match, but my beer money is on City to win the match (it is value bet @2.35)

it is raining today, and this one should light the day, with great football
City to win @2+ odds is always good value, but if there's a market that's been profitable in the last few seasons and where City vs Liverpool do not dissapoint is total goals and btts. In their last 7 meetings in all competitions, 6 out of 7 games ended with BTTS, and 6 out of 7 had +2.5 goals, and if you're feeling confident, +3.5 goals was correct in the last four meetings. Good luck today!
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Who else going to start the season with a big bang on Community Shield? I know I am. Over 3/1 odds too!
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I am on the other side of this bet, City has troubles with Liverpool last seasons, but I think that this season will be different
will be interesting to see line-ups before the match, but my beer money is on City to win the match (it is value bet @2.35)

it is raining today, and this one should light the day, with great football
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