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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 02, 2022, 12:55:29 PM

Quote from: Trofo on September 02, 2022, 07:35:21 AM

Best to skip the game for betting or maybe play simple ML on Liverpool @1.45.

i would stay away from liverpool. The 9-0 was a glitch in the matrix, they didn't look sharp against The Magpies (and they looked very poor against Palace and Man Utd), Champions league starts next week so maybe Klopp will finally rest some players. Also, infamous Anthony Taylor will be the ref ^[1] so Everton could get away with murder in this game lol

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 02, 2022, 07:28:49 AM

Tbf, Leicester sold a fridge for 80M to Man Utd a few years ago and they recently performed a daylight robbery by selling Fofana for another 80M. The Foxes, masters of their craft, will sell this nobody for 60M-100M and there's nothing we can do about it Wink

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£70 million. 80 million EUR... it's a big gamble. Fofana doesn't have Champions League experience, he doesn't have national team experience and he has less than 40 appearences in the premier league. Overpriced. Leceister can't keep getting away with it 😳

Evertom vs Liverpool is a wierd derby always. Always low amount of goals and not good football on this match between these two teams. With how Liverpool is glitching i dont know what to expect from them. Leicester keeps on selling for huge bags but dosent buy anything,just greedy

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 02, 2022, 04:28:23 PM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 02, 2022, 12:55:29 PM

i would stay away from liverpool. The 9-0 was a glitch in the matrix

Glitch in the matrix huh, thats actually good one
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Out of first five match two draws, one lose. Tomahawk9 can say whatever he wants too, we still have a long way to go 😉
I am going for a win for the boys tomorrow and this should not be a hard one but again we never know. Against Newcastle all of us were convinced that we were not going to win the match that one point is enough but that lucky incident for Fabio Carvalho saved us from losing point.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 02, 2022, 12:55:29 PM

i would stay away from liverpool. The 9-0 was a glitch in the matrix

Glitch in the matrix huh, thats actually good one

Quote from: Harkorede on September 02, 2022, 01:25:49 AM

Ten Haag would have felt better with the team's 3rd consecutive victory, but there is still sh*t load of work to be done, you wouldn't say they were head above all hills the better side in those games, with those lone goal wins over extremely struggling sides ? it better shouldn't get into his head just yet because reality might dawn on him way sooner again.

Yeah pretty much all those 1-0 from the last two games totally show that we are still lacking while Arsenal have won 5 times in a row and scored 13 goals so far. Well atleast my concern now only lies on wether Manchester United would win or not against Arsenal, back then I always have my concern on wether Maguire would do shit tons of mistake to make the team looks like some sort of clown Roll Eyes

At the very least, possibly a draw against Arsenal though

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Quote from: Welsh on September 02, 2022, 11:54:53 AM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 02, 2022, 09:09:57 AM

However Liverpool's main problem can be related to Mane's leaving the team. Because he was like the mainstay of the team. He was helping the team in the midfield and attacking line both and playing a big role in scoring many goals. It is difficult for Elliott to fill his place of course and I wonder if we will see any move from Klopp in January. It depends on whether the team start being consistent until then.

Nah, it's the injuries. Diaz, and Elliott as you mention have actually stepped up. Currently Salah is struggling to be at his best because he's getting marked out of the game. Of course, I miss Mane, but I think we have good enough players to replace him. I'll always have fond memories of Mane though.

I doubt we'll get anyone in the winter transfer window, unless the right player comes up on the market, which doesn't look likely at this point in the season.

Liverpool is going to win this,Everton is one of the teams with some very poor performance so far and most points they have got is because they have been lucky and not because they have deserved them.Liverpool is of another quality despite having not the best of the starts to the season so I think the player difference will make an impact in tomorrow game and we will see an easy win from Liverpool.

In paper we have some easy games for tomorrow for the favorites,Liverpool as said should win,so it should Tottenham and Manchester City and also Chelsea want to start winning again against West Ham tomorrow.The most interesting game is Manchester United vs Arsenal on Sunday.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 02, 2022, 07:35:21 AM

Best to skip the game for betting or maybe play simple ML on Liverpool @1.45.

i would stay away from liverpool. The 9-0 was a glitch in the matrix, they didn't look sharp against The Magpies (and they looked very poor against Palace and Man Utd), Champions league starts next week so maybe Klopp will finally rest some players. Also, infamous Anthony Taylor will be the ref ^[1] so Everton could get away with murder in this game lol

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 02, 2022, 07:28:49 AM

Tbf, Leicester sold a fridge for 80M to Man Utd a few years ago and they recently performed a daylight robbery by selling Fofana for another 80M. The Foxes, masters of their craft, will sell this nobody for 60M-100M and there's nothing we can do about it Wink

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£70 million. 80 million EUR... it's a big gamble. Fofana doesn't have Champions League experience, he doesn't have national team experience and he has less than 40 appearences in the premier league. Overpriced. Leceister can't keep getting away with it 😳

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 02, 2022, 09:09:57 AM

However Liverpool's main problem can be related to Mane's leaving the team. Because he was like the mainstay of the team. He was helping the team in the midfield and attacking line both and playing a big role in scoring many goals. It is difficult for Elliott to fill his place of course and I wonder if we will see any move from Klopp in January. It depends on whether the team start being consistent until then.

Nah, it's the injuries. Diaz, and Elliott as you mention have actually stepped up. Currently Salah is struggling to be at his best because he's getting marked out of the game. Of course, I miss Mane, but I think we have good enough players to replace him. I'll always have fond memories of Mane though.

I doubt we'll get anyone in the winter transfer window, unless the right player comes up on the market, which doesn't look likely at this point in the season.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 02, 2022, 06:10:54 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on September 02, 2022, 03:31:51 AM

Who exactly is Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall? Oh my goodness! I thoroughly enjoyed his performance last night; Leicester City's scouting is excellent. They will extract €100m from this guy in 2-3 years.

He's a product of their academy, he's been there a while already.
Occasionally he does well and has a good game, but overall I don't expect him to be a player that will bring them insane money. I actually don't even feel that he will be a part of their first 11.

He's already 24 years old, hasn't been capped for England on any level and last season he had his first PL season, in which he was mediocre at best.

Oh, I didn't watch him last season, and based on the performance I just saw, the person competing with him must be very good, is it Albrighton? And, while 24 is still a young age, Vardy became a world-class player at 28 and earned his first England cap that same year, and with the current insane market, he could have one good season and attract a lot of top clubs. Leicester City is known for making a lot of money off of player sales after only 1-2 good seasons.

P.S. Having a lot of caps does not make you a good player; Maddison is better than Mount and most of England's midfielders, but he gets very few chances. Most of the time, it's all about the coach.

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 02, 2022, 07:28:49 AM

Tbf, Leicester sold a fridge for 80M to Man Utd a few years ago and they recently performed a daylight robbery by selling Fofana for another 80M. The Foxes, masters of their craft, will sell this nobody for 60M-100M and there's nothing we can do about it Wink

Haha we pay only £69+ ads on for Fofana! Not up to 80m

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Quote from: slaman29 on September 02, 2022, 02:06:04 AM

I thought I was doing really badly actually, well okay I am lol but am really surprised to see last season prize winners below me. Has the scene flipped, like Leicester and Liverpool now bottom half of the table?

But don't worry guys, just kidding, I know things will turn around.

Derby I think Everton only won it once in modern times during Liverpool's injury season. This looks like close to another injury season except they have van dijk.

There's just been some really unexpected/unpredictable results. Most of the big teams have had terrible starts, though Liverpool and Man U look to have turned that around now. Ronnie is staying until at least January now so I'm sure they'll start playing him instead of benching him. There's usually always some bad starts with a bit of rust to shake off but none that have been as bad as this in recent memory.

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Liverpool started to try Harvey Elliott in the midfield. He is only a 19-year-old player but he is a wonderkid at the same time. He scored one goal in 5 league games so far. Apart from that, I really like his performance recently. He is playing an important role in the development of dangerous attacks. He has a nice technic too which would be useful for the team. For example his goal against Bournemouth was really spectacular.

However Liverpool's main problem can be related to Mane's leaving the team. Because he was like the mainstay of the team. He was helping the team in the midfield and attacking line both and playing a big role in scoring many goals. It is difficult for Elliott to fill his place of course and I wonder if we will see any move from Klopp in January. It depends on whether the team start being consistent until then.

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Quote from: Welsh on September 02, 2022, 06:06:48 AM

Quote from: Trofo on September 02, 2022, 01:28:03 AM

As far as I know Arthur to Liverpool is dine deal. Not much of singning probably but I guess slow start to the season and lots of injuries forced their hand and they bought what they could in last minutes.

Don't expect him to play much but he is one more option for the rotation when needed.

Liverpool is winning against Everton on weekend, right? Everton never looked weaker but this is Merseyside derby so who knows.

Yeah, just seeing it now. Loan. Probably to plug the gap with the injuries, and see if he does rediscover some of his previous form. I do believe he was quite promising at some point in his career, I can't say I've seen much of him though.

Yeah, I'm quite confident we'll beat Everton. They don't have the players they had last season, and they were god awful last season. We might be absolutely awful right about now, but I'm still confident of winning by at least two goals, and keeping a clean sheet. I'd like to see Matip start to better our chances of a clean sheet though, and hopefully get him match fit with a relatively easy opponent. Of course though, stranger things have happened.

I think the situation of midfield in Liverpool is not the best. Probably that’s why they wanted to have some more reinforcement in that area. This is a good signing on loan.
Liverpool is a good team and even though they did not start the season as they probably would have wanted I think they are going to improve going forward.
So him being in the team and if he can play quite often I think he will be able to get back to form. Not the best signing but I would say not the worst as well

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 02, 2022, 07:29:31 AM

Everton has ever looked weaker after the genius Moyes left the club. They used to be a consistent midtable club finishing likely at 5th - 7th in most of their seasons under Moyes... At least that's how I remember it. But yeah, they're definitely losing against Klopp's guys and maybe even losing with the opposing side getting s clean sheet.

The team totals for Everton, under 0.5 goals is at 2.22. What do you guys think? It seems like there's a little bit of value there... I mean could Everton really get one in? Are Liverpool's CB's really performing that poorly?

I can't quite remember, but there was one point where I was a little bit worried about how they were putting things together. They signed James Rodriguez, and a few other players that really did stamp down some authority. The only problem with that was it was mismanaged from the get go, and they never really gained much from spending all that money. Obviously, they've paid the price of a massive outlay like that, and are probably still somewhat recovering from it.

I still think Everton will be playing for their survival in the Premier League at the end of the season. They might be lucky because teams like Bournemouth at the moment look absolutely shocking. As well as Leeds, and Leicester.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 02, 2022, 07:29:31 AM

The team totals for Everton, under 0.5 goals is at 2.22. What do you guys think? It seems like there's a little bit of value there.

Not against this Liverpool, they look really bad in defense and more or less every team scored against them. It is derby game and Everton will give their best to trouble the reds. I can see them even scoring first and then Liverpool turning the screw and winning later on.

Best to skip the game for betting or maybe play simple ML on Liverpool @1.45.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 02, 2022, 01:28:03 AM

Quote from: Welsh on September 01, 2022, 05:27:52 PM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 01, 2022, 04:41:42 PM

for the liverpool fans who don't know Arthur: tremendous flop in FC Barcelona, massive flop in Juventus, injury prone, not a great creative mid but he's ok in the defensive job and can help push the team forward. He should be a decent sub for Liverpool

I haven't heard any news from the reliable journalists around Liverpool, so I imagine it's just tabloid rumours which are usually rife around this time. However, I'll bite. Liverpool don't need a sub, they need someone to come in, and be of first team quality or alternatively someone who's reliable. Gini was a super reliable player for us, and it's unfortunate we let him go, as he was the perfect solution to what we're going through right now, and that's a lack of players. Thiago is brilliant, but very injury prone. Henderson is brilliant on his day, but has also struggled with the pace of the game in the recent years, and does pick up some injuries himself. Consider Gini who was almost never injured. Seriously, I can't remember the last time he was injured for Liverpool.

On the other hand we also have Keita who has missed more games than he has played because he's so injury prone. We just need someone like Milner with a bit more miles in his legs, and can be a difference maker. I don't know who that is, and I doubt we sign anyone that fits the bill this side of Christmas.

As far as I know Arthur to Liverpool is dine deal. Not much of singning probably but I guess slow start to the season and lots of injuries forced their hand and they bought what they could in last minutes.

Don't expect him to play much but he is one more option for the rotation when needed.

Liverpool is winning against Everton on weekend, right? Everton never looked weaker but this is Merseyside derby so who knows.

Everton has ever looked weaker after the genius Moyes left the club. They used to be a consistent midtable club finishing likely at 5th - 7th in most of their seasons under Moyes... At least that's how I remember it. But yeah, they're definitely losing against Klopp's guys and maybe even losing with the opposing side getting s clean sheet.

The team totals for Everton, under 0.5 goals is at 2.22. What do you guys think? It seems like there's a little bit of value there... I mean could Everton really get one in? Are Liverpool's CB's really performing that poorly?

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 02, 2022, 03:31:51 AM

Who exactly is Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall? Oh my goodness! I thoroughly enjoyed his performance last night; Leicester City's scouting is excellent. They will extract €100m from this guy in 2-3 years.

He's a product of their academy, he's been there a while already.
Occasionally he does well and has a good game, but overall I don't expect him to be a player that will bring them insane money.

Tbf, Leicester sold a fridge for 80M to Man Utd a few years ago and they recently performed a daylight robbery by selling Fofana for another 80M. The Foxes, masters of their craft, will sell this nobody for 60M-100M and there's nothing we can do about it Wink

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 02, 2022, 03:31:51 AM

Who exactly is Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall? Oh my goodness! I thoroughly enjoyed his performance last night; Leicester City's scouting is excellent. They will extract €100m from this guy in 2-3 years.

He's a product of their academy, he's been there a while already.
Occasionally he does well and has a good game, but overall I don't expect him to be a player that will bring them insane money. I actually don't even feel that he will be a part of their first 11.

He's already 24 years old, hasn't been capped for England on any level and last season he had his first PL season, in which he was mediocre at best.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 02, 2022, 01:28:03 AM

As far as I know Arthur to Liverpool is dine deal. Not much of singning probably but I guess slow start to the season and lots of injuries forced their hand and they bought what they could in last minutes.

Don't expect him to play much but he is one more option for the rotation when needed.

Liverpool is winning against Everton on weekend, right? Everton never looked weaker but this is Merseyside derby so who knows.

Yeah, just seeing it now. Loan. Probably to plug the gap with the injuries, and see if he does rediscover some of his previous form. I do believe he was quite promising at some point in his career, I can't say I've seen much of him though.

Yeah, I'm quite confident we'll beat Everton. They don't have the players they had last season, and they were god awful last season. We might be absolutely awful right about now, but I'm still confident of winning by at least two goals, and keeping a clean sheet. I'd like to see Matip start to better our chances of a clean sheet though, and hopefully get him match fit with a relatively easy opponent. Of course though, stranger things have happened.

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 02, 2022, 01:06:04 AM

United may have played well in first half, but this is a really poor Leicester side missing a lot of the gelling and form, and they probably deserved at least a goal. All the same, Ten Hag must be feeling the pressure let off for a bit.

They can't be getting any joy from Arsenal, surely?

I hope you understand why McTom is more important to this team than the other DM options. He may not be a great passer, but his workrate and marking are among the best this season, in my opinion. He gave the Manchester United backline so much confidence with his interceptions and tackles throughout the game last night; he was the most important player on the pitch for the Manchester United side, and I hope the other side of United fans can see why coaches always throw him to the first IX.

Who exactly is Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall? Oh my goodness! I thoroughly enjoyed his performance last night; Leicester City's scouting is excellent. They will extract €100m from this guy in 2-3 years.

Arsenal will end Manchester United.

Quote from: Trofo on September 02, 2022, 01:28:03 AM

Liverpool is winning against Everton on weekend, right? Everton never looked weaker but this is Merseyside derby so who knows.

Hahaha "How many goals will Liverpool score against Everton?" should be the question. The Merseyside derby is the easiest and most boring derby, with Liverpool winning by +3 goals.

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I thought I was doing really badly actually, well okay I am lol but am really surprised to see last season prize winners below me. Has the scene flipped, like Leicester and Liverpool now bottom half of the table?

But don't worry guys, just kidding, I know things will turn around.

Derby I think Everton only won it once in modern times during Liverpool's injury season. This looks like close to another injury season except they have van dijk.

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Quote from: Welsh on September 01, 2022, 05:27:52 PM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 01, 2022, 04:41:42 PM

for the liverpool fans who don't know Arthur: tremendous flop in FC Barcelona, massive flop in Juventus, injury prone, not a great creative mid but he's ok in the defensive job and can help push the team forward. He should be a decent sub for Liverpool

I haven't heard any news from the reliable journalists around Liverpool, so I imagine it's just tabloid rumours which are usually rife around this time. However, I'll bite. Liverpool don't need a sub, they need someone to come in, and be of first team quality or alternatively someone who's reliable. Gini was a super reliable player for us, and it's unfortunate we let him go, as he was the perfect solution to what we're going through right now, and that's a lack of players. Thiago is brilliant, but very injury prone. Henderson is brilliant on his day, but has also struggled with the pace of the game in the recent years, and does pick up some injuries himself. Consider Gini who was almost never injured. Seriously, I can't remember the last time he was injured for Liverpool.

On the other hand we also have Keita who has missed more games than he has played because he's so injury prone. We just need someone like Milner with a bit more miles in his legs, and can be a difference maker. I don't know who that is, and I doubt we sign anyone that fits the bill this side of Christmas.

As far as I know Arthur to Liverpool is dine deal. Not much of singning probably but I guess slow start to the season and lots of injuries forced their hand and they bought what they could in last minutes.

Don't expect him to play much but he is one more option for the rotation when needed.

Liverpool is winning against Everton on weekend, right? Everton never looked weaker but this is Merseyside derby so who knows.

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 02, 2022, 01:06:04 AM

United may have played well in first half, but this is a really poor Leicester side missing a lot of the gelling and form, and they probably deserved at least a goal. All the same, Ten Hag must be feeling the pressure let off for a bit.

They can't be getting any joy from Arsenal, surely?

I really don't know, I think they just might another decent result off Arsenal.

Arsenal so far haven't played any of the big teams, I'm not saying Man Utd is a big team Grin

, but we know Arsenal tend to fair against these teams, and We'll find out If they'll be able to get it done this season, but I'm not having my hopes up.

Ten Haag would have felt better with the team's 3rd consecutive victory, but there is still sh*t load of work to be done, you wouldn't say they were head above all hills the better side in those games, with those lone goal wins over extremely struggling sides ? it better shouldn't get into his head just yet because reality might dawn on him way sooner again.

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