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Quote from: Igebotz on August 09, 2022, 05:01:54 PM

Mc.Tom has a great work rate, his only issue is his passing vision, he offers more without the ball at his feet, he does the dirty work, but his composure and passing vision are poor

Yeah I think he is pretty underrated because he is playing in Manchester United and would be considered so much better with that work rate in some other teams. Kinda like being over shadowed by the fact that the team keep on losing ever since last season and even when the team win, he will not be the player that will hog the spotlight.

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Quote from: examplens on August 09, 2022, 04:16:19 PM

Quote from: Igebotz on August 09, 2022, 04:03:01 PM

Manchester United's problem is a proper DM who can cover up spaces and bring energy to the game; Rabiot can DM as well, but he's not that guy. Fred's conversion to DM isn't working because he's spent his entire life playing the attacking role before joining Manchester United. Something is wrong with the team when the goalkeeper is the best player in every game. They need Ndidi or Rice in that position..

they should change the entire midfield. McFred combination is probably the worst duo, It is not at all clear to me why there is so much insistence on McTom. here is already the third manager. I guess he is very good at training.
I'm not sure that Rice or Ndidi would have brought such significant progress in that segment, they need player profiles like Roy Keane.

Mc.Tom has a great work rate, his only issue is his passing vision, he offers more without the ball at his feet, he does the dirty work, but his composure and passing vision are poor, he's a great guy who has earned the trust of three managers, they see what we don't see in him, and I believe he would do extremely well elsewhere. Ndidi is one of the league's best DM, and he provides more than just tackles.

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Quote from: Igebotz on August 09, 2022, 04:03:01 PM

Manchester United's problem is a proper DM who can cover up spaces and bring energy to the game; Rabiot can DM as well, but he's not that guy. Fred's conversion to DM isn't working because he's spent his entire life playing the attacking role before joining Manchester United. Something is wrong with the team when the goalkeeper is the best player in every game. They need Ndidi or Rice in that position..

they should change the entire midfield. McFred combination is probably the worst duo, It is not at all clear to me why there is so much insistence on McTom. here is already the third manager. I guess he is very good at training.
I'm not sure that Rice or Ndidi would have brought such significant progress in that segment, they need player profiles like Roy Keane.

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Quote from: CLS63 on August 09, 2022, 02:05:39 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on August 07, 2022, 10:24:03 AM

I think they have a lot of prospect and would perform better than they did last season, there just still seem to be some missing pieces for them to put together, especially in the attack, the midfield was quite okay imo, but they need explosive attackers on the flanks.

They have a really decent squad actually. I still don't understand what is wrong with this team currently. I thought that it was related to especially Solskjaer's management style. But it turns out that the same problems are continuing for them.

They are about to complete another signing who is Adrien Rabiot. They needed to fill the place being emptied by Pogba and they have gone for Rabiot. I wonder what Ronaldo is thinking about this move as he worked with him at Juventus. I think this move is nice but they just need to focus on the source of this worrying problem above all else.

Degea claimed that the team was cursed! There is more to that statement, and I don't believe he was incorrect. Even the previous coach felt the same way, and it's starting to show: they have a very good squad and a very good squad depth, but they continue to perform below average.

Manchester United's problem is a proper DM who can cover up spaces and bring energy to the game; Rabiot can DM as well, but he's not that guy. Fred's conversion to DM isn't working because he's spent his entire life playing the attacking role before joining Manchester United. Something is wrong with the team when the goalkeeper is the best player in every game. They need Ndidi or Rice in that position..

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I think its a bad movement for Manchester United, to take in this moment a player like Rabiot, the Manchester needs more blood to play, and Rabiot its a fine player a Arsenal kind player.

I really want to Macnhester united to be in the fight again but seems hard.

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Quote from: Harkorede on August 07, 2022, 10:24:03 AM

I think they have a lot of prospect and would perform better than they did last season, there just still seem to be some missing pieces for them to put together, especially in the attack, the midfield was quite okay imo, but they need explosive attackers on the flanks.

They have a really decent squad actually. I still don't understand what is wrong with this team currently. I thought that it was related to especially Solskjaer's management style. But it turns out that the same problems are continuing for them.

They are about to complete another signing who is Adrien Rabiot. They needed to fill the place being emptied by Pogba and they have gone for Rabiot. I wonder what Ronaldo is thinking about this move as he worked with him at Juventus. I think this move is nice but they just need to focus on the source of this worrying problem above all else.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 09, 2022, 06:19:36 AM

This has not been that common in Premier League where usually the big teams have won mostly their opening game like it happened for many teams except Liverpool,because I don't consider Manchester United a strong team anymore,other than Liverpool,Chelsea,Arsenal,Tottenham and Manchester City all won their games so the only surprise was Liverpool for this first week.

I agree that in other leagues like in Switzerland,Belgium and Denmark in the opening games always we see surprise results from the strong teams,so yes it is a common theme but out of the Premier League I think.

It's funny that at Liverpool, none of the pool participants earned a point, while two participants earned at United and one even guessed the exact score.
As for the "reliability" of the leaders, it is enough for the pool, but if you place bets, the result shown by Liverpool brings a much greater loss than all the profits from the other leaders. And the problem is that it is not known which of the leaders will make a mistake in the next round.

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Quote from: Welsh on August 09, 2022, 04:49:22 AM

I had a awful week, didn't expect Liverpool to drop points obviously, I did predict Brighton to beat Man Utd, but Wolves, Leicester, and West ham I expected to do better than they did. Biggest surprise is obviously Liverpool, but I'm also surprised a little about West Ham, I actually thought they could've got something from the game going by the pre season form of Man City.

Not sure how some of you got exact scores with those results Tongue

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Quote from: darxiaomi on August 08, 2022, 08:44:50 PM

2- Nobody can really know how good or bad its a team, after round 10 we can see a real tendency.

It's why betting on the underdogs make sense towards the start of the season, as the start of the season tends to have quite a lot of upsets due to preparation in the pre season. I don't know why exactly, since I'd expect the bigger teams to have a better way of going about things, but it does seem a common theme over the years.

This has not been that common in Premier League where usually the big teams have won mostly their opening game like it happened for many teams except Liverpool,because I don't consider Manchester United a strong team anymore,other than Liverpool,Chelsea,Arsenal,Tottenham and Manchester City all won their games so the only surprise was Liverpool for this first week.

I agree that in other leagues like in Switzerland,Belgium and Denmark in the opening games always we see surprise results from the strong teams,so yes it is a common theme but out of the Premier League I think.

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I had a awful week, didn't expect Liverpool to drop points obviously, I did predict Brighton to beat Man Utd, but Wolves, Leicester, and West ham I expected to do better than they did. Biggest surprise is obviously Liverpool, but I'm also surprised a little about West Ham, I actually thought they could've got something from the game going by the pre season form of Man City.

Not sure how some of you got exact scores with those results Tongue

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Quote from: darxiaomi on August 08, 2022, 08:44:50 PM

2- Nobody can really know how good or bad its a team, after round 10 we can see a real tendency.

It's why betting on the underdogs make sense towards the start of the season, as the start of the season tends to have quite a lot of upsets due to preparation in the pre season. I don't know why exactly, since I'd expect the bigger teams to have a better way of going about things, but it does seem a common theme over the years.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on August 08, 2022, 08:44:50 PM

Congrats to ibuprofen for win the first round!.
Really impresed by the 5 exact score he made, i know being te first round its more luck than skill but, still a lot of points in the bag.
I really dont like the first round for two things:

1- We are all together in the tabble.
2- Nobody can really know how good or bad its a team, after round 10 we can see a real tendency.

That 1 point is going to get clarified really soon,at maximum in the 4th week of the tournament.When we come to such week I doubt we will see 10 people with the same amount of point and then another 10 people with the same amount of points,it is clear that no one can see where everyone is because only one week has passed.However I think we already see each team performance during the first week and we can get a glimpse of what to expect in the coming round which will hold some good and difficult matches to predict.

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Congrats to ibuprofen for win the first round!.
Really impresed by the 5 exact score he made, i know being te first round its more luck than skill but, still a lot of points in the bag.
I really dont like the first round for two things:

1- We are all together in the tabble.
2- Nobody can really know how good or bad its a team, after round 10 we can see a real tendency.

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Quote from: Igebotz on August 08, 2022, 03:26:45 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on August 08, 2022, 08:14:48 AM

Quote from: Trofo on August 08, 2022, 04:56:29 AM

United really made this game week

Shill me your United memes Grin

if anything, good memes are always with United, it is hard for me to cut and paste on the phone and post here, but enjoying it on Twitter
it is really pain in the ass for United fans to have this season start

on the other side, Haaland would probably be better than I expected this season, although let us not judge that on first match

Haha, KDB was responsible for 95% of Halaand's second goal; if KDB stays fit, Halaand will score a lot of goals this season, as KDB is the only player who can turn an average striker into a prime Pele with his final pass. With the current situation, if B.Silva leaves for Barcelona, it would be a huge problem for them this season, especially since they have already lost Sterling and G. Jesus, and KDB is becoming prone to injury.

Haaland is definitely go to be a hit for Man City this season, KDB influence on Man City's attack cannot be over estimated, however, I think Haaland also makes the job really easier for those playmaking for him with his impressive positioning and movement off the ball, he's very good at keeping defenses on their toes, you just can't afford lose sight of him for split-second as a defender.

Quote from: Igebotz on August 08, 2022, 03:26:45 PM

Tbh, ETH player choices are below average, and I'm not impressed with his choices since he arrived. Just because he was successful at Ajax does not guarantee that bringing those players to Manchester United will be equally successful; he has been trying to sign all of Ajax's stars since he arrived. You can't blame the Glazers; they've been wasting money for the past five years. I want to see tears.

Where are the Manchester united fans here.

I wasn't expecting an overnight turn around with Man Utd, but I guess all everyone just wants to see is some sort of progress, even coaches like Guardiola and Klopp didn't get at rolling from their very first couple of games or even their first season in the league to say the least, but once a coach have a genuine idea of what he wants to implement with a squad, they'd need a bit of time, I just hope Man Utd would be patient enough to give him at least 2 seasons at the club.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 08, 2022, 08:14:48 AM

Quote from: Trofo on August 08, 2022, 04:56:29 AM

United really made this game week

Shill me your United memes Grin

if anything, good memes are always with United, it is hard for me to cut and paste on the phone and post here, but enjoying it on Twitter
it is really pain in the ass for United fans to have this season start

on the other side, Haaland would probably be better than I expected this season, although let us not judge that on first match

Haha, KDB was responsible for 95% of Halaand's second goal; if KDB stays fit, Halaand will score a lot of goals this season, as KDB is the only player who can turn an average striker into a prime Pele with his final pass. With the current situation, if B.Silva leaves for Barcelona, it would be a huge problem for them this season, especially since they have already lost Sterling and G. Jesus, and KDB is becoming prone to injury.

Tbh, ETH player choices are below average, and I'm not impressed with his choices since he arrived. Just because he was successful at Ajax does not guarantee that bringing those players to Manchester United will be equally successful; he has been trying to sign all of Ajax's stars since he arrived. You can't blame the Glazers; they've been wasting money for the past five years. I want to see tears.

Where are the Manchester united fans here.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 08, 2022, 04:56:29 AM

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Shill me your United memes Grin

I think that nothing will be better than that photo of Ronaldo with the face of a gremlin on the bench Grin

Ten Hag got into a difficult situation from the very first match - he wanted to show that he was the main one by not releasing Ronaldo in the first team, but in order to assert himself, he needed a result and United lost by showing a disgusting game. Now his authority has been shaken, and there are obviously disagreements within the team. Do you think it's worth betting on the fact that Ronaldo will run away from a sinking ship? I am 90% sure of this, although it seems that he does not have good options.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 08, 2022, 04:56:29 AM

United really made this game week

Shill me your United memes Grin

if anything, good memes are always with United, it is hard for me to cut and paste on the phone and post here, but enjoying it on Twitter
it is really pain in the ass for United fans to have this season start

on the other side, Haaland would probably be better than I expected this season, although let us not judge that on first match

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I thought that I would get a yellow cap by 15.5 points on the week Liverpool and Manchester United both lost points. However I was really shocked to see 19 points from the leader. Congratulations, it is a really big success. Cheesy

I picked 2-1 win for Leicester but the goal came in the last minutes really changed things. If that goal didn't come I was going to get a yellow cap by 18.5 points. Leicester were even conceding another goal in the last moments. Grin

It was unlucky for me.

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United really made this game week, I am cracking up all the times on twitter. Here is one meme of the another iconic Maguire moment which I somehow missed during the game.

And then another one from perspective of Man United supporter:

Shill me your United memes Grin

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Quote from: Harkorede on August 08, 2022, 01:05:36 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 07, 2022, 03:08:14 PM

Quote from: Trofo on August 07, 2022, 02:39:51 PM

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That is one of the greatest scores I have seen for a single round of 10 games at 19 points,I rarely if I ever saw this kind of score in the last season,sure we had scores above that but these scores were when we had rounds of more than 15 games.

Strange to see so many exact scores to him,he clearly has done an impressive round and is leading already comfortably since a single round.Nothing to worry for us mere humans,we have enough time to recover little by little Grin

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Only problem, those bastards that get that many exact scores, get them all the time. Nothing to complain from my side though, very happy with 4th position. It was a good day for me today culminating with exact score on City game.

Haaland looked dangerous, especially in combination with DeBruyne. I am seeing those two working together on many more goals this season.

Hi, neighbor! (I'm in 5th position) Cheesy

I don't think anyone will always guess the correct score and 19 points in this round is a random fluctuation that won't happen again soon. 30 points is the correct prediction for all 10 games with an accurate score - a very hard to hit this jackpot. 19 points is very close.
I was more surprised that some players managed to score 4-5-6 points Grin

That's quite a number points to amass from the leader of the table, a potential best yellow cap of the season right from the first game round.

I'm all the way down to no 18th on the leaderboard, I don't think I can complain much given that I was only able to get 5 games correctly that's an average of around 2 points per fixture.

After being let down by Man Utd, Leicester City throwing away a 2-goal advantage vs Brentford is another bitter loss to swallow.

I am down in 36th and compared to last year where I led the pack from week 2-8 is an awful result so far.Nevertheless these positions will clear up when we advance with the next rounds in the pool because there are a lot of persons with the same number of points and that is why we are in such low places despite having made not so bad results as the first round,I got 9.5 points so I believe I can round it at 1.5 point per game that I have found correctly.

I had Leicester 2-1 as a correct score so that really pissed me off when I saw the final result as 2-2 which I honestly did not expect.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 07, 2022, 03:08:14 PM

Quote from: Trofo on August 07, 2022, 02:39:51 PM

Quote from: swogerino on August 07, 2022, 02:08:05 PM

That is one of the greatest scores I have seen for a single round of 10 games at 19 points,I rarely if I ever saw this kind of score in the last season,sure we had scores above that but these scores were when we had rounds of more than 15 games.

Strange to see so many exact scores to him,he clearly has done an impressive round and is leading already comfortably since a single round.Nothing to worry for us mere humans,we have enough time to recover little by little Grin

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Only problem, those bastards that get that many exact scores, get them all the time. Nothing to complain from my side though, very happy with 4th position. It was a good day for me today culminating with exact score on City game.

Haaland looked dangerous, especially in combination with DeBruyne. I am seeing those two working together on many more goals this season.

Hi, neighbor! (I'm in 5th position) Cheesy

I don't think anyone will always guess the correct score and 19 points in this round is a random fluctuation that won't happen again soon. 30 points is the correct prediction for all 10 games with an accurate score - a very hard to hit this jackpot. 19 points is very close.
I was more surprised that some players managed to score 4-5-6 points Grin

That's quite a number points to amass from the leader of the table, a potential best yellow cap of the season right from the first game round.

I'm all the way down to no 18th on the leaderboard, I don't think I can complain much given that I was only able to get 5 games correctly that's an average of around 2 points per fixture.

After being let down by Man Utd, Leicester City throwing away a 2-goal advantage vs Brentford is another bitter loss to swallow.

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Nice to see Haaland off with a flying start. A real confident boost for a humble fella Roll Eyes

Quote from: buwaytress on August 07, 2022, 04:11:28 AM

Yeah, I think it's so far 18 spots, 20 if those who've committed will pay. Highest season cap gets any spillover prize from that (quote below is latest update)... just saw current leader actually managed to get SO many exact picks. I hate him haha.

Haha yeah what a luckbox, the entire season luck spent already in the first round.

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