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I don't know. Yes, of course, a new coach wants to win the first game, but what are the stats on that? Do they often succeed?

I think in most other leagues the fact is they often succeed and I think in Premier League it is the same when the new coach has a team with a great name like Chelsea has been in recent years for example.Now this coach with the postponement of the games in the Premier League will have somewhat an easier job winning against Salzburg tonight in the Champions League game.If Chelsea fails this then things will go inevitably wrong even in the Premier League as the moral of the players will be at the bottom of the bottom level.

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who is on the 42nd place after moving 5 positions up. What pleases me is that we have traveled only through 6 rounds out of our 38 rounds long journey. Much can change within the next 2-3 rounds, let alone all of them.

Just to be clear, and that you don't get the wrong idea. I wish you the best of luck, but you're not allowed to overtake me at any point in this season, at least from now Tongue

. It's not sanctioned, I'm sitting comfortably in my 42nd slot with .5 more points, and I'd like that to be respected Cheesy

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Well, after a post like this I'm gonna keep an eye on your position against mine till the Round 38, on May 30th 2023 .

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To make things even harder to predict, Chelsea will have a new coach for the game.

Usually this should make things easier and not harder but of course it is not always the case.Whenever a new coach comes he will do anything in his power to win the first game to show the management that they have made the right decision and that he started his duty with the right foot. ~

I don't know. Yes, of course, a new coach wants to win the first game, but what are the stats on that? Do they often succeed?

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 12, 2022, 06:33:01 AM

And then we're also chasing Douglas Luiz from Villa ha? Wonder if we also finally get Bellingham (even though I promised not to think about him again) in January.

I wouldn't get your hopes up for a winter transfer for Bellingham. If he have any sort of chance with him, it'll be in the summer. However, I think that's also rather unlikely to happen. Depends if FSG want to unleash the war chest that they've been building over the years. Although, they did just spend a lot on Nunes, so that might've had an impact on who we can sign in the next window.

I do think we'll be looking to add a player in the winter transfer window, I just don't know if we'll find someone who fits the bill. Hopefully, by then we've sorted out our injury crisis, and are doing fairly well in the Champions League, since I do believe that the title might've slipped away from us by then, unless we change our form rather quickly.

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Quote from: casperBGD on September 12, 2022, 02:40:27 PM

yeah, did not expected for whole EPL round to be postponed, not sure if there is a reason that is undercover for this
but locals certainly do, some people expected whole round to be postponed immediately after Queen died, at first moment it was a surprise for me, but after thinking it through, it could be reasonable, if 12-day mourning is on
not sure how this would be played out in other countries, but cannot compare British Royal family with other countries, it is probably most known in the world (maybe Sultan from Brunei, that is pretty popular in RAP songs in Serbia, when talking about wealth and splurge (it is a joke, of course))

I read that EPL also postponed 3 next round games due to lack of police officers - Brighton v Crystal Palace, Chelsea v Liverpool and Man Utd v Leeds. Though, all Championship and lower leagues games will go as planned. And as I understand, other sports like rugby didn't even stopped. Offcourse that we as football fans aren't happy about postponement, especially considering that there is not many alternative dates for it because of Wolrd Cup. But everything is understandable, Queen that ruled country for 70 years dies and national mourning is announced, it doesn't happen every day.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 10, 2022, 03:56:22 PM

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I was also surprised that Brighton had to postpone their match cause of railroad strike, seems like total nonsense if you don't know the context of getting to Brighton stadium and their rivalry with C. Palace.

yeah, did not expected for whole EPL round to be postponed, not sure if there is a reason that is undercover for this
but locals certainly do, some people expected whole round to be postponed immediately after Queen died, at first moment it was a surprise for me, but after thinking it through, it could be reasonable, if 12-day mourning is on
not sure how this would be played out in other countries, but cannot compare British Royal family with other countries, it is probably most known in the world (maybe Sultan from Brunei, that is pretty popular in RAP songs in Serbia, when talking about wealth and splurge (it is a joke, of course))

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 12, 2022, 06:33:01 AM

So just when I thought transfer was done we get king of Shithousery to welcome who joins Wolves... not sure how that team is going to make any gains on league position but I suppose they love playing the role of foil to all the other teams, hope they nick points off City and Arsenal but Liverpool are just as much a target heh.

And then we're also chasing Douglas Luiz from Villa ha? Wonder if we also finally get Bellingham (even though I promised not to think about him again) in January.

I don't like Diego Costa much, didn't even like him while he was in top form and he is far from that now. That being said Wolves are criminally bad in attack and they couldn't be any worse so any attacking signing is a good signing for them

Since transfer window is closed in England there wasn't many good options available, they did best they could at the moment.

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So just when I thought transfer was done we get king of Shithousery to welcome who joins Wolves... not sure how that team is going to make any gains on league position but I suppose they love playing the role of foil to all the other teams, hope they nick points off City and Arsenal but Liverpool are just as much a target heh.

And then we're also chasing Douglas Luiz from Villa ha? Wonder if we also finally get Bellingham (even though I promised not to think about him again) in January.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2022, 04:06:42 PM

That is not even the biggest problem. There are many people that bought tickets for PL games and traveled from far to see their favorite team play. There was some guy on twitter saying that he flew from Australia with his son, a big United fan. It was supposed to be first time boy sees his favorite club play and they paid a shitload of money for tickets to get there. Don't know if that story is true but I am sure there is many similar out there.

Too be fair maybe it is best to cancel all big happenings from simple practical point of view, I don't think rest of the world really understands how much of a stress on London traffic and institutions will this event have. I know I don't and I was quite surprised when reading related articles today.

I want to know if the tickets are still good until the next available date for those games since they are not refundable. Can those in the UK let us know if other sports bodies also stop their competitions? Or perhaps the FA made that choice alone. If the fixtures had continued, there would have been a minute of silence for her and a beauty parade before each game as millions of well-wishers looked on. If we're being honest, stopping everything else is also a good way to show respect as well. I hope those who traveled far and near to watch games understand how unexpected the situation was.

When our president passed away in 2007, a 3–4 day public holiday was declared in his honor. She merits the best mourning for several reasons, including the possibility that the majority of us won't get the chance to see another Queen.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 10, 2022, 03:56:22 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 10, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

When I wrote about my anger, I meant such consequences too. For those who are close to the Queen, mourning is normal and won't affect their lives much, but for those who are far from those circles, the consequences can be severe (like that guy from Australia). And in general, it infuriates me that someone orders others how to grieve. I doubt that if there was a referendum, people would vote for such mourning.

As far as I understood this situation, royal family did not demand postponement of PL or any other happenings like concerts. That was the decision of organizing bodies since they believed situation in a country is maybe too problematic organize everything without problems. As I already said, seems a bit unreal to me and I would like to hear opinion from somebody living in London.

I was also surprised that Brighton had to postpone their match cause of railroad strike, seems like total nonsense if you don't know the context of getting to Brighton stadium and their rivalry with C. Palace.

Yes, it would be nice to hear the opinions of the locals. I heard two versions of the adoption/justification of this decision: firstly, it is a law (such as mourning events are automatically established by law), and secondly, that the police cannot ensure the safety of football games due to funerals and other events.

Hell, postponing one game is even worse than postponing the entire tour - it will break/shift in time the results in the pool.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 10, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2022, 04:06:42 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 09, 2022, 09:29:47 AM

Yes, I agree. And I would say that such total cancellations really make me angry. I am not against formal gestures like a minute of silence that do not affect anything, but such a scrapping of familiar life for everyone who is not directly related to the queen is complete nonsense. It is like a reminder to the serfs of their place in life. The master said to grieve, so you need to grieve.

That is not even the biggest problem. There are many people that bought tickets for PL games and traveled from far to see their favorite team play. There was some guy on twitter saying that he flew from Australia with his son, a big United fan. It was supposed to be first time boy sees his favorite club play and they paid a shitload of money for tickets to get there. Don't know if that story is true but I am sure there is many similar out there.

Too be fair maybe it is best to cancel all big happenings from simple practical point of view, I don't think rest of the world really understands how much of a stress on London traffic and institutions will this event have. I know I don't and I was quite surprised when reading related articles today.

When I wrote about my anger, I meant such consequences too. For those who are close to the Queen, mourning is normal and won't affect their lives much, but for those who are far from those circles, the consequences can be severe (like that guy from Australia). And in general, it infuriates me that someone orders others how to grieve. I doubt that if there was a referendum, people would vote for such mourning.

I can accept the mourning and I agree with it despite me being in a part of the world far from the UK.The queen has "ruled" since 1952 or 1953 don't know well and that is a lot of years in which she was one of the most respected figures of the UK and if UK didn't made these days,the national mourning days probably many people would say how heartless the UK and the people there are.

I also am a bit sad because we could not have a weekend of action and predictions in the pool but luckily for us we will have the Champions League in the midweek to make up for this lost weekend.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 10, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

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Yes, I agree. And I would say that such total cancellations really make me angry. I am not against formal gestures like a minute of silence that do not affect anything, but such a scrapping of familiar life for everyone who is not directly related to the queen is complete nonsense. It is like a reminder to the serfs of their place in life. The master said to grieve, so you need to grieve.

That is not even the biggest problem. There are many people that bought tickets for PL games and traveled from far to see their favorite team play. There was some guy on twitter saying that he flew from Australia with his son, a big United fan. It was supposed to be first time boy sees his favorite club play and they paid a shitload of money for tickets to get there. Don't know if that story is true but I am sure there is many similar out there.

Too be fair maybe it is best to cancel all big happenings from simple practical point of view, I don't think rest of the world really understands how much of a stress on London traffic and institutions will this event have. I know I don't and I was quite surprised when reading related articles today.

When I wrote about my anger, I meant such consequences too. For those who are close to the Queen, mourning is normal and won't affect their lives much, but for those who are far from those circles, the consequences can be severe (like that guy from Australia). And in general, it infuriates me that someone orders others how to grieve. I doubt that if there was a referendum, people would vote for such mourning.

As far as I understood this situation, royal family did not demand postponement of PL or any other happenings like concerts. That was the decision of organizing bodies since they believed situation in a country is maybe too problematic organize everything without problems. As I already said, seems a bit unreal to me and I would like to hear opinion from somebody living in London.

I was also surprised that Brighton had to postpone their match cause of railroad strike, seems like total nonsense if you don't know the context of getting to Brighton stadium and their rivalry with C. Palace.

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Quote from: Trofo on September 09, 2022, 04:06:42 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 09, 2022, 09:29:47 AM

Yes, I agree. And I would say that such total cancellations really make me angry. I am not against formal gestures like a minute of silence that do not affect anything, but such a scrapping of familiar life for everyone who is not directly related to the queen is complete nonsense. It is like a reminder to the serfs of their place in life. The master said to grieve, so you need to grieve.

That is not even the biggest problem. There are many people that bought tickets for PL games and traveled from far to see their favorite team play. There was some guy on twitter saying that he flew from Australia with his son, a big United fan. It was supposed to be first time boy sees his favorite club play and they paid a shitload of money for tickets to get there. Don't know if that story is true but I am sure there is many similar out there.

Too be fair maybe it is best to cancel all big happenings from simple practical point of view, I don't think rest of the world really understands how much of a stress on London traffic and institutions will this event have. I know I don't and I was quite surprised when reading related articles today.

When I wrote about my anger, I meant such consequences too. For those who are close to the Queen, mourning is normal and won't affect their lives much, but for those who are far from those circles, the consequences can be severe (like that guy from Australia). And in general, it infuriates me that someone orders others how to grieve. I doubt that if there was a referendum, people would vote for such mourning.

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Quote from: Welsh on September 09, 2022, 04:24:15 AM

Wales, and Scotland probably the only exceptions. Some sour tastes in the mouth of Welsh people in particular with the Aberfan incident. Other than that she's probably well respect, and it seems a lot of Americans adored her for what ever reason that may be. She was a big draw in terms of tourism, and I don't think we'll get that with Charles.

Judging by how Royal Mail was on strike today, but now are in work. I'd say the Premier League would be unaffected. Like I said, just moments of silence, and probably a lot of her name mentioned. They'll probably have a few graphics up, and a bit of history before the games too.

EDIT: Never mind, all sporting events in the UK have been postponed. Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/62846756

I have met actually one Scottish person and plenty of Irish persons (in oil and gas there are a lot of them which was my old work) who actually not only don't care about the royals in UK but actually dislike them a lot. I have to admit I don't know much about Welsh people and how they feel, but yeah I think in this particular case, she is well respected. Usually about incidents they blame the Prime Minister (but police violence in the past usually that's the royal blame, at least in my country it is, because our police has "Royal" in front of their names.

Just take this break, I do feel Liverpool need it a lot!!

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Too be fair maybe it is best to cancel all big happenings from simple practical point of view, I don't think rest of the world really understands how much of a stress on London traffic and institutions will this event have. I know I don't and I was quite surprised when reading related articles today.

I agree. It's such a big thing that even traffic might lead to violence later when matches can't fill up. Then again, in our biggest demonstrations when streets were blocked, they just made the football games even more fun to watch

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 09, 2022, 05:53:51 AM

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EDIT: Never mind, all sporting events in the UK have been postponed. Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/62846756

Yep. It's official:

"This weekend's match round to be postponed as a mark of respect for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II"

government told them they can go ahead with weekend football and but the FA have the final word in this and they decided it's better to postpone the whole thing. *sigh* weekend ruined

For us football fans especially not in england the weekend is ruined and hopefully this is the only round that will be postponed in the premier league. But for england people i think this is a correct decision because their queen passed away so we can pause for this week

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 09, 2022, 09:29:47 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on September 09, 2022, 09:15:46 AM

They should have had a minute's silence at the most, no need to pointlessly cancel things. Do they think the British people are going to be beside themselves with grief or something? Most people couldn't care less about the queen or the monarchy. Personally I don't even think we should have a minutes silence for any deaths. Not only is it a completely hollow gesture but who gets to decide who is worthy enough for a minute of silence? They often have them for 'big' football players but I'm sure most others are forgotten. I remember when that Rhys Jones kid got shot and killed in Liverpool years ago and they had a minutes silence or round of applause for him at Everton. Well great, but how many other kids from Liverpool died that week that get nothing? If you're going to have them then have a minutes silence before every game for everybody else who has died that week. The queen isn't more important than anyone else and neither is a former professional football player.

I wonder if the Leeds game on Monday is cancelled too?

Yes, I agree. And I would say that such total cancellations really make me angry. I am not against formal gestures like a minute of silence that do not affect anything, but such a scrapping of familiar life for everyone who is not directly related to the queen is complete nonsense. It is like a reminder to the serfs of their place in life. The master said to grieve, so you need to grieve.

That is not even the biggest problem. There are many people that bought tickets for PL games and traveled from far to see their favorite team play. There was some guy on twitter saying that he flew from Australia with his son, a big United fan. It was supposed to be first time boy sees his favorite club play and they paid a shitload of money for tickets to get there. Don't know if that story is true but I am sure there is many similar out there.

Too be fair maybe it is best to cancel all big happenings from simple practical point of view, I don't think rest of the world really understands how much of a stress on London traffic and institutions will this event have. I know I don't and I was quite surprised when reading related articles today.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on September 09, 2022, 09:15:46 AM

They should have had a minute's silence at the most, no need to pointlessly cancel things. Do they think the British people are going to be beside themselves with grief or something? Most people couldn't care less about the queen or the monarchy. Personally I don't even think we should have a minutes silence for any deaths. Not only is it a completely hollow gesture but who gets to decide who is worthy enough for a minute of silence? They often have them for 'big' football players but I'm sure most others are forgotten. I remember when that Rhys Jones kid got shot and killed in Liverpool years ago and they had a minutes silence or round of applause for him at Everton. Well great, but how many other kids from Liverpool died that week that get nothing? If you're going to have them then have a minutes silence before every game for everybody else who has died that week. The queen isn't more important than anyone else and neither is a former professional football player.

I wonder if the Leeds game on Monday is cancelled too?

Yes, I agree. And I would say that such total cancellations really make me angry. I am not against formal gestures like a minute of silence that do not affect anything, but such a scrapping of familiar life for everyone who is not directly related to the queen is complete nonsense. It is like a reminder to the serfs of their place in life. The master said to grieve, so you need to grieve.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on September 09, 2022, 09:15:46 AM

I wonder if the Leeds game on Monday is cancelled too?

Yes it is, it's the entire Gameweek that got postponed.

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For the Champions League games I think the team should play as it is 4 days after the death of the queen and I don't think England should be mourning forever for the death of a queen no matter how legendary she was,as the saying says life goes on.

It will be an over doing if it should happen imo, I mean Shakthar Donetsk and the Ukraine league at large are playing despite the on going war which is literally of more significance, in their country.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 09, 2022, 05:53:51 AM

government told them they can go ahead with weekend football and but the FA have the final word in this and they decided it's better to postpone the whole thing. *sigh* weekend ruined

Yeah, like I understand the gesture, but why would you opt to be miserable, and completely focus on mourning. People usually want to occupy themselves when something like this happens. I'm not meaning to be disrespectful when I say this, but it might be a silver lining for Liverpool having the games cancelled, since we've been awful, and it gives us time to sort things out without the pressure of a game, and our injury list to hopefully shorten.

It's more like what the media might make of it and the agenda that might rise if the FA chose to continue.

I'm sure over the weekend you'd have found shit loads of narratives and critics ranting about how disrespectful the decision of the FA is if the fixtures are to continue, and It's better to just avoid the whole drama that could unfold for that altogether.

I'm just glad that there are other sporting events to look forward to, even if they choose to sacrifice next week fixtures as well (I doubt it will happen btw), but will the England big teams be able to cope if the UCL home team matches during the midweek are to be affected too ?

The games of the weekend will be postponed,at least this is what all websites that give us the livescore results say postponed because of national mourning day for both tomorrow and after tomorrow games.

For the Champions League games I think the team should play as it is 4 days after the death of the queen and I don't think England should be mourning forever for the death of a queen no matter how legendary she was,as the saying says life goes on.

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Quote from: Welsh on September 09, 2022, 06:01:26 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 09, 2022, 05:53:51 AM

government told them they can go ahead with weekend football and but the FA have the final word in this and they decided it's better to postpone the whole thing. *sigh* weekend ruined

Yeah, like I understand the gesture, but why would you opt to be miserable, and completely focus on mourning. People usually want to occupy themselves when something like this happens. I'm not meaning to be disrespectful when I say this, but it might be a silver lining for Liverpool having the games cancelled, since we've been awful, and it gives us time to sort things out without the pressure of a game, and our injury list to hopefully shorten.

At least I still have the UFC to look forward too since that's an American organisation. However, I do believe all comedy, and all British sports have been cancelled. So, horse racing, golf, basically everything. So, a lot of people are going to be lost this weekend.

They should have had a minute's silence at the most, no need to pointlessly cancel things. Do they think the British people are going to be beside themselves with grief or something? Most people couldn't care less about the queen or the monarchy. Personally I don't even think we should have a minutes silence for any deaths. Not only is it a completely hollow gesture but who gets to decide who is worthy enough for a minute of silence? They often have them for 'big' football players but I'm sure most others are forgotten. I remember when that Rhys Jones kid got shot and killed in Liverpool years ago and they had a minutes silence or round of applause for him at Everton. Well great, but how many other kids from Liverpool died that week that get nothing? If you're going to have them then have a minutes silence before every game for everybody else who has died that week. The queen isn't more important than anyone else and neither is a former professional football player.

I wonder if the Leeds game on Monday is cancelled too?

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Quote from: Welsh on September 09, 2022, 06:01:26 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 09, 2022, 05:53:51 AM

government told them they can go ahead with weekend football and but the FA have the final word in this and they decided it's better to postpone the whole thing. *sigh* weekend ruined

Yeah, like I understand the gesture, but why would you opt to be miserable, and completely focus on mourning. People usually want to occupy themselves when something like this happens. I'm not meaning to be disrespectful when I say this, but it might be a silver lining for Liverpool having the games cancelled, since we've been awful, and it gives us time to sort things out without the pressure of a game, and our injury list to hopefully shorten.

Hmm yeah. I get it in some cultures, decorum, mourning, but I think tributes are better, even more respectful -- still, I agree with you, it'll be a much-needed break for many teams though, Liverpool first in line. I was really holding my breath for Matip and Thiago to not worsen their injuries with their 2nd half in Napoli.

I know hindsight sucks but hope we really do away with the shitty preseason we did in Thailand. I bet you that's had an effect on us (and we spent the team in Community Shield).

I'm definitely using the weekend to sleep, though La Liga and Serie A might tempt me.

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