Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 608. (Read 143372 times)

@hilarious yeah longshot away bets I don't mind if I'm fairly confident of the team and fairly certain the favourites are going to be problematic, and for sure I don't even make any calls on those kind of tips more than 24 hours before the game. Too much can change then, but right now, on evidence of form, the best Hammers can do is take a point of Chelsea.

Trofo, hilarious, Re betting, I agree with treating gambling as a form of entertainment and it's exactly how I see it, whether it's a one-off at a casino on a holiday, or a season of football. I pay good money for a night out, or a good film at a fancy setting, and I consider a season long bankroll for football an additional aspect of the entertainment. I wish I'd tracked things more properly over the years, but kind of like how I don't really track my expenditures on books or other form of entertainment, as long as I know at max I spent what I can afford to lose.

Having said that, my recent tracking does give a sense of how shitty a sports tipster I really am;) If not for the occasional lucky strikes, like Newcastle beating City, I'm deep in the red.

That doesn't work for me, i need to have a spreadsheet:
1. Big bank - i don't feel comfortable depositing large amounts to any single entity
2. Multiple sites - I am using at least 4 betting sites regularly, 2 domestic ones (fiat) and 2 crypto (nitrogen, wbet7). When you start entering bets in spreadsheet and see how much of $ difference you get for a little bit better odds..... It really compounds at the end of year. While I was betting only in fiat as per regulations in my Country I had to pay 5% of every stake. Doesn't sound like much. But a the end of year i had a profit of about 1500$, without that 5% I would have profit of more than 10000$.
3. More detailed statistic - I am keeping track of various stats. Like % of win on doubles, trebles, multiples. Then % of wins trough different sports and even leagues. That is why i know that I have by far best results on Champions League and ATP1000 tennis tournaments, while I am awful in Grand Slams and Europa League. Helps a lot with stake management.


This could be one of those language barrier things. I also treat trading as investment as well as buying BTC obviously. I treat everything I expect return on, as investment. I consider all 3 of above mentioned as high risk investments but at this stage in my life that is the only kind I have enough money for  
And always, only use cash you can afford to lose.

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I really need a good crypto accepting betting site. By good I mean reputable, without limits and with best possible odds (smallest margins). Bitcoin rush has good odds/margins and markets but user experience is terrible, nitrogen is lagging a bit on odds and very much on markets while wbet7 could have better odds. Have I missed anything really good?

I can't use non local fiat betting sites because of probable tax problems down the line. And local ones take 5% of your stake + 10% of your winnings which is horrible and make serious betting impossible.

Three more games tonight, just going to go & review what I put because I did them all last week. Every point is vital now as oeleo & panjul hanging around me like a bad smell, I just can not get rid of them (joke guys).

You don't need to bother with a spreadsheet if you just use a bookies that tells you your profit or loss. Skybet gives you the stats for 7 days, 30 days and 12 months. I'm sure others do as well. Either put x amount into your account every week (until you've built up a nice profit and you don't need to) or put in a lump sum for your bankroll that you're prepared to lose and if you do lose it then cut your losses and just quit. Hopefully that won't be the case and you can keep playing with your profits which is what I do and withdraw it at the end of the season or keep it there and keep going. People should be keeping track of their wins and losses because you'll have no idea how much you're truly winning or losing and things can go off the deep end if you don't. I think treating gambling like you do trading or with investing in bitcoin is a good idea (only play with what you can afford to lose), though I'd feel a little off calling gambling an investment personally. 

I see betting as investment. You have to put money aside (bank) and limit yourself with budget as percentage of your bank. Let' say every bet is 2% of your bank and you can never run out of the money. If it is going well, bank and money grows and if it isn't, you make smaller and smaller bets until it picks up again. Obviously, for serious betting you need large bank but you can try it with very small amounts and see if it works for you. Real money maker here is to learn when to bet with max stake (up to 5%) and when to play just for fun (less than 0.5%). That is only way that works for me. Everything else I tried I just end up loosing money.

Best advice I could give you, start recording your bets in spreadsheet and check your ROI after every month. If you are always in the red you have to change something or bet just for fun and consider betting as another expense.

I think with betting it's best to see it as entertainment and a bit of fun rather than a way to make money. Sticking to £25 a week is cheaper than a night out or a takeaway and it adds extra excitement to the weekend for me so win or lose I've spent £25 on entertainment. If you stick to a bankroll and only betting a certain amount each week things won't spiral out of control and you won't start to chase your losses. When the Premier/Champions League is over I don't bet at all unless there's an international tournament on, but I stick to £100-£150 for my bankroll for that.

^  Hah!  Nice!  I'll try those next season.

And I think I need to take to take the games less seriously and try to have more fun  with it.  Ever since I've been looking at more 'stats' and trying to make some sort of 'betting system', I've been losing.  Lol.

I've done even better in previous seasons. Last year I was only about £500 profit but the ones before that were £1k plus and over £3k before that. Think I was over £5k profit on the 2014 World Cup and following Premier League season combined (though I won over £500 on the opening game when Brazil won 3-1 and I got the correct score and Neymar to score). I strictly stick to three folds for football. Any more and you're unlikely to win. I usually play Skybet's enhanced Saturday offer as well and it usually comes in more often or not. Sometimes I might get experimental with my free £5 bet though. Maybe stick a draw or two in on the games that I can't call.

Won again last night with the Skybet boosts:



Only £50 profit but better than nothing.


I've thought about going higher stakes but don't want to go to crazy. Obviously the higher the stake the bigger the win but also bigger the loss. I could quickly lose my bank roll if I'm doing those stakes, but given my winning history going higher odds would make sense, though statistically my luck can't last forever. Maybe I'll see how much I have in my bankroll at the end of the season and move up to £100 bets or something. It's all profit so far so even if I lose that I'm still up. Don't want to throw it all away though.


Kinda already explained it. I tend to stick to threefolds on the favourites at odds of 4-5/1 or more. They obviously don't always win but I'm usually up over the month and sometimes I hit winning streaks where I'm 3-500 up a month. Sticking to a limit also helps. I usually do £25 stakes every week though double when Champions League is on. Look out for Skybet's enhanced accumulators. As above, they give you an option of going with the draw and other team winning on the closer matches which is sometimes good to put on to cover your bases. Betting £25 a week will also get you a free bet which gives you a chance to try get your money back at least or even more if you go experimental. Won a few hundred quid a couple of times from my free bets.


I wouldn't back West Ham away. Maybe at home, but those sorts of games I tend to go for draws.

@Ronnie hey there, sponsor! Good to see you here. Wasn't aware you had a tipster. Does he or she share bet amounts and stake sizes too or is it a non-betting tipster programme?

I like the tip, but Chelsea have a way of see sawing between performances. They should have lost their last game, so that form means they should play well in their next couple of matches. But Hammers aren't a shit team anyway!

I haven't bet against City in a while but got 2 of their upsets right, so my leaning is for Cardiff to pull out all their frustrations against City, who aren't really that good to get into scrapes. So I smell a draw, unless Cardiff surprise me and actually try to play good football. 0.5 handicap at 11/1 anyone?

@MakeMoneyBtc - Our tipster managed to get 6/6 one week in March so I wouldn't discount West Ham completely just yet. If Chelsea don't pull out a convincing win against Brighton they could start the next game with their heads down - especially if Sarri can't motivate the team.

Hows about this - if Chelsea wins I'll give you 20 free spins on one of our most popular slots, but if West Ham wins you have to share our next soccer tips blog somewhere!  

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

Wtfff.  Teach us master. 

No, seriously...  How do you do it.  Been losing some for a couple of years now.  Lol.  It's like I'm leaking money, it's not even funny anymore.

I don't see any good reason why Chelsea would lose that match as the fight for that 4th place in Premier League is so intense. I've watched the match against Everton and they were just dominated, barely getting to Everton target as they had only one shot on target the whole match. Chelsea desperately needs this victory and I don't think they will miss this opportunity to get an easy 3 points.

Our usual football tipster has pulled a prediction for West ham to beat Chelsea on Monday (8.86).

From the blog:

"Maurizio Sarri’s treatment of Callum Hudson-Odoi over the weekend has proven that the Italian cannot handle managing a team of Chelsea’s calibre, and his days are clearly numbered. Their dreadful performance at Cardiff City last weekend was not masked by their victory, and so West Ham United will feel confident of causing an upset.

The visitors will return to a more securely structured 4-5-1 after the disaster against Everton, allowing them to sit deep, absorb Chelsea’s aimless possession, and break quickly on the counter. The disorganisation in the Chelsea defence makes them vulnerable to the pace of Michail Antonio and Marko Aurnautovic, while Declan Rice will probably get the better of Eden Hazard."

What do you think of the Hammers chances? With odds of around 8.86 I'm thinking it's at least worth a punt before Chelsea play Brighton on Wednesday, the result of that game could change the odds dramatically.

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

I'm all over you like a newbie on a shitcoin.

oeleo & panjul just won’t go away
I can’t shake them off. I think just like the PL title race, the pool is going right to the wire.

Seeing all the articles online now, some asking if Liverpool's rode their final stretch of luck, some wondering if this is destiny talking, but I guess I'm the most glad Dejan Lovren hasn't opened his mouth yet!

The noise even on TV was good. And if I heard right, apart from the momentary hush, Anfield continued to roar even after the equaliser. I think you, I and everyone thought "well this is it, fun journey". Salah then replied, "whoa, hang on a moment, let's dream some more".

Fantastic reading. Let's see what happens to half of the big six today.

Put in predictions guys. These were only recently added due to match fixtures postponed.

Nice.

That is my favorite way of betting as well. I usually play doubles or trebles with total odds ranging from 2.5-4.5. My stake is usually a bit higher, if I am happy with chosen games I place around 100$ on it and if the games are chosen on days like today when choice is tough I lower my stakes to "fun" range of maybe 5$.

@buwaytress - I had my head in my hands when they equalised, I was starting to accept we’d drop points which could have been so harmful.

There were legs & arms all over the place when the winner went in. Incredible scenes, a guy near me fell down 3 rows of seats

Brilliant!

@hilarious - Wow, you are doing well. I lost a 4 fold (both teams to score by 1 goal - M’boro failed to score vs Norwich).

@oeleo - It’s so close, we both got 14.5 poikts

I'm glad Liverpool won as I want them to win the title, but that late goal cost me a perfect score  .


What's wrong with accumulators? I win most of my money on three folds. I usually put £25 on them and look for minimum odds of 4/1.
Just hit over £1k profit in the past 12 months recently:



I usually do much better as well. The only tournaments I've ever lost money on so far are the the last Euros and World Cup. Only lost my £100 bankroll which was all profit from previous seasons so still no losses in the grand scheme of things.

Lololol.  I don't think Poch will be winning trophies with the Spurs and I think he'll be leaving before his contract expires...  To United.  Yes, United.  Solksjaer will be given the sack on December (with a care taker manager finishing the season) with Poch taking over to start the next season.