Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 621. (Read 146575 times)

^ ^  Heh ok...  I was hoping an HU battle in Chinese Poker at SWC for the whole 30m bucks.  Lololol.  Anyway whoever wins the league works too.  Less exciting tho.  

Edit:  How to Play Chinese Poker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCVD1ENZUww

Just in case you change your mind. 

I'm of course going to back Trofo to win, but I think the spirit of the game is correct and less troublesome (higher finish on the official Premier League table at the end of the season). Actually, I think at this stage it's even safe enough to say whichever team you back becomes champions.

Let's not forget, there is the highly unlikely but still possible event a team could be docked points by the FA... and that's at their discretion if either team say, "brings the game into disrepute". Would that impact the bet? I recall a similar case in Serie A with some friends when Juventus were stripped of their title. We didn't ask for refunds though haha.

P.S. You should look up Chinese poker some day, it's highly addictive for a laugh and is more strategic than basic poker.

Thanks for the help. Our wording could have been better I admit 

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WTF is Chinese Poker at SWC? Please enlighten me and maybe you'll sway me to your way of resolving ties  I would also envoy a coin flip while watching Champions League final in some pub with pint of beer (I believe it is after PL ends) but probably unfeasible due to geographical discrepancies.

A bit more seriously, despite our not ideal wording I thought the spirit of the bet was to correctly predict which team will end in front of other. What is good enough for official PL is good enough for me. So if you agree, let's make it that winner is the one whose team is officially crowned as champion.

^  Hah!  I forgot about that tbh.  If level on points, maybe the winner could be decided by goal difference (boring), a coin flip (interesting, but how and where), a poker game (hopefully Chinese Poker at SWC )...?

Trofo can choose, but I hope it's the final option.  Lol (no seriously, the final option).

Allow me, gentlemen! Quoted the post below mine.

To sum up, $30 to:
tokeweed if City finish with higher points than Liverpool at end of season.
Trofo if Liverpool finish with higher points than City at end of season.

The way you guys made it, though, it seems level on points would mean bets are off?

We also have a CL pool I'm still in with a shout! And don't forget to put your picks in. Friday night action with Newcastle, who I'm backing just shy of 6/1. They aren't great away and Leicester are incredible after a Vardy revival, but Friday is Friday, and anything can happen and I'd love for Rafa to confirm attendance in Premier League asap. GO TOON ARMY =p

Hey guys, I know I have a side bet (30$?) with one of you for the winner of PL but don't remember the particulars. Please refresh my memory, not what it used to be 

Currently on the mobile so I wasn't able to find related posts in this thread. Anyway it looks every bit a tight race as it was on the day the bet was made. Maybe the odds shifted a little bit on my competitor side.

Still, even if they were out of the CL, they'd still have some tougher matches to play.  The Manchester derby is still in a couple of weeks ffs.

And they got Palace away this weekend.  You never really know with Palace when they're at home.  They got Tottenham again in the league, right after their CL match.  Then Burnley away.  That's kinda tough too.

We'll see soon enough but I am expecting Spurs to play another great game and make things difficult for the City. Before the first game i had a feeling this one could go into extra time and I still think so, just tough we would have draws and Spurs surprised me and won first game. Who knows how would the game developed if Lloris didn't save the penalty in the early stage of the match.

I still think they’ll get past Spurs & make the CL semi final even though they lost the 1st leg 1-0.
But yeah....it’d be great if they put all their efforts into making the CL final & had a couple of slip ups in the PL

^  Yup tougher matches for City.  That's why City has the kind of squad (and the bench) they have.  I think they're really going for the quadruple even tho Pep keeps saying it's impossible.  He's prolly just trying to take the edgy feeling off his players.  Lol.

@buwaytress - Yeah we might have shot ourselves in the foot after this week's performances, the National League is going to go right down to the wire! 

I mentioned in the other EPL thread that I'm still backing Liverpool to win the title. I've just had a look at the remaining games and I'm predicting 13 points for Liverpool and 14 for Man City, meaning the Reds would take the league by a point.

Final Four Prediction:

Liverpool - 95 points
Man City - 94 points
Tottenham - 76 points
Chelsea - 74 points

Arsenal have some key players that seem to be struggling to perform, and Man Utd have a couple of tricky fixtures in the last few games.

Ronnie @ Cloudbet 

Does Eddie Howe have a hair dryer?  I think he needs to use it right about now on Begovic.  Lol.

It's a good first half so far, Bournemouth vs Burnley.  But not as fun to watch when you're bet isn't on the right club. 

@Cloudbet, awesome and yes I recall the Leyton Orient mention in another thread (don't know if you recall my own association with them from a video game haha). I'm really behind in my football these days tbh, but I still faithfully keep up with Liverpool ever since I started properly following circa 2000 running up to their "haul of five". I really only couldn't watch them for the majority of seasons around 2011 and then again in 2015/16, but that was because of work in places without tv or internet. You're 7 games away from promotion, so good luck;)

@LFC you bet I am! I was up since 5am trying to rush off all my pending work so I can make dinner early and then sit by myself and watch. I'm going to keep betting singles on Lpool till the last game, and keep betting against City till the last game. I know they're too good to drop more than 2 point but who knows? The stars may yet align!

@buwaytree - You looking forward to the game tomorrow night - S’ton vs LFC?

Really is a must win isn’t it. We need to keep up with City until they have this run of gsmes -

C Palace (A)
Spurs (H)
United (A)
Burnley (A)

That’s 3 out of 4 games away from home. I believe they’ll drop points in at least 1 of those games.
We need to beat S’ton tomorrow & I believe we will.

I got offered 2 x tickets for tomorrow but turned them down. Friday night game, Southampton is fucking miles away too. I worked out I wouldn’t get home until about 3 - 4 in the morning because it’s an 8pm kick off. With the football traffic & getting away from the ground it’d be late AF.

Any way 3 points tomo - COME ON YOU REDS !!!!

@buwaytress - We have a bunch of guest writers and tipsters for various sports and topics, you can usually find them all at the Cloudbet blog under the 'previews' tab.

We are always on the lookout for new writers (and we pay in btc!) so if anyone thinks they are up to the challenge then feel free to hit up [email protected] for further info. 

When it comes to soccer betting I tend to stick to the National League as it's where I have the most knowledge. It's mostly bets placed against my team (Leyton Orient) so I'm happy with either a win for the team or some consolation winnings for the pub afterwards! That said, if I see some tasty odds on an EPL game I'm often tempted into dropping a small wager, especially if it's one I'm planning to watch live with friends.

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

@hilarious yeah longshot away bets I don't mind if I'm fairly confident of the team and fairly certain the favourites are going to be problematic, and for sure I don't even make any calls on those kind of tips more than 24 hours before the game. Too much can change then, but right now, on evidence of form, the best Hammers can do is take a point of Chelsea.

Trofo, hilarious, Re betting, I agree with treating gambling as a form of entertainment and it's exactly how I see it, whether it's a one-off at a casino on a holiday, or a season of football. I pay good money for a night out, or a good film at a fancy setting, and I consider a season long bankroll for football an additional aspect of the entertainment. I wish I'd tracked things more properly over the years, but kind of like how I don't really track my expenditures on books or other form of entertainment, as long as I know at max I spent what I can afford to lose.

Having said that, my recent tracking does give a sense of how shitty a sports tipster I really am;) If not for the occasional lucky strikes, like Newcastle beating City, I'm deep in the red.

That doesn't work for me, i need to have a spreadsheet:
1. Big bank - i don't feel comfortable depositing large amounts to any single entity
2. Multiple sites - I am using at least 4 betting sites regularly, 2 domestic ones (fiat) and 2 crypto (nitrogen, wbet7). When you start entering bets in spreadsheet and see how much of $ difference you get for a little bit better odds..... It really compounds at the end of year. While I was betting only in fiat as per regulations in my Country I had to pay 5% of every stake. Doesn't sound like much. But a the end of year i had a profit of about 1500$, without that 5% I would have profit of more than 10000$.
3. More detailed statistic - I am keeping track of various stats. Like % of win on doubles, trebles, multiples. Then % of wins trough different sports and even leagues. That is why i know that I have by far best results on Champions League and ATP1000 tennis tournaments, while I am awful in Grand Slams and Europa League. Helps a lot with stake management.


This could be one of those language barrier things. I also treat trading as investment as well as buying BTC obviously. I treat everything I expect return on, as investment. I consider all 3 of above mentioned as high risk investments but at this stage in my life that is the only kind I have enough money for  
And always, only use cash you can afford to lose.

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I really need a good crypto accepting betting site. By good I mean reputable, without limits and with best possible odds (smallest margins). Bitcoin rush has good odds/margins and markets but user experience is terrible, nitrogen is lagging a bit on odds and very much on markets while wbet7 could have better odds. Have I missed anything really good?

I can't use non local fiat betting sites because of probable tax problems down the line. And local ones take 5% of your stake + 10% of your winnings which is horrible and make serious betting impossible.

Three more games tonight, just going to go & review what I put because I did them all last week. Every point is vital now as oeleo & panjul hanging around me like a bad smell, I just can not get rid of them (joke guys).

You don't need to bother with a spreadsheet if you just use a bookies that tells you your profit or loss. Skybet gives you the stats for 7 days, 30 days and 12 months. I'm sure others do as well. Either put x amount into your account every week (until you've built up a nice profit and you don't need to) or put in a lump sum for your bankroll that you're prepared to lose and if you do lose it then cut your losses and just quit. Hopefully that won't be the case and you can keep playing with your profits which is what I do and withdraw it at the end of the season or keep it there and keep going. People should be keeping track of their wins and losses because you'll have no idea how much you're truly winning or losing and things can go off the deep end if you don't. I think treating gambling like you do trading or with investing in bitcoin is a good idea (only play with what you can afford to lose), though I'd feel a little off calling gambling an investment personally. 

I see betting as investment. You have to put money aside (bank) and limit yourself with budget as percentage of your bank. Let' say every bet is 2% of your bank and you can never run out of the money. If it is going well, bank and money grows and if it isn't, you make smaller and smaller bets until it picks up again. Obviously, for serious betting you need large bank but you can try it with very small amounts and see if it works for you. Real money maker here is to learn when to bet with max stake (up to 5%) and when to play just for fun (less than 0.5%). That is only way that works for me. Everything else I tried I just end up loosing money.

Best advice I could give you, start recording your bets in spreadsheet and check your ROI after every month. If you are always in the red you have to change something or bet just for fun and consider betting as another expense.