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Quote from: KTChampions on August 11, 2021, 08:28:28 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on August 11, 2021, 04:28:42 AM

In all honesty, I'd hate to see chess be part of the Olympic tournament. Chess is more a game than a sport, if we allow chess, what's next? Poker? It is also popular and has a lot of big tournaments but of course it can never be an Olympic sport, so why would chess be one?

The same goes for eSports - I understand we live in a technically advanced age and I understand eSports are the next big thing. Give them their own competition, it will probably even be bigger than Olympic games. Just please don't mix the two because they are nowhere near the same.

What do you mean by game and sport? In most cases, a game can be a sport, and why is the game of football represented at the Olympics, but not chess? Or table tennis?
If you think that chess requires little physical effort, then you are mistaken, in my youth I knew a man who is now an international grandmaster and he regularly visited the gym because he said that otherwise it would be impossible to spend 7-8 hours a day at the chessboard.

That's a good counter. In order for the brain to work properly you also need your physical body to be in shape. Yes, I agree with you. The effort is still there especially when they put that "timer" thing beside you that will challenge you more on how to think faster.
Before they don't have that, chess is also upgrading their game. I think they should also put a spot for chess in the Olympics. It's a game that doesn't require athleticism but the brain functioning to an extent we can't understand is something to be considered.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 11, 2021, 04:28:42 AM

In all honesty, I'd hate to see chess be part of the Olympic tournament. Chess is more a game than a sport, if we allow chess, what's next? Poker? It is also popular and has a lot of big tournaments but of course it can never be an Olympic sport, so why would chess be one?

The same goes for eSports - I understand we live in a technically advanced age and I understand eSports are the next big thing. Give them their own competition, it will probably even be bigger than Olympic games. Just please don't mix the two because they are nowhere near the same.

What do you mean by game and sport? In most cases, a game can be a sport, and why is the game of football represented at the Olympics, but not chess? Or table tennis?
If you think that chess requires little physical effort, then you are mistaken, in my youth I knew a man who is now an international grandmaster and he regularly visited the gym because he said that otherwise it would be impossible to spend 7-8 hours a day at the chessboard.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 11, 2021, 04:28:42 AM

In all honesty, I'd hate to see chess be part of the Olympic tournament. Chess is more a game than a sport, if we allow chess, what's next? Poker? It is also popular and has a lot of big tournaments but of course it can never be an Olympic sport, so why would chess be one?

The same goes for eSports - I understand we live in a technically advanced age and I understand eSports are the next big thing. Give them their own competition, it will probably even be bigger than Olympic games. Just please don't mix the two because they are nowhere near the same.

I agree! I think there are still many sports that require a physical effort and overcoming, which must first enter the Olympic games, before entering games of a psychological nature.

And indeed, they should never be in the same category as other games. It makes more sense to create specific Olympic Games for this type of sport.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 10, 2021, 11:14:52 AM

In relation to Chess, it is curious to know how the International Chess Federation has been trying over the last few years to try to be an Olympic sport.
https://bolavip.com/en/sports/tokyo-2020-why-is-chess-not-an-olympic-sport-20210718-0005.html

But as it allegedly does not require a physical effort, even though it is recognized as a sport, the International Olympic Committee has not accepted this modality.

In all honesty, I'd hate to see chess be part of the Olympic tournament. Chess is more a game than a sport, if we allow chess, what's next? Poker? It is also popular and has a lot of big tournaments but of course it can never be an Olympic sport, so why would chess be one?

The same goes for eSports - I understand we live in a technically advanced age and I understand eSports are the next big thing. Give them their own competition, it will probably even be bigger than Olympic games. Just please don't mix the two because they are nowhere near the same.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 10, 2021, 05:19:32 AM

Quote from: leea-1334 on August 10, 2021, 04:02:07 AM

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See everyone again in 4 years:) We go to France right?

it is actually in three years, since these Olympics were postponed by a year
will be interesting to see, what will be a situation in three years, will there be Covid or restictions at all? last year, when the games where postponed, it seemed that this year will be different and with audience, but obviously Covid is here to stay for at least one year more, and maybe entirely to 2024 and Paris games?

nevertheless, Sports industry is worth more than $471B now, and still rising, so it seems that all money invested is good for return

Ah,,, okay I totally forgot about that actually. I hope Covid and pandemic do not cause more delays because it does seem to be getting worse in some parts of the world. Everything is thrown all around now and sports is already so bunched together tightly, I think maybe instead of postponing they should cancel some big tournaments and allow everyone a real break (but sponsors will not agree of course).

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 10, 2021, 05:07:10 PM

When it seemed all over for the USA team they incredibly managed to complete the run-up to the medal table on the last day not only drawing but also overcoming the China.
INCREDIBLE.

The next appointment is close enough only 177 days to the winter games!

Yeah, I had my huge bet on outright USA won on the final day (phew!). I have to remember not to do that again for only 1.1x return:)

Sports calendar is just crazy this year, it feels like I haven't been able to breathe watching all the games everywhere. Winter Olympics is fun for us over in Asia to watch, skiing of course is the maximum thrill;)

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 10, 2021, 11:14:52 AM

In relation to Chess, it is curious to know how the International Chess Federation has been trying over the last few years to try to be an Olympic sport.
https://bolavip.com/en/sports/tokyo-2020-why-is-chess-not-an-olympic-sport-20210718-0005.html

But as it allegedly does not require a physical effort, even though it is recognized as a sport, the International Olympic Committee has not accepted this modality.

I am getting confused. If it doesn't require a physical effort, how can it even be classified as a sport? The same goes for e-Sport as well. Sports was designed to increase the physical activity and maintain the fitness levels. But here we are increasingly moving away from physical sports (the International Olympic Committee is now considering to drop sports such as wrestling and Rhythmic Gymnastics). For Chess why can't we have a separate tournament? IMO, it makes no sense to group chess and e-Sports with physical sports.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 10, 2021, 05:07:10 PM

When it seemed all over for the USA team they incredibly managed to complete the run-up to the medal table on the last day not only drawing but also overcoming the China.
INCREDIBLE.

In recent days they also had more athletes participating than China. In addition, there were also the finals of competitions where they are usually very strong, such as basketball.

The difference was even a performance below expectations in athletics tests, causing them to lag a little behind.

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Quote from: South Park on August 10, 2021, 04:07:07 PM

There is a decent chance that a great deal of the athletes that performed well during the Olympic Games will also do so during the next ones, and the reason is very simple unlike the regular wait of four years for the next games they will only have to wait for three, while this doesn't seem to make a lot of difference it makes all the difference in the world as most of those athletes are still going to be in top physical shape and will have an easier time defending their medals.

In most sports, reaching peak shape takes no more than 6 months, so this timing shift is unlikely to have any meaning for athletes. The postponement was only important for the destruction of the athletes who were preparing for the games and they were canceled, now that everything is more or less predictable (I hope the Winter Olympic Games will not be suddenly canceled) everything is going according to plan.

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When it seemed all over for the USA team they incredibly managed to complete the run-up to the medal table on the last day not only drawing but also overcoming the China.
INCREDIBLE.

The next appointment is close enough only 177 days to the winter games!

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 09, 2021, 03:45:52 PM

Before the thread will be closed, just want to congratulate our delegates.

First time in our country PH to received that number of medals in the Olympics. Hope we can have the same streak on Paris Olympics 2024. Our delegates are now currently enjoying the perks and benefits they received.

After a year, they now planned to get back on training. It will take again years of practice to ensure that they are fully ready in the next Summer Olympics.

There is a decent chance that a great deal of the athletes that performed well during the Olympic Games will also do so during the next ones, and the reason is very simple unlike the regular wait of four years for the next games they will only have to wait for three, while this doesn't seem to make a lot of difference it makes all the difference in the world as most of those athletes are still going to be in top physical shape and will have an easier time defending their medals.

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Quote from: acroman08 on August 10, 2021, 10:06:06 AM

Quote from: Kittygalore on August 10, 2021, 07:56:24 AM

Also, the breakdancing part, what the hell wast that? I don't think that it's a sport, that's just for me, I think dancing and other stuff should have it's own league, what they need to add is chess or eSports.

why not? breakdancing requires skill and physical exertion just like any other sport out there. so, why exclude it? if you ask me, including breakdancing and e-Sport it is a great way to introduce the younger generation to the world of sport. as for chess, I think they should include it too along with e-Sport and breakdancing.

In relation to Chess, it is curious to know how the International Chess Federation has been trying over the last few years to try to be an Olympic sport.
https://bolavip.com/en/sports/tokyo-2020-why-is-chess-not-an-olympic-sport-20210718-0005.html

But as it allegedly does not require a physical effort, even though it is recognized as a sport, the International Olympic Committee has not accepted this modality.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on August 10, 2021, 07:56:24 AM

I thought that Olympics takes 4 years after the other one? Man, I must be tripping real hard.

It is. just like what joker_jouse said the Tokyo Olympic being postponed for a year is the reason why there is a smaller gap between the Tokyo Olympics and Paris Olympics.

Quote from: Kittygalore on August 10, 2021, 07:56:24 AM

Also, the breakdancing part, what the hell wast that? I don't think that it's a sport, that's just for me, I think dancing and other stuff should have it's own league, what they need to add is chess or eSports.

why not? breakdancing requires skill and physical exertion just like any other sport out there. so, why exclude it? if you ask me, including breakdancing and e-Sport it is a great way to introduce the younger generation to the world of sport. as for chess, I think they should include it too along with e-Sport and breakdancing.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 10, 2021, 05:34:17 AM

It's actually been 3 years. The Tokyo games were postponed 1 year, which created a smaller gap between the two Olympic games.
The next games will be in Paris - Paris 2024. There will be some new modalities, such as break dancing.

I thought that Olympics takes 4 years after the other one? Man, I must be tripping real hard. Also, the breakdancing part, what the hell wast that? I don't think that it's a sport, that's just for me, I think dancing and other stuff should have it's own league, what they need to add is chess or eSports.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 10, 2021, 05:19:32 AM

will be interesting to see, what will be a situation in three years, will there be Covid or restictions at all? last year, when the games where postponed, it seemed that this year will be different and with audience, but obviously Covid is here to stay for at least one year more, and maybe entirely to 2024 and Paris games?

I think there will be some restrictions, because it's a global event and involves competitors from almost every nation.

Whilst France and the rest of Europe, and many other countries such as the US will likely be highly vaccinated and have achieved effective herd immunity by that time, probably there will still be many countries where vaccination is still ongoing, and where new vaccine-resistant variants are arising.

... but I'm confident that whilst it will still be around in 2024, it won't be anywhere near as much of an issue as it is now.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on August 10, 2021, 04:02:07 AM

See everyone again in 4 years:) We go to France right?

It's actually been 3 years. The Tokyo games were postponed 1 year, which created a smaller gap between the two Olympic games.
The next games will be in Paris - Paris 2024. There will be some new modalities, such as break dancing.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on August 10, 2021, 04:02:07 AM

~snip
See everyone again in 4 years:) We go to France right?

it is actually in three years, since these Olympics were postponed by a year
will be interesting to see, what will be a situation in three years, will there be Covid or restictions at all? last year, when the games where postponed, it seemed that this year will be different and with audience, but obviously Covid is here to stay for at least one year more, and maybe entirely to 2024 and Paris games?

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Quote from: Cnut237 on August 09, 2021, 01:36:39 PM

This is very true. My country is probably a good example of this. In the 1996 games, the UK managed only 1 gold medal and finished in 36th place overall. It was a real low point, and there was a lot of national shame. After that, the government started channeling large sums of money into elite sport. Then we got awarded the games as a host nation, which increased the focus even more. And since then, the last few games we've finished in the top few places - even coming out second in Rio.

All countries have potentially great athletes, but they need funding to reach that potential.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37150155

Yup, eventually it all comes down to this. Some nations are more naturally talented than others but if you pour enough money in sport, it will be reflected eventually.
That is especially true if your goal is not football or basketball, and the best examples are the Olympics. There are a lot of sports that do not require huge investments and don't have a lot of international competition and where a lot of progress can be made in 1 4-year cycle with enough investment. UK is a great example of that, they are an Olympic heavyhitter currently and were nowhere 20 years ago.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 09, 2021, 03:12:44 PM

Top 1 in South East Asia is already a good achievement for our region.

It's a thing that is difficult to achieve after many years with no medal brought home.

Congrats to our 19 athletes. With the big cash incentives plus bonus even for not a medalist, it will encourage our athletes more to do their best.

I agree with you,,, and cannot deny there is nothing else for the rest of Southeast Asia to say about the dominance there. You guys have not put much funding as compared to other nations but are still able to deliver this results.

See everyone again in 4 years:) We go to France right?

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I would also like to congratulate the delegation from Portugal.

The Mission of Portugal won four medals, one gold, by Pedro Pablo Pichardo, in the triple jump, one silver, by Patrícia Mamona, also in the triple, and in judo and canoeing, bronze medals.

Thus, Portugal was in 56th place in the medal, in a representation in which it achieved another 11 Olympic diplomas.

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