Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1917. (Read 3049501 times)

Pretty soon its where you will need 1Th/s to make revenue and well that all depends on the price of the hardware which will have to really really start to come down for ROI or people will not buy these products.  I truly hope people are not buying bfl mini's at 22k still..

The 62% is the rise the difficulty took in the last 30 days, the stats for this is in the upper left. And i fear it might get even worse. I mean avalon batch 3 miners will ship in the next weeks for sure, the hundred thousand of avalon chips will be shipped in the next weeks, those chips can be overclocked from 282mhz to 450 mhz with burnin's design, which means an even greater rise of difficulty. And then there are all the new chips that should come out. Im not even remembering all the new companies claiming to bring out chips in the next months. It might become hard.

hmm going to http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ this morning and selecting knc Jupiter and sept with all the defaults.. well you can see doesn't look so good right now to the guestimate of diff increase.  I hope we dont see 62% increases.. time will tell since diff is currently changing around every 11 days or so thats about 3 more diff changes before sept 1 give or take.

So yes my questions yesterday about tape-out or more transparency of progress is quite important, I know their stance seems to be limited updates here and their and well nothing in the last few emails going out has made me feel any better about my purchase and with less than 5-6 weeks till sept well you might start to understand my concern, esp if you switch the month to oct using the calculator above.

Of course I do understand we have few variables we do not have much control over, increase in hash to the network, diff % change every 11 or so days and price of btc.

So yes someone from KNC start to shed some info, you already announced that you are shipping in sept, so their is no secret to hide unless time delays which then would cause mass issues and quite a bit of refund requests.

sorry I dont mean to sound grim just look at some numbers as an investor like I do with my stocks and sharing my opinion (which I hope isn't right)

Ya nice tool to calculate with btw select the BFF mini rig which costs 22k and see how much your roi ..

Youre right... paying the half price for the same hashrate but getting it some time later will turn out a worse buy. My new best liked calculator is this one: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
At the moment time is an even bigger factor one thinks. 66% rising difficulty per month. That is huge.

If it's a private contract, they can only go so far detailing specifics before breaking NDAs, they said this much at the open day. It's standard business practice.

Their largest ASIC had 178 cores from the top of my head, and they wouldn't say what it was for because of the NDA in place. It's touched on within the open day report...

Agree, even the boss say the worst time is October

But still no info about vendor or process?

Err no...think about it!

This sounds like Josh Zerlan months ago, explaining why he could not explain why BFL was missing the delivery dates...

They say standard cell allover their product info sites and publications.

eASIC? they're supposedly working on 28nm chips for ActiveMining as well. Interesting.

The only info I've found is that ORSoC has some deal with eASIC which is more FPGA like than ASIC despite the name.

Perhaps, but I think you keep forgetting that this is a 'formula one' race to the finish line, of which such information, and the precise time of it's arrival, thus being a milestine pinpointing how far the project is progressing, is highly competitor sensitive, albeit interesting for those with vested interests...

ALL the time they give tape-out dates.  Shareholders like this info to keep from bailing on the stock.

Not sure either's been announced. But they have said it's a standard cell ASIC and not a mere FPGA copy-over.

No why would you want to?

Which ASIC vendor and which process?

They're doing a standard cell ASIC, not a mere FPGA copy over. It's not quite full custom, like Bitfury's however, but it's next best thing.

The reason they can pull it off in the time frame they do is because they're able to access Orsoc's existing contractual agreements with the fabs they usually work with rather than starting from scratch like the other ASIC providers so far.

Frankly I'd like to hear it from them when they receive chips, that's going to be a gigantic milestone that will make everyone a lot less nervous, even for people like me that have a lot of trust in their effort. If they don't receive chips in august that's a huge problem for everyone, because that will mean cancelled orders for them and a lot of refunds. They've got a fiduciary responsibility to people whose money they've already received, but they have to balance that against whatever risks of informing their competitors on what they're doing, but I don't really see how that can really hurt them.

No, they will not allow this.

Might be an obvious question, but without hosting by KNC could it still be possible to mine in their pool?