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Quote from: ene1980 on November 19, 2021, 06:00:30 PM

May be if the tournament was conducted in India, i doubt we would see the same results and with they way they are defeating New Zealand with ease, it looks odds because they are the same team with a exclusion of a few players who beat India in the World Cup and now they are finding it difficult to be competitive even though the first match New Zealand delayed their defeat, the fate of the tournament was sealed.

New Zealand is a country of 4 million and right now they are competitive in cricket only because they are able to attract talent from other countries. It's not just South Africans like Devon Conway and Glenn Phillips. Mark Chapman was born in Hong Kong (he's part Chinese) and players like Ish Sodhi and Ajaz Khan are from the sub-continent. And unlike the case with India, when some of their key players like Kyle Jamieson or Lockie Ferguson get injured, they face issues in finding the suitable replacement (as a result of the limited player pool).

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Another dominating match by India and there is nothing much to say as they play like champions but did not perform when they were in the big tournament Grin

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May be if the tournament was conducted in India, i doubt we would see the same results and with they way they are defeating New Zealand with ease, it looks odds because they are the same team with a exclusion of a few players who beat India in the World Cup and now they are finding it difficult to be competitive even though the first match New Zealand delayed their defeat, the fate of the tournament was sealed.

Yeah, that could be a possibility but the way they dominated both the matches is worth mentioning. Another thing is that Virat is not the captain and that might be another reason why India has been playing so well. There can be multiple reasons but if they had performed the same way in the WC then things would have been completely different now.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 19, 2021, 05:51:00 PM

Another dominating match by India and there is nothing much to say as they play like champions but did not perform when they were in the big tournament Grin

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May be if the tournament was conducted in India, i doubt we would see the same results and with they way they are defeating New Zealand with ease, it looks odds because they are the same team with a exclusion of a few players who beat India in the World Cup and now they are finding it difficult to be competitive even though the first match New Zealand delayed their defeat, the fate of the tournament was sealed.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 19, 2021, 01:21:04 PM

India own the PAYtmT20 series. NZ and India played their 2nd match and NZ scored 150 plus. Guptil was on fire and scored 31 out of 15 balls with 2 sixes and 3 fours. Mitchell as well scored 31. However, again today Aswin has really performed well taking 2 main wickets and yes Rahul and Rohit were awesome with their strikes each with their 50s. Rohit was back to back with his 5 Sixes and 1 four and Rahul with 6 fours and 2 sixes lead the team win the series. We have one more match to go and followed by few test matches

Ravichandran Ashwin was not part of the Indian team in the first two matches of the T20 World Cup and India lost those matches without any battle and from the third match Ravichandran Ashwin was part of the team and India did not loose the match after that in the World Cup nor in the matches against New Zealand Cheesy

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Another dominating match by India and there is nothing much to say as they play like champions but did not perform when they were in the big tournament Grin

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 19, 2021, 01:21:04 PM

India own the PAYtmT20 series. We have one more match to go and followed by few test matches

Great to see the Indian team back on fire under Rohit though Williamson's absence is definitely helping them in these matches. However, I wonder if they can defeat NZ in tests successfully.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 19, 2021, 01:41:41 PM

Point to consider is that India only beat BMUDA in 2007 WC and teams like Scotland , Afghanistan in 2021 and yet they consider other good teams to be the average ones.

What the heck are you going on about? Did the Indian team specifically call you and tell you these details? I agree with your opinion about Pakistan performing admirably in recent times, but spreading baseless lies about the Indian team is pointless.

I feel that the Indian team under-performed in the T-20 World Cup due to fatigue caused by IPL 2021.

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Quote from: teosanru on November 19, 2021, 01:10:14 PM

I think you didn't read my post properly, I said that they played "this" bad, which obviously means their performance in this world cup. In both, the tournaments India lost miserably against average teams despite having big names with them. I remember how they skittled against Bangladesh for just 175 runs in 2007.

That's another dilemma which Indian board and whole team need to improve on. By thinking that they are the best and other teams are average wont help them in anyway and they need to face the reality.

In recent time Pakistan was not an average team who defeated them, We remain unbeaten in the pool stage and were the first one to qualify for the semi finals.

Similarly in 2007 world cup, Bangladesh wasn't an average team, they along with the Srilanka in the 'Group B' moved to the super eight stage while leaving India behind out of the tournament.

Point to consider is that India only beat BMUDA in 2007 WC and teams like Scotland , Afghanistan in 2021 and yet they consider other good teams to be the average ones.

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Bangladesh are still quite inconsistent, in some tours they play as if they are the best team in the world and in other series you will see them losing against Scotland and skittling like an associate nation. No doubt that their future is too bright as cricket has properly developed now in Bangladesh, I was surprised to know that Bangladesh's board earns almost equal to Pakistan's Board and their leagues are equally popular. Winning at home is obviously easier for almost all the teams around the world, you can have pitched as per your strength, especially the asian pitches are entirely different from pitches around the world.

Bangladesh cricket board earning is equal to PCB since there is no international cricket in Pakistan and also PSL is played in UAE. Bangladesh has got test status for 20 years but in these 20 years they failed to produce any single quality fast bowler not a batsman. They are in cricket but there performance is far from satisfactory level. The way Bangladesh cricket board is moving I dont think they have bright future.

Oh didn't consider the factor that International cricket is not played there. Getting Test status isn't what gets you the best talent, what gets you good talent is the popularity of the game in your country, only when the kids and youngsters see the game on their televisions, this is what drives talent towards the field. Cricket in Bangladesh got popular only after the Bangladesh Premier league followed by their performances in Asia cups and Bilateral series until 2014-15 they didn't play a lot of test matches. And they do have some legendary bowlers in making like Mustafizur on number 11 in ODI rankings and Mahendi Hasan bowling well too. Even in batting guys like Tamim Iqbal and Mahmuduallah who have performed consistently throughout their careers.

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India own the PAYtmT20 series. NZ and India played their 2nd match and NZ scored 150 plus. Guptil was on fire and scored 31 out of 15 balls with 2 sixes and 3 fours. Mitchell as well scored 31. However, again today Aswin has really performed well taking 2 main wickets and yes Rahul and Rohit were awesome with their strikes each with their 50s. Rohit was back to back with his 5 Sixes and 1 four and Rahul with 6 fours and 2 sixes lead the team win the series. We have one more match to go and followed by few test matches

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Quote from: teosanru on November 19, 2021, 01:10:14 PM

Bangladesh are still quite inconsistent, in some tours they play as if they are the best team in the world and in other series you will see them losing against Scotland and skittling like an associate nation. No doubt that their future is too bright as cricket has properly developed now in Bangladesh, I was surprised to know that Bangladesh's board earns almost equal to Pakistan's Board and their leagues are equally popular. Winning at home is obviously easier for almost all the teams around the world, you can have pitched as per your strength, especially the asian pitches are entirely different from pitches around the world.

Bangladesh cricket board earning is equal to PCB since there is no international cricket in Pakistan and also PSL is played in UAE. Bangladesh has got test status for 20 years but in these 20 years they failed to produce any single quality fast bowler not a batsman. They are in cricket but there performance is far from satisfactory level. The way Bangladesh cricket board is moving I dont think they have bright future.

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Quote from: galambo on November 19, 2021, 11:18:57 AM

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And what about the Malik run out? One thing that Batman does nowadays is 2 point out in which direction they were trying to play the ball and that is one thing even I think is really stupid. Especially when you are out of your crease. But I think overall both teams batting performance was really poor.

But on the other hand we have some good news from this T20. First its good to see Bangladesh team performing well without there key players after a bad T20 WC. Bangladesh team must try to maintain this form in other countries also. Second, Hassan Ali was player of the match thanks to his 3 for 22 spell, it was much needed performance from his after he was criticized for dropping catch in semis of T20 WC.

Bangladesh are still quite inconsistent, in some tours they play as if they are the best team in the world and in other series you will see them losing against Scotland and skittling like an associate nation. No doubt that their future is too bright as cricket has properly developed now in Bangladesh, I was surprised to know that Bangladesh's board earns almost equal to Pakistan's Board and their leagues are equally popular. Winning at home is obviously easier for almost all the teams around the world, you can have pitched as per your strength, especially the asian pitches are entirely different from pitches around the world.

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New Zealand did well, but it was a close game and India sneaked through. The inability of New Zealand batsmen to score runs in the last 2-3 overs probably cost them the match. In the last 3 overs, they just made 14 runs. Normally we would expect 30-40 runs at this stage. The inexperienced Rachin Ravindra wasted a lot of balls, and neither Tim Seifert or Mitchell Santner could get the scoreboard moving. They should have ideally finished at 180-185, but ended up at 164/6. Nice bowling during the depth overs from the Indians - Mohammed Siraj, Deepak Chahar and Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

After seeing yesterday's match I still trying to figure out what went wrong with the Indian team in the T20 world cup. They were supposed to play like this in the world cup too. This was not an easy match but the batters were able to take that kind of pressure and were able to deliver a win. Interesting would be to check whether the Indian team can consistently repeat the same performance.

That is the problem with Indian team they win a lot of bilateral series against each opponent very easily but when it comes to ICC tournament dont know what happens to them.. Just like south africa was in the past same thing is happening to india and they need to figure out how to deal with this as next t20 world cup is not far away right now

Hahah are you kidding me? India has won 1 world cup, 1 champions trophy, 1 world T20 and numerous Asia cups in last 15 years. Which means out of 12 icc tournaments of last 15 years India has won 3, I don't know which team has performance equivalent to this. I think last time India performed this bad in an ICC tournament was world cup 2007. I don't know which icc tournaments are you watching.

Apart from 2007 World cup, they have also failed in 2021 T20 World Cup and lost to Pakistan and that too by 10 wickets .
I think you forget to mention it.

I think you didn't read my post properly, I said that they played "this" bad, which obviously means their performance in this world cup. In both, the tournaments India lost miserably against average teams despite having big names with them. I remember how they skittled against Bangladesh for just 175 runs in 2007.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 19, 2021, 12:50:53 PM

Apart from 2007 World cup, they have also failed in 2021 T20 World Cup and lost to Pakistan and that too by 10 wickets .
I think you forget to mention it.

Just before 24 Oct Match scenes on Indian media were hilarious, cant believe that players like Sehwag and Harbhajan are that much non-sense. Same happened with them before champions trophy match in 2017 but they didn't learned anything.

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Bangladesh is one of those teams who mostly performs well in their home ground. The other team which have same habit of winning only at home is India.

Most of there legend batsman ( I don't wanna name anyone) have excellent batting record at home pitches while they fail to perform when it comes to playing outside there country. In few months they will forget everything and start cheering for IPL.

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New Zealand did well, but it was a close game and India sneaked through. The inability of New Zealand batsmen to score runs in the last 2-3 overs probably cost them the match. In the last 3 overs, they just made 14 runs. Normally we would expect 30-40 runs at this stage. The inexperienced Rachin Ravindra wasted a lot of balls, and neither Tim Seifert or Mitchell Santner could get the scoreboard moving. They should have ideally finished at 180-185, but ended up at 164/6. Nice bowling during the depth overs from the Indians - Mohammed Siraj, Deepak Chahar and Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

After seeing yesterday's match I still trying to figure out what went wrong with the Indian team in the T20 world cup. They were supposed to play like this in the world cup too. This was not an easy match but the batters were able to take that kind of pressure and were able to deliver a win. Interesting would be to check whether the Indian team can consistently repeat the same performance.

That is the problem with Indian team they win a lot of bilateral series against each opponent very easily but when it comes to ICC tournament dont know what happens to them.. Just like south africa was in the past same thing is happening to india and they need to figure out how to deal with this as next t20 world cup is not far away right now

Hahah are you kidding me? India has won 1 world cup, 1 champions trophy, 1 world T20 and numerous Asia cups in last 15 years. Which means out of 12 icc tournaments of last 15 years India has won 3, I don't know which team has performance equivalent to this. I think last time India performed this bad in an ICC tournament was world cup 2007. I don't know which icc tournaments are you watching.

Apart from 2007 World cup, they have also failed in 2021 T20 World Cup and lost to Pakistan and that too by 10 wickets .
I think you forget to mention it.

Quote from: galambo on November 19, 2021, 11:18:57 AM

But on the other hand we have some good news from this T20. First its good to see Bangladesh team performing well without there key players after a bad T20 WC. Bangladesh team must try to maintain this form in other countries also. Second, Hassan Ali was player of the match thanks to his 3 for 22 spell, it was much needed performance from his after he was criticized for dropping catch in semis of T20 WC.

Bangladesh is one of those teams who mostly performs well in their home ground. The other team which have same habit of winning only at home is India.

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Quote from: kro55 on November 19, 2021, 11:04:24 AM

And what about the Malik run out? One thing that Batman does nowadays is 2 point out in which direction they were trying to play the ball and that is one thing even I think is really stupid. Especially when you are out of your crease. But I think overall both teams batting performance was really poor.

But on the other hand we have some good news from this T20. First its good to see Bangladesh team performing well without there key players after a bad T20 WC. Bangladesh team must try to maintain this form in other countries also. Second, Hassan Ali was player of the match thanks to his 3 for 22 spell, it was much needed performance from his after he was criticized for dropping catch in semis of T20 WC.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 19, 2021, 06:40:21 AM

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Anyone watching the T20 match between Bangladesh and Pakistan ? Bangladesh have made only 128 runs but still they are in a winning position as Pakistan have lost four wickets at 24 runs only. What a turn around performance by Bangladesh team who were not able to perform well in the T20 world cup.

Yes, i am watching this match and Pakistan have won the match in the final over. I am not at all impressed by their batting performance. They should have won this match in a much easier way but poor display of batting from the top order took the match in the last over. They need to be careful in future matches otherwise they could lose one or two matches in the series.

And what about the Malik run out? One thing that Batman does nowadays is 2 point out in which direction they were trying to play the ball and that is one thing even I think is really stupid. Especially when you are out of your crease. But I think overall both teams batting performance was really poor.

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New Zealand did well, but it was a close game and India sneaked through. The inability of New Zealand batsmen to score runs in the last 2-3 overs probably cost them the match. In the last 3 overs, they just made 14 runs. Normally we would expect 30-40 runs at this stage. The inexperienced Rachin Ravindra wasted a lot of balls, and neither Tim Seifert or Mitchell Santner could get the scoreboard moving. They should have ideally finished at 180-185, but ended up at 164/6. Nice bowling during the depth overs from the Indians - Mohammed Siraj, Deepak Chahar and Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

After seeing yesterday's match I still trying to figure out what went wrong with the Indian team in the T20 world cup. They were supposed to play like this in the world cup too. This was not an easy match but the batters were able to take that kind of pressure and were able to deliver a win. Interesting would be to check whether the Indian team can consistently repeat the same performance.

That is the problem with Indian team they win a lot of bilateral series against each opponent very easily but when it comes to ICC tournament dont know what happens to them.. Just like south africa was in the past same thing is happening to india and they need to figure out how to deal with this as next t20 world cup is not far away right now

Hahah are you kidding me? India has won 1 world cup, 1 champions trophy, 1 world T20 and numerous Asia cups in last 15 years. Which means out of 12 icc tournaments of last 15 years India has won 3, I don't know which team has performance equivalent to this. I think last time India performed this bad in an ICC tournament was world cup 2007. I don't know which icc tournaments are you watching.

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New Zealand did well, but it was a close game and India sneaked through. The inability of New Zealand batsmen to score runs in the last 2-3 overs probably cost them the match. In the last 3 overs, they just made 14 runs. Normally we would expect 30-40 runs at this stage. The inexperienced Rachin Ravindra wasted a lot of balls, and neither Tim Seifert or Mitchell Santner could get the scoreboard moving. They should have ideally finished at 180-185, but ended up at 164/6. Nice bowling during the depth overs from the Indians - Mohammed Siraj, Deepak Chahar and Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

After seeing yesterday's match I still trying to figure out what went wrong with the Indian team in the T20 world cup. They were supposed to play like this in the world cup too. This was not an easy match but the batters were able to take that kind of pressure and were able to deliver a win. Interesting would be to check whether the Indian team can consistently repeat the same performance.

That is the problem with Indian team they win a lot of bilateral series against each opponent very easily but when it comes to ICC tournament dont know what happens to them.. Just like south africa was in the past same thing is happening to india and they need to figure out how to deal with this as next t20 world cup is not far away right now

This is wrong to say that India does not perform well in ICC tournaments. We need to remember that they are the winners of the ICC t20 world cup also in the past.
By the way, who will be hosting the next t20 world cup ?

Australia is going to host the next worldcup T20 in 2022.

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Yes, i am watching this match and Pakistan have won the match in the final over. I am not at all impressed by their batting performance. They should have won this match in a much easier way but poor display of batting from the top order took the match in the last over. They need to be careful in future matches otherwise they could lose one or two matches in the series.

The pitch was a bit helpful for the bowlers. As a result, Pakistan struggled to chase the target. Eventually they have won the game with some powerful hits. Bangladeshi bowlers has done well with slower delivery, but they couldn't bowl perfectly in the death overs. Bangladesh also scored much in the death overs. I was thinking that they won't be able to score above 100 runs. The top order batsman of both teams has performed badly today.

Pakistan sealed the game at death over after Shadab Khan and Mohammad Nawaz put on an impressive performance. I'm pleased to see that Pakistan's batting has depth and that the bench strength is developing. Mirpur pitch typically has good bowling conditions and is not ideal for batters. I thought Pakistan could have won the match early, but Bangladesh fought hard nonetheless. This is Bangladesh's sixth consecutive defeat in T20Is.

^ I think Bangladeshi bowlers did really well throughout the second innings but I have two questions.
1. What were the Batsmen of Bangladesh doing?
2. Why you are playing Aminul if you are not going to let him bowl?

The match was still alive in the end just because the Bangladeshi bowlers were really good.

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Quote from: kingangel on November 19, 2021, 09:12:40 AM

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 17, 2021, 10:43:45 PM

New Zealand did well, but it was a close game and India sneaked through. The inability of New Zealand batsmen to score runs in the last 2-3 overs probably cost them the match. In the last 3 overs, they just made 14 runs. Normally we would expect 30-40 runs at this stage. The inexperienced Rachin Ravindra wasted a lot of balls, and neither Tim Seifert or Mitchell Santner could get the scoreboard moving. They should have ideally finished at 180-185, but ended up at 164/6. Nice bowling during the depth overs from the Indians - Mohammed Siraj, Deepak Chahar and Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

After seeing yesterday's match I still trying to figure out what went wrong with the Indian team in the T20 world cup. They were supposed to play like this in the world cup too. This was not an easy match but the batters were able to take that kind of pressure and were able to deliver a win. Interesting would be to check whether the Indian team can consistently repeat the same performance.

That is the problem with Indian team they win a lot of bilateral series against each opponent very easily but when it comes to ICC tournament dont know what happens to them.. Just like south africa was in the past same thing is happening to india and they need to figure out how to deal with this as next t20 world cup is not far away right now

This is wrong to say that India does not perform well in ICC tournaments. We need to remember that they are the winners of the ICC t20 world cup also in the past.
By the way, who will be hosting the next t20 world cup ?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 17, 2021, 10:43:45 PM

New Zealand did well, but it was a close game and India sneaked through. The inability of New Zealand batsmen to score runs in the last 2-3 overs probably cost them the match. In the last 3 overs, they just made 14 runs. Normally we would expect 30-40 runs at this stage. The inexperienced Rachin Ravindra wasted a lot of balls, and neither Tim Seifert or Mitchell Santner could get the scoreboard moving. They should have ideally finished at 180-185, but ended up at 164/6. Nice bowling during the depth overs from the Indians - Mohammed Siraj, Deepak Chahar and Bhuvneshwar Kumar.

After seeing yesterday's match I still trying to figure out what went wrong with the Indian team in the T20 world cup. They were supposed to play like this in the world cup too. This was not an easy match but the batters were able to take that kind of pressure and were able to deliver a win. Interesting would be to check whether the Indian team can consistently repeat the same performance.

That is the problem with Indian team they win a lot of bilateral series against each opponent very easily but when it comes to ICC tournament dont know what happens to them.. Just like south africa was in the past same thing is happening to india and they need to figure out how to deal with this as next t20 world cup is not far away right now

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BCCI does have a big impact on ICC decisions, but I have no idea why some of you are automatically assuming that BCCI is discouraging different boards to stop touring Pakistan.
For example, NZ decided to not tour Pakistan because of a security threat while ECB decided to do the same for similar reasons. Blaming the BCCI without any sort of proof is silly in my opinion.

This all is mentality of subcontinent politics because here we all have just one thing common it's hate which is now developing very quickly in next generation just because of social media and some hypocrisy which is creating by few western countries and local politicians for their own sack one thing is also sure these both countries are going to end with fire because it's predicted by few well known peoples long time ago.
Recently New Zealand and England cancellation have some bad impact on cricket, but we have to face these things now because it's all going to be happened in future as well.

Actually, the subcontinent has only improved in infrastructure but the people's narrow mind has never improved or widened. And I know this is a lot of people trying to show that he's better than the others and that is where people are doing wrong. And in cricket, there are some bad politics always going on. And there is also the money issue.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 19, 2021, 06:56:14 AM

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Yes, i am watching this match and Pakistan have won the match in the final over. I am not at all impressed by their batting performance. They should have won this match in a much easier way but poor display of batting from the top order took the match in the last over. They need to be careful in future matches otherwise they could lose one or two matches in the series.

The pitch was a bit helpful for the bowlers. As a result, Pakistan struggled to chase the target. Eventually they have won the game with some powerful hits. Bangladeshi bowlers has done well with slower delivery, but they couldn't bowl perfectly in the death overs. Bangladesh also scored much in the death overs. I was thinking that they won't be able to score above 100 runs. The top order batsman of both teams has performed badly today.

Pakistan sealed the game at death over after Shadab Khan and Mohammad Nawaz put on an impressive performance. I'm pleased to see that Pakistan's batting has depth and that the bench strength is developing. Mirpur pitch typically has good bowling conditions and is not ideal for batters. I thought Pakistan could have won the match early, but Bangladesh fought hard nonetheless. This is Bangladesh's sixth consecutive defeat in T20Is.

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